I'm not sure where you, and some of the other commentators in this thread, are coming from. The Canon specs and target market (read the announcement) are much more in line with the Panasonic GF5 or Olympus EPM1 than the GX1 or the G5. This camera has nothing like the functionality of either. No EVF, or ability to add one, only a few manual controls. At launch it will only be able to take one or two lenses without an adaptor. It doesn't have fast AF. Yet it is more expensive than any of these m43 cameras. I doubt very much that many m43 users will abandon the system for the EOS-M, why would they? Some will of course buy one to supplement their other gear, especially if they have a collection of Canon lenses.
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Current thoughts on the Canon EOS-M
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those are my "current thoughts" on the mirror-less Canon.... in addition, Ef or Efs lenses have to be used with an adaptor... Canon is so far behind the technology (read µ4/3, Sony NEX, etc.) and is literally forced to enter the market after many previous stupid press releases about how they weren't going that direction.
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ericN2
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Having been on these Forums for a very long time I have continually seen quite enough posts from different people who are clearly in what might be caled the "early experienced uers" who very clearly have photographic desires but who simply do not fully understand the differences in what ARE a bit complexing variety of cameras these days..many I'm quite sure, seem to think from their actions anyway, that buying a certain camera by its name or other vague reason, should ensure that they are then "photographers". It is a fact.. many buy cameras NOT because they KNOW or fully understand them (or indeed their failings...) but because it seems OK to them.
Anyone can say what they like, but a lot of cameras are bought by a lot less experienced users.. and THEY are likely to buy partly on such as name and/or looks...and/or what it SEEMS the camera will do for them.
There are ALWAYS new users in this field.. and whether WE may like a camera or not.. it does not change the fact that a new type camera from a well-known source, IS likely to attract buyers of a kind... buyers who MIGHT have gone another way ..THAT is what retailing is based on , in many ways.. !!
We all buy thngs that may well be subject to some faults if we cared to delve into it enough.. frankly the comparative few 'experienced users' who tend to frequent any Forums such as this make up a VERY small part of the total buyers in the camera market...so whatever "experienced" thoughts may be expressed on such a topic as this.. make very little dfference to what happens overall in a market.
There is room for all kinds of buyers..and it is no use trying to change that ...
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eric
Staffordshire, UK
I quite agree in many respects..the EOS-M will NOT likely make many USERS of the M4/3 system just abandon their gear and buy the EOS-M... I never thought that for one moment.... what it CAN do... and probably will in at least some few numbers.. quite possibly be an attraction or certainly an alternative to making that first decision of some, to go for this one instead of the M4/3 cameras. I'm not sure that the M4/3 market is altogether benefitting from a lot of continuing comment about deficiencies of one kind or other in certain cameras or models in the existing M4/3 line.
Having been on these Forums for a very long time I have continually seen quite enough posts from different people who are clearly in what might be caled the "early experienced uers" who very clearly have photographic desires but who simply do not fully understand the differences in what ARE a bit complexing variety of cameras these days..many I'm quite sure, seem to think from their actions anyway, that buying a certain camera by its name or other vague reason, should ensure that they are then "photographers". It is a fact.. many buy cameras NOT because they KNOW or fully understand them (or indeed their failings...) but because it seems OK to them.
Anyone can say what they like, but a lot of cameras are bought by a lot less experienced users.. and THEY are likely to buy partly on such as name and/or looks...and/or what it SEEMS the camera will do for them.
There are ALWAYS new users in this field.. and whether WE may like a camera or not.. it does not change the fact that a new type camera from a well-known source, IS likely to attract buyers of a kind... buyers who MIGHT have gone another way ..THAT is what retailing is based on , in many ways.. !!
We all buy thngs that may well be subject to some faults if we cared to delve into it enough.. frankly the comparative few 'experienced users' who tend to frequent any Forums such as this make up a VERY small part of the total buyers in the camera market...so whatever "experienced" thoughts may be expressed on such a topic as this.. make very little dfference to what happens overall in a market.
There is room for all kinds of buyers..and it is no use trying to change that ...
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eric
Staffordshire, UK
Tim F 101
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Cannot see a single reason would I would pay a lot more to downgrade from the functionality of my current camera and buy into a system with no lens map. We already know that Canon will never release a more functional body because (1) it would cost god only knows how much, and (2) their DSLR division runs the show. This is why Nikon's mirrorless sucks eggs. No way they will cannibalize sales from their cash cow.
The EOS-M kit makes no damn sense for point-n-shoot upgraders. It costs too much and you can't even get the zoom in a kit. It makes even less sense for micro four thirds owners to switch, for the above reason. Our lensmap is great and our cameras work better.
There is one (1) constituency who should think about buying an EOS-M. If you have an EOS body and a bunch of expensive EF lenses, then the EOS-M / 20mm kit makes perfect sense. You have a mini body with a mini lens that takes full advantage of its size benefit, and you can still use any of your existing glass. No need to buy a normal zoom because you should already have one.
The EOS-M is a tourniquet to stem the flood of EF-format gear that micro four thirds (and NEX) adopters have been dumping on the used market. This way Canon users can have their stupid mirrorless body and keep their lenses at home, where they won't depress the sales of new gear.
The EOS-M kit makes no damn sense for point-n-shoot upgraders. It costs too much and you can't even get the zoom in a kit. It makes even less sense for micro four thirds owners to switch, for the above reason. Our lensmap is great and our cameras work better.
There is one (1) constituency who should think about buying an EOS-M. If you have an EOS body and a bunch of expensive EF lenses, then the EOS-M / 20mm kit makes perfect sense. You have a mini body with a mini lens that takes full advantage of its size benefit, and you can still use any of your existing glass. No need to buy a normal zoom because you should already have one.
The EOS-M is a tourniquet to stem the flood of EF-format gear that micro four thirds (and NEX) adopters have been dumping on the used market. This way Canon users can have their stupid mirrorless body and keep their lenses at home, where they won't depress the sales of new gear.
Olymore
Senior Member
Even if Canon were to improve aspects like focussing speed the only (limited advantage would uld be to people who own Canon lenses.
The best M43 sensors are as good as the current Canon APSC sensors, the M43 lenses will generally be smaller and M43 now has (or arriving soon) a range of cameras to suit all levels of photographers.
I fail to understand why it should interest most people here.
The best M43 sensors are as good as the current Canon APSC sensors, the M43 lenses will generally be smaller and M43 now has (or arriving soon) a range of cameras to suit all levels of photographers.
I fail to understand why it should interest most people here.
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