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Especially the first one is too close to porn. I'm missing some artsy stuff. Looks more like what you can see on an average porn site.

No offense just my opinion.
 
Jessica is great, and I agree with what you say about her confidence.

In the second I don't like seeing part of the tattoo. If you can't show enough to make sense of it better to cover it all, in my opinion.

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Hello friend,

I will definitely disagree with your calling it porn. It's not porn but Glamour Nude. It's what you would see in Playboy/Perfect10/Rockstar and so on. Porn is digital penetration. I never claimed it to be art. The title of my blog is "Glamour by Jay" I'm a glamour photographer.

Hope that clears it up some.
gl2k said:
Especially the first one is too close to porn. I'm missing some artsy stuff. Looks more like what you can see on an average porn site.

No offense just my opinion.
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Cheers,
Jay Kilgore
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Jay Kilgore said:
Hello friend,

I will definitely disagree with your calling it porn. It's not porn but Glamour Nude. It's what you would see in Playboy/Perfect10/Rockstar and so on. Porn is digital penetration. I never claimed it to be art. The title of my blog is "Glamour by Jay" I'm a glamour photographer.

Hope that clears it up some.
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The pictures are too unattractive to be glamorous, I'm afraid.

The lighting is pedestrian.
The posing is ugly...
... and the girl isn't so great, either.
Moreover, cretinous tattoos will never "improve" any body.

But hey, if you think the result is glamorous ... who am I to comment? Enjoy, Jay. Enjoy! :-)
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Baz

"Ahh... But the thing is, they were not just ORDINARY time travellers!"
 
Oh I would strongly disagree with everything you said with the exception of your last line! But that's the beauty of it all!

Thanks for looking!
Barrie Davis said:
Jay Kilgore said:
Hello friend,

I will definitely disagree with your calling it porn. It's not porn but Glamour Nude. It's what you would see in Playboy/Perfect10/Rockstar and so on. Porn is digital penetration. I never claimed it to be art. The title of my blog is "Glamour by Jay" I'm a glamour photographer.

Hope that clears it up some.
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The pictures are too unattractive to be glamorous, I'm afraid.

The lighting is pedestrian.
The posing is ugly...
... and the girl isn't so great, either.
Moreover, cretinous tattoos will never "improve" any body.

But hey, if you think the result is glamorous ... who am I to comment? Enjoy, Jay. Enjoy! :-)
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Regards,
Baz

"Ahh... But the thing is, they were not just ORDINARY time travellers!"
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Cheers,
Jay Kilgore
http://www.jaykilgore.com
 
The poor girl is quite beefy, the breasts are sagging, the nipples depressed and it looks like there is quite a bit of razor burn in an unfortunate area, which makes that particular exercise rather pointless........

She will do it, but confidence is not to be confused with style, and I'm not sure she even has much of the former.

gl2k was right.
Jay Kilgore said:
It's what you would see in Playboy
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LOL

OK friend. Normally I get quite defensive when people attack my clients but you're just not worth it so I'll let it slide.
nickoly said:
The poor girl is quite beefy, the breasts are sagging, the nipples depressed and it looks like there is quite a bit of razor burn in an unfortunate area, which makes that particular exercise rather pointless........

She will do it, but confidence is not to be confused with style, and I'm not sure she even has much of the former.

gl2k was right.
Jay Kilgore said:
It's what you would see in Playboy
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Jay Kilgore
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Hi Jay.

I enjoy your other work and you have some great shots on your site.

IMHO your choice of strong telephoto might have made her too orthographic in this pose.

Being quite solid, maybe she'd benefit from 70mm or less if she doesn't have a big nose? Posed differently?

Cheers
 
Jay Kilgore said:
It's not porn but Glamour Nude. It's what you would see in Playboy/Perfect10/Rockstar and so on. Porn is digital penetration. I never claimed it to be art. The title of my blog is "Glamour by Jay" I'm a glamour photographer.
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I agree, it's not porn. It certainly is nude. But, I'm just not seeing any glamour here. She just looks like an overweight bottle blonde. In the first image, she's sucking in her gut, just like I do when someone takes a photo of me. In the second, the rather large rump id dominating the image.

Jay, I like much of your work, and your technique certainly is beyond reproach. But, I'm just not seeing anything about these two particular photos that's flattering. Maybe I'm looking for more sculpting with light and shadow instead of the bright, even lighting. I'm not sure, but these two just don't do it for me.
 
Wow that was a eye opener, was not ready for that one. But I fail to see the Glamour side of what you are trying to accomplish here. No offence just my opinion.
 
Thanks for posting these.

I'm assuming you are posting for C&C and not just some internet forum back patting.

The processing is interesting but feels harsh and cold.

The first shot, you've chopped off her legs, scalp and one elbow. It's kind of like "LOOK AT HER NUDE TORSO"

The second shot, I feel, is better but it still looks awkward. I do like the lighting, but its still a bit cold.

However, without people posting examples of their work this forum would be pretty boring, so I do appreciate you having the guts to put your work on display. I've also noticed some of your previous work to be of higher quality than this so I know what you're capable of.

Cheers
Andrew
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Barrie Davis said:
The lighting is pedestrian.
The posing is ugly...
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Fair Comments
Barrie Davis said:
... and the girl isn't so great, either.
Moreover, cretinous tattoos will never "improve" any body.
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Nothing but spiteful. I personally despise tattoos with a passion but there are plenty of people on this little rock of a planet that do. no point in being a jerk about it and calling someone ugly over it. Just move on. Not all women are rail thin with perfect skin either, and some even don't mind that they're not perfect, no need to pick on the girl either.
 
And then whine about the reasons why no-one posts images any more.

These images may not be to your tastes, but there are some quite petty comments here from people who really should know better ( and also who never ever show any images confirming their (allegedly) obvious superiority).

I always look forward to your stuff Jay and appreciate you continuing to post, despite the scorn and vitriol that increasingly poisons these forums.
 
Tom Boucher said:
Barrie Davis said:
The lighting is pedestrian.
The posing is ugly...
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Fair Comments
Tom Boucher said:
... and the girl isn't so great, either.
Moreover, cretinous tattoos will never "improve" any body.
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Nothing but spiteful.
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Not spiteful, at all. Just being honest. (People quite often mistake honesty for spitefulness.)
Tom Boucher said:
I personally despise tattoos with a passion but there are plenty of people on this little rock of a planet that do. no point in being a jerk about it and calling someone ugly over it.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sadly, I didn't behold enough of it here.
Tom Boucher said:
Just move on. Not all women are rail thin with perfect skin either, and some even don't mind that they're not perfect, no need to pick on the girl either.
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Sorry, but the photographer does have to discriminate in favour of a pretty girl, if the intention is to produce something attractive. Either that, or the shortcomings of the model that's available require to be masked with the dual artifices of clever posing and subtle lighting ....

.... both of which we evidently AGREED had not happened here.

On the contrary, it isn't JUST a lack of good posing and sympathetic lighting. They are not even neutral. They actually work against her, poor thing! The photographer has taken lighting and posing and done them so badly as to make her physical shortcomings appear all the WORSE.

Indeed, it is not ME that has been unkind, here. The unkindness to the young woman originates in the photographer who took these ... pictures, and then showed them on the net!

The tattoos were her choice, of course, but they just about put the tin lid on the catalogue of errors!!

No spite, here! But no kidding, either. :-|
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Baz

"Ahh... But the thing is, they were not just ORDINARY time travellers!"
 
There isn't a single component of this photograph (lighting, styling, pose, etc.) that is flattering to the model. All of this, however, matters not if she likes the photos. Have you asked her, Jay, what she thinks of the photos? Twenty years from now will she be proud of this documentary. If she likes the photos then nothing that anyone says on this forum really matters.
 
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