I just handled a Sony RX-100 & not happy. :(

I was looking forward to handling the new RX-100. Well today I visited a camera store and held an RX-100 in my hands.

Do companies actually get photographers to handle the prototypes before they go into production. The front of the camera where your fingers grip the camera is as slippery as any surface I have felt, how about at least a little bit of texture or rubber. No wonder that company is selling the extra grip to stick onto the front of the camera.

I don't have big hands but it is just too small to handle comfortably.

Sorry to be a downer but I was really looking forward to this camera to replace my old Panasonic TZ-7. So I would advise anyone to actually handle the camera before you decide to buy it.
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Get Richard's grip. Problem solved.

Guess you don't have a cell phone either? They're kind of small and slippery too.
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relate2 said:

I was looking forward to handling the new RX-100. Well today I visited a camera store and held an RX-100 in my hands.

Do companies actually get photographers to handle the prototypes before they go into production. The front of the camera where your fingers grip the camera is as slippery as any surface I have felt, how about at least a little bit of texture or rubber. No wonder that company is selling the extra grip to stick onto the front of the camera.

I don't have big hands but it is just too small to handle comfortably.

Sorry to be a downer but I was really looking forward to this camera to replace my old Panasonic TZ-7. So I would advise anyone to actually handle the camera before you decide to buy it.
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Relate2 advise is good, why the snide comments?

One should always try and have camera in hand to get a feel befor buying, if you do not have the option to return or be able to return without cost.

I want to like the camera and will consider buying, but for the price, I'm going to hold one befor commiting.

It's really OK. not to like the Sony, you like it, somone else does not, whats the big deal? have seen befor if somone says somting thats not glowing about a camera, some get bent out of shape, no need for that.

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actually, in recent years a lot of cell phones have featured a rubberized back. i think because people were complaining about slippery materials. it's never been a problem for me though, and i haven't ever been able to relate to complaints about the canon s90 or any other camera being too slippery. a lot of people have issues with this though.

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Guess you don't have a cell phone either? They're kind of small and slippery too.
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Agreed, if one is very carfull and not taking pictures with wet hands. Have the S90 and elected to get the grip, not so much because I was scared of dropping, but simply made it easer to hold one handed.

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The RX100 is not a replacement of the Pana TZ-7. That would be the Sony HX20V (a x20 zoom.)

The RX100 is a replacement for the Pana LX5 or LX7 (the point is that the Sony RX100 has a sensor much larger than the LX5/7.)

The HX20V has a rubber grip area in the front you would like.

relate2 said:

I was looking forward to handling the new RX-100. Well today I visited a camera store and held an RX-100 in my hands.

Do companies actually get photographers to handle the prototypes before they go into production. The front of the camera where your fingers grip the camera is as slippery as any surface I have felt, how about at least a little bit of texture or rubber. No wonder that company is selling the extra grip to stick onto the front of the camera.

I don't have big hands but it is just too small to handle comfortably.

Sorry to be a downer but I was really looking forward to this camera to replace my old Panasonic TZ-7. So I would advise anyone to actually handle the camera before you decide to buy it.
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photo perzon said:

The RX100 is not a replacement of the Pana TZ-7. That would be the Sony HX20V (a x20 zoom.)

The RX100 is a replacement for the Pana LX5 or LX7 (the point is that the Sony RX100 has a sensor much larger than the LX5/7.)

The HX20V has a rubber grip area in the front you would like.

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Yes I handled a HX20V and did not like the feel of it in my hand. Although the LX5 felt great in my hands. The LX5 felt perfect, all the buttons etc just fell into place for my hand, but I then heard about the NEX-5 and bought that instead.

I then upgraded to the NEX-7 which I really love, the quality of the photos are amazing and finally I found a camera that I can mold to the way I want to shoot photos not mold myself to the way the camera wants to take photos.

I still carry around my TZ-7 as a carry everywhere camera but the quality of the photos are now a couple of generations old and after seeing what 24mp's can do on my NEX-7 the 20mp's on the RX-100 looked very enticing.

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I don't find it hard to handle at all.

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You're kidding right?

This camera is ROCKING the market. I read most people loving the camera and the outstanding design and performance. I have the camera too and have no problems holding it. I can even hold my glass of OJ in the morning without dropping it, so maybe I'm gifted.

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I have no problem with the quality of the photos, in-fact some of the photos I have seen rival my NEX-7. It just doesn't work for me to pay so much money, it is very expensive for a small camera and be so uncomfortable holding the camera.

For the people who have the camera what is the purpose of having zoom on the lens and rocker switch around the shutter button?

I tried the zoom ring on the lens and it felt very awkward to go from wide angle to full zoom. It was very slow and required many turns of the ring.
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I think a Canon G1X is just the camera for you..

relate2 said:

4score said:

You're kidding right?

This camera is ROCKING the market. I read most people loving the camera and the outstanding design and performance. I have the camera too and have no problems holding it. I can even hold my glass of OJ in the morning without dropping it, so maybe I'm gifted.

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I have no problem with the quality of the photos, in-fact some of the photos I have seen rival my NEX-7. It just doesn't work for me to pay so much money, it is very expensive for a small camera and be so uncomfortable holding the camera.

For the people who have the camera what is the purpose of having zoom on the lens and rocker switch around the shutter button?

I tried the zoom ring on the lens and it felt very awkward to go from wide angle to full zoom. It was very slow and required many turns of the ring.

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Neverf have used the ring as a zoom even on the Canon S90 and S95...The Ring is best used for Focus Peaking...

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It just doesn't work for me to pay so much money, it is very expensive for a small camera and be so uncomfortable holding the camera.

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But the image quality of the RX100 is infinitely better than from your NEX. With the former, you will get a good photo. With the latter, you will get no photo because it is sitting at home. So, it is not expensive at all given the huge IQ difference

I did a lot of research before I bought my XR100 and on buying it, it has delivered more in functionality and output than I expected - I say this simply because sometimes you can be surprised by pushing beyond first impressions. If there were a big selection of cameras of this particular type, it might be easier to consider design as the 'absolute' reason for not buying, but at the moment the XR100 is the only kid on the block that does what it does - though no doubt others will follow.

I have large hands and find the camera small (coming from a background of bigger cameras) but quite usable and as portability is what I really want, I accept the aesthetic limits of the design and in fact celebrate having the most portable but best quality camera that I have ever owned. I think better designs will come but at the moment the design does not impede my ability to use the camera or my enjoyment of it.

I found the Nikon 1 series had similar handling issues but the V1 had a mental half rounded bar down the grip side and just this addition made it easier to hold than the smoother (and smaller it must be said) J1.

To the OP I would say, if you have to have an exceptional portable camera NOW - go and buy this XR100 now and either put the grip issue out of you mind or buy one of the grip solutions - If you can wait perhaps a year, then perhaps the XR200 will move towards what you would like most or other manufacturers will have introduced a similar model.

My local store can't get hold of them at the moment, as they are just flying out of the company but they do have plenty of other models in stock, which rather tells its own tal.

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Tip: maybe you should have taken some pictures with it instead ofall that "handling"

He didn't ask for your "tips", keep best of all for yourself.

Seems some guys are a getting a bit defensive here. Calm down people, the OP wasn't rude or insulting in the slightest — he simply made an observation and advised others to try the camera out before investing in it.

I actually agree. I own a HX20V, and thought I'd try out an RX100 to see how much its image quality oversteps it. I was of course satisfied with the RX100's performance, but I did notice that despite being almost exactly the same size as my HX20V the lack of grip made it a little harder to hold, particularly with one hand.

Adding a grip to the camera would, like on the HX20V, cause no extra bulk because the grip doesn't protrude any further out than the closed lens. So it was an aesthetic decision, and while it makes the camera look great it also has the trade-off of reducing ergonomics a little. It doesn't make the camera hard to hold, but it definitely makes it less secure in the hand than having the grip.

Not that this would make or break anything for me, it's something I could solve with an after-market grip. Might as well be open about these things though, no?

I had the opportunity to handle the RX100 only once and I also had an unpleasant feeling due to the lack of grip. I ordered it anyway just because I realized it is the best P&S camera in terms of image quality. Probably Sony decided to give the camera a clean and minimalist design. It's a pity that, considering the price of this jewel, they did not include a free accessory grip.
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relate2 said:

I was looking forward to handling the new RX-100. Well today I visited a camera store and held an RX-100 in my hands.

Do companies actually get photographers to handle the prototypes before they go into production. The front of the camera where your fingers grip the camera is as slippery as any surface I have felt, how about at least a little bit of texture or rubber. No wonder that company is selling the extra grip to stick onto the front of the camera.

I don't have big hands but it is just too small to handle comfortably.

Sorry to be a downer but I was really looking forward to this camera to replace my old Panasonic TZ-7. So I would advise anyone to actually handle the camera before you decide to buy it.

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When I first got my RX100 online I too didn't like the handling and thought it was too small but since I wanted this as a carry everywhere pocketable camera to go with my DSLRs I was determined to stick with it. Now after using it for 4 days I've gotten used to it and think it handles just fine. In fact ergonomically I'm liking it more every day. Cameras like the TZ-7 have such poor IQ and focus so slow in poor light compared to a DSLR that I could never be satisfied with one. The RX100 holds up quite well in comparison.
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