Another video of EOS M focusing on moving model

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It can track a face quickly enough, but not much of a demonstration of overall focus speed. We have learned to never underestimate the ability of cute girls to sell electronics. :)
 
Actually I timed the video and it took about 2sec to focus first time, so initial reports from IR about slow AF might be right. Tracking AF wasn't bad, but the girl wasn't moving fast and they had benefit of double takes.
 
The touchscreen also looks to be a bit fidgety. But to be fair, he was probably holding the camera at an unnatural angle in order for the video to be shot. Plus, talking and demoing at the same time didn't help either.

I guess people will have to try it out for themselves to know how well it works and whether or not it's a convenience or hindrance in actual usage.
 
It can track a face quickly enough, but not much of a demonstration of overall focus speed. We have learned to never underestimate the ability of cute girls to sell electronics. :)
For me a very unimpressive video. And if that Senior Canon Director at minute 4 of the video is explaining official Canon strategy, it means that compatibility with all Canon lenses was more important to them than offering a mirrorless system/kit that makes sense. And claiming that Canon believes there should not be any compromise while leaving off viewfinder and flash is of cause a big joke.
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For me a very unimpressive video. And if that Senior Canon Director at minute 4 of the video is explaining official Canon strategy, it means that compatibility with all Canon lenses was more important to them than offering a mirrorless system/kit that makes sense. And claiming that Canon believes there should not be any compromise while leaving off viewfinder and flash is of cause a big joke.
Well, being an existing Canonite with a few EOS lenses, personally I would say that having full lens compatibility would be one of the MAJOR reasons for me to consider this camera over similar alternatives.

A viewfinder would have meant compromises in design. For users coming from the P&S direction, this is what they are used to. A viewfinder would seem weird and unecessary.

As for flash, any built-in flash would be almost useless. It is an APS-C being launched with an F2.0 lens as an option and an external flash included. Seems to me that all the bases are covered.
 
It can track a face quickly enough, but not much of a demonstration of overall focus speed. We have learned to never underestimate the ability of cute girls to sell electronics. :)
For me a very unimpressive video. And if that Senior Canon Director at minute 4 of the video is explaining official Canon strategy, it means that compatibility with all Canon lenses was more important to them than offering a mirrorless system/kit that makes sense. And claiming that Canon believes there should not be any compromise while leaving off viewfinder and flash is of cause a big joke.
makes sense to me .. that's one of the main advantages .. a small backup camera that can use my EF lenses without any more of a cropping factor than what i'm used to already.

you don't think mount compatibility in a way that makes sense with the over 70 million canon EF lenses makes sense?

the bodies can change .. get more featured as time goes on .. the mount will not change.
 
makes sense to me .. that's one of the main advantages .. a small backup camera that can use my EF lenses without any more of a cropping factor than what i'm used to already.
But how small is it with that adapter and your (maybe) huge EF lens on it? Isn't it easier just to throw your lenses on your SLR? Then at least they work at full speed. I've been waiting for this announcement for ages but now I suddenly can't see the point. The EOS M with my big Sigma 10–20 on it and an adapter might be nearly as big and twice as clumsy as what I already have (a 400D that showing its age in many ways). Hmmm.

So maybe I'd be better off getting rid of my old lenses and starting from scratch with a smaller system. And if I do that, the EOS M doesn't really match up to the competition and costs about the same as a Sony NEX-7 or Olympus OM-5 for now. Can't see myself getting another SLR body.

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makes sense to me .. that's one of the main advantages .. a small backup camera that can use my EF lenses without any more of a cropping factor than what i'm used to already.
But how small is it with that adapter and your (maybe) huge EF lens on it? Isn't it easier just to throw your lenses on your SLR? Then at least they work at full speed. I've been waiting for this announcement for ages but now I suddenly can't see the point. The EOS M with my big Sigma 10–20 on it and an adapter might be nearly as big and twice as clumsy as what I already have (a 400D that showing its age in many ways). Hmmm.
"a small backup camera" ?

backup meaning .. secondary .. meaning it's in your bag on a trip etc .. taking up less room than a secondarly .. (backup) .. DSLR? that you have in case of emergency with your main DSLR?
 
makes sense to me .. that's one of the main advantages .. a small backup camera that can use my EF lenses without any more of a cropping factor than what i'm used to already.
But how small is it with that adapter and your (maybe) huge EF lens on it? Isn't it easier just to throw your lenses on your SLR? Then at least they work at full speed. I've been waiting for this announcement for ages but now I suddenly can't see the point. The EOS M with my big Sigma 10–20 on it and an adapter might be nearly as big and twice as clumsy as what I already have (a 400D that showing its age in many ways). Hmmm.
"a small backup camera" ?

backup meaning .. secondary .. meaning it's in your bag on a trip etc .. taking up less room than a secondarly .. (backup) .. DSLR? that you have in case of emergency with your main DSLR?
This may be one use for this camera, but certainly not the intended one that willl get them a lot of sales. The last thing the apparent primary target wants is more bulk and complexity. I can't imagine the ergonomics are very good with such a setup, either. I find all these images and videos with huge lenses mounted on a small body rather silly. But that's just me.



Better throw a tripod into your bag, too, to hold that one steady...
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makes sense to me .. that's one of the main advantages .. a small backup camera that can use my EF lenses without any more of a cropping factor than what i'm used to already.
But how small is it with that adapter and your (maybe) huge EF lens on it? Isn't it easier just to throw your lenses on your SLR? Then at least they work at full speed. I've been waiting for this announcement for ages but now I suddenly can't see the point. The EOS M with my big Sigma 10–20 on it and an adapter might be nearly as big and twice as clumsy as what I already have (a 400D that showing its age in many ways). Hmmm.

So maybe I'd be better off getting rid of my old lenses and starting from scratch with a smaller system. And if I do that, the EOS M doesn't really match up to the competition and costs about the same as a Sony NEX-7 or Olympus OM-5 for now. Can't see myself getting another SLR body.

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I think maybe the reason you can't see the point is that at the moment Canon's EF M lens range has only 2 lenses in it. When it has say 5 lenses, all of which are purpose designed for the EF M and which are therefore small and make the most of the small body format, and then when Canon have several 'M' bodies to suit different user groups perhaps things will seem a lot clearer?

The EF M adapter is a bridge / stop gap, call it what you will that simply enables many users to think yes I can use my EF / EF-S lenses without loss of functionality. I suppose there might be the occasional person that does use his 800mm or whatever on such a camera but most purchasers will get most benefit out of the camera with the lenses designed specifically for it. Nice to know you can fit your EF lenses though.
 

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