...except that Apple does not have it's own foundries and manufacturing facilities. They buy their parts from Samsung and Sony (the iPhone4s guts are all samsung, except the camera which is sony) and it's assembled by Foxconn in china.
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SONY Rising: Slowly but surely...
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Lucas_
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Agreed! Since the launch of the A700 and A900 I was convinced that Sony would relentlessly be rising in the camera market as a strong competitor. The bold move to SLT and EVF ( A55 ) and NEX APS-C mirrorless, folllowed right after by the amazing A77 OLED EVF were the confirmation of a solid growth based on the most advanced technology.
As I've been saying all along, it's just a matter of time. Relentlessly.
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Agreed! Since the launch of the A700 and A900 I was convinced that Sony would relentlessly be rising in the camera market as a strong competitor. The bold move to SLT and EVF ( A55 ) and NEX APS-C mirrorless, folllowed right after by the amazing A77 OLED EVF were the confirmation of a solid growth based on the most advanced technology.
As I've been saying all along, it's just a matter of time. Relentlessly.
... Lucas
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Always having fun with photography ...
http://www.lucaspix.smugmug.com/
Tom2572
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My take is that Sony is gaining market share against Canon and Nikon because of innovation and not being afraid of alienating the base, and the mirrorless lineups of the three companies are a clear giveaway of what's going on. Canon and Nikon are so afraid of alienating their base SLR customers that they built clearly dumb-ed down cameras in the EOS M and V1/J1 respectively, whereas Sony didn't give a second thought to releasing the NEX-7 which is arguably as good as the A77 in many respects.
EVF is innovation and, like it or not, it's the future for all but the most die hard OVF lovers (nothing against that btw, just making an argument), and guaranteed that Canon and Nikon wouldn't dream of building an EVF full frame at this point. On the other hand, Sony knows they'll lose some customers with an SLT FF camera, but guess what, they don't give a flip. They are innovating.
Does anyone see a correlation here? Let me put it another way. Back in the 70s and 80s Detroit was so paralyzed over the fact that US consumers wanted big cars that they wouldn't dream of building a compact car while smaller players like Datsun and Toyota knew the future was smaller cars.
Ask anyone in Detroit how the "too paralyzed to risk alienating the base" strategy worked out for them.
Hmm, sony just lost $5,000,000,000 (billion in case you can't tell) in a very recent if not the last reporting quarter. Hard for a company to assault when they have problems within the company.
Sony is the anti-Apple. 2 companies could not be more different. really.
Sony hasn't made much in-roads in the 6 years since they bought Minolta Camera. What will 10 more years help them? They've done a lot better than Samsung with their attempt at getting into the high end removeable lens camera business.
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cyainparadise
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He was talking about the Apple QuickTake digital camera, which was one of the first consumer digital cameras. In the link below, it says that Times magazine called it "the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list."
The cameras were sold from 1994 -1997. However, the cameras were made by Kodak and Fujifilm.
‘the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list.
There has been recent rumors of Apple having discussions with Lytro, and has led to speculations that Apple will again sell cameras.
The cameras were sold from 1994 -1997. However, the cameras were made by Kodak and Fujifilm.
‘the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list.
There has been recent rumors of Apple having discussions with Lytro, and has led to speculations that Apple will again sell cameras.
theswede #100093
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They already do. The iPhone 4S is one of the best pocket digital cameras its owners have with them whenever they have their phone with them.
It's likely (but still a rumor) that the next iPod Touch will also have a very good camera.
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Interesting comparison.
I Would like to know if the SLT line has been successful.
And what about nex line ?
(when it does come to nex line I do not like the sony lenses )
The RX100 has been a success.
Last year I bought a sony A500 and I am not yet convinced that the nex / slt line has better image than the A500.
On the contrary : I am angry with Sony because it did drop the DSLR line just shortly after I bought my first DSLR.
sorry this is a late response, I actually worked(Like 1 week ago) in the Digital imaging section in Best Buy for a few months. The sony a57 along with the 5100 Nikon and t3i where some of my best sellers. Just throwing it out there that not all best buys neglect the sonys!
Karl Scharf
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Are you forgetting that Sony seamlessly took over Konica/Minolta with Minolta having been an innovative camera manufacturer for many years? I do agree with you however that Sony is moving up the ladder and also like the direction it is taking. It will still be a long time before Sony surpasses Canon and Nikon in my opinion.
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And I don't see anything to get excited about. I'd much rather have the a57 I own or an a65, and they both cost less to boot! And when comparing how slow the Canon focuses in live-view, only mirrorless cams were mentioned (as being better) but not Sony's SLT cams which are superior. Found that kind of odd.
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