what is the "focus hold" button on the A77?

I am 99% sure :-) that the "Focus Hold Button" is on many (but not all, and mostly heavier) Sony lenses.
Well, it is certainly looking like focus hold button is found on the lens, not on the camera, but I don't know about the percentage of lenses that have this button. The DT 16-50 f/2.8 SSM that comes with the A77 does not have it.

Will
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
 
This has been discussed before on this forum. The wording in the manual is unclear, which, I believe, they fixed in later manuals.
I do want to state for the record that I searched. I found a zillion threads but most of them seemed only to have the word "focus" in them. The main hit was one that talked about focus hold as a feature on lenses but didn't (at that time) seem to address the questions I raised in my original post, which arose from the fact that there's a setting fro this in the camera and it's referred to in the camera manual. I thought focus hold on the button must be something different.

Will
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

 
I am 99% sure :-) that the "Focus Hold Button" is on many (but not all, and mostly heavier) Sony lenses.
Well, it is certainly looking like focus hold button is found on the lens, not on the camera, but I don't know about the percentage of lenses that have this button. The DT 16-50 f/2.8 SSM that comes with the A77 does not have it.
Hi Will,

Here is a list of Sony alpha lenses that have a Focus Hold Button. I don't think any DT lenses do.

Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA
Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA
70-200mm F2.8 G
70-400mm F4-5.6 G SSM
35mm F1.4 G
300mm F2.8 G
50mm F1.8 Macro
100mm F2.8 Macro
500mm F8 Reflex

(Got DPR error. Resending. Apologies is error results in double-post.)
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
 
I could be wrong, but I think it does not exist in physical form. I think this menu setting defines how the button works on lenses that come with one.
Doug,

That makes perfect sense. Thanks.

How hard would it have been to SAY THIS in the user manual? Seriously, if anybody with Sony can reach the people in charge, I'll rewrite the A99 manual in return for a camera. You can get to my website to contact me and I'll send you my writing resume.

Will
The button is to the lower left side of the lens mount on the body (when you're looking directly at the camera... or on the same side as the grip). It is a small button that can be set for DOF Preview (I guess A77 manual calls it Aperture Preview) or for Focus Hold.
No. That's the "Preview Button". The Preview Button is not the same as the Focus Hold button.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&message=42113514
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And unless things are dramatically different in that regard from my A55, that menu option will allow switching functionality of that little button on the camera body between "Focus Hold" and "Aperture Preview".

I can pretty much guarantee that the A77 manual is talking about that button (not necessarily on lenses only... one of which I happen to own).
 
Front of the camera, under the lens, opposite side from the focus more selector.
Nope.

That's called the Preview button. See the user manual, p 66 (where Preview button and Focus Hold button are distinguished) and p 19 (where the button you're talking about is identified as the Preview button).

Will
And that button can be set to be used as Focus Hold button (if you prefer). That is the option you get via the menu.
Not, afaict, on the a77. The options for the Preview Button (viz.: the button on the camera body) are:
  • DoF preview, or
  • Shot preview.
DoF preview is the identical to the DoF preview available as an option for the Focus Hold Button.

Shot preview takes a reduced-size exposure and shows it to you with some options to change exposure parameters.

So:
Preview Button:
  • On the camera body
  • One of either "DoF preview" or "Shot preview"
Focus Hold Button:
  • On some alpha-mount lenses (generally heavier and more expensive)
  • One of either "DoF preview" or "Focus hold"
Fwiw, the AF/MF button can be set to the "focus hold" function, either as a toggle or while pressed.

I find the Preview Button awkwardly placed, and I have four lenses with Focus Hold Buttons. I keep my cameras set with:
  • AF/MF: toggles focus hold
  • Preview Button: DoF preview, but only used for lenses that do not have a Focus Hold Button
  • Focus Hold Button: DoF preview.
HTH.
 
If that is the case, Focus Hold functionality via the body is not available in the A77 unless the lens has it. OTOH, my A55 has that button programmable between DOF Preview and Focus Hold and it applies to any lens. And if the lens has Focus Hold button, that functionality is also controlled based on the menu setting.
 
That might be correct. So, AF/MF is the alternative in A77 to Focus Hold option (as in my A55, achieved via the Preview button).
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And unless things are dramatically different in that regard from my A55, that menu option will allow switching functionality of that little button on the camera body between "Focus Hold" and "Aperture Preview".
Can you double-check? The a77 does NOT work that way. The "focus hold" function is not assignable to the Preview Button. I have confirmed this with both the a77 manual and Gary Friedman's excellent guide.
I can pretty much guarantee that the A77 manual is talking about that button (not necessarily on lenses only... one of which I happen to own).
No. The manual distinguished between the Preview Button (mentioned on 9 pages in the a77 manual) and the Focus Hold Button (mentioned on 3 pages in the manual).
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And unless things are dramatically different in that regard from my A55, that menu option will allow switching functionality of that little button on the camera body between "Focus Hold" and "Aperture Preview".
Can you double-check? The a77 does NOT work that way. The "focus hold" function is not assignable to the Preview Button. I have confirmed this with both the a77 manual and Gary Friedman's excellent guide.
I can pretty much guarantee that the A77 manual is talking about that button (not necessarily on lenses only... one of which I happen to own).
No. The manual distinguished between the Preview Button (mentioned on 9 pages in the a77 manual) and the Focus Hold Button (mentioned on 3 pages in the manual).
That is how it works on A55. The DOF Preview button can be set to Focus Hold. And if the lens has Focus Hold button, the same setting (as in the body) is inherited. A77 appears to be different.
 
I think you owe me and William Porter (the OP) an apology. His original question specified the a77. You have posted nine times to his thread, in eight of those posts you have given incorrect information which you then defended.

Fwiw, the manual for your a55 specifies that the Focus Hold Button is on lenses each of the two times it refers to the "Focus Hold Button":
If you use a lens equipped with a focus hold button, you can change the function of the button to preview a shot. (p.150)
Sets the function of the focus hold button of the lens. (p. 51)
The a33/a55's Preview Button does NOT function the same as the a65/a77.
 
OTOH, my A55 has that button programmable between DOF Preview and Focus Hold and it applies to any lens.
Could you please confirm this as well? According to the Sony a55 manual, the Preview Button's sole function is DoF preview. There is no mention of using the Preview Button to hold the focus.
And if the lens has Focus Hold button, that functionality is also controlled based on the menu setting.
Again, according to the manual, there is a menu settings for the Focus Hold Button, but there is NO setting for the Preview Button.
 
....is the same as the A77 with regards to Focus Hold. There is no physical button on the camera body. The menu setting just determines the behavior of the Focus Hold buttons on those lenses that have them. And the "Preview" button on the A65 cannot be reassigned to Focus Hold.

Several people in this thread have already explained this correctly. "Einstein" is simply wrong and argumentative!
 
When holding the camera to take a shot, the focus hold button would be near the bottom and to the right of the lens mount on the camera body. You should be able to access it by extending one of your right hand fingers while holding the grip.
No. That is called the Preview button. See p 19 and p 66 of the A77 user manual and notice that the preview button and focus hold button are clearly distinct, and the one you're referring to is the preview button.

Looks like the focus hold button is on some lenses and not on the camera body at all.

Will
So I've been misusing the button, thinking I was getting a DOF preview all along, when it was previewing more than the DOF... Hmm, maybe that explains why the DOF preview always looked a little odd.

And now I'm feeling cheated out of a button!!!

But, it's not just the expensive lenses that have this, the Minolta 70-210 f4.5-5.6 has a focus hold button on it. Along with the Minolta 28-105 XI and the 100-300 APO D, and a bunch of others.
 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And unless things are dramatically different in that regard from my A55, that menu option will allow switching functionality of that little button on the camera body between "Focus Hold" and "Aperture Preview".
Can you double-check? The a77 does NOT work that way. The "focus hold" function is not assignable to the Preview Button. I have confirmed this with both the a77 manual and Gary Friedman's excellent guide.
I can pretty much guarantee that the A77 manual is talking about that button (not necessarily on lenses only... one of which I happen to own).
No. The manual distinguished between the Preview Button (mentioned on 9 pages in the a77 manual) and the Focus Hold Button (mentioned on 3 pages in the manual).
And, now I'm wondering what the difference is between the DOF preview and the aperture preview?
 
This is an understandable misunderstanding given the different function of this button on different SLTs.

Here's Gary Friedman's explanation of the choices for the preview button on the A77:

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Menu Position MENU  3  Preview Button

What it Does Lets you select from a pure classic “depth-of-field preview” function or a depth-of-field function on steroids, which also shows lens corrections, DRO effects, and even the effects of a slow shutter speed

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As EinsteinsGhost said, it's different on the A55.

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Here's the A77 manual on the menu setting for the focus hold button:
Focus Hold Button: Sets the function of the focus hold button of the lens .
(Focus Hold/D.O.F.Preview)

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Don't be hesitant to make a contribution to the forum just because you might be wrong. Someone will have the expertise to correct it. It's not personal.
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And unless things are dramatically different in that regard from my A55, that menu option will allow switching functionality of that little button on the camera body between "Focus Hold" and "Aperture Preview".
Can you double-check? The a77 does NOT work that way. The "focus hold" function is not assignable to the Preview Button. I have confirmed this with both the a77 manual and Gary Friedman's excellent guide.
I can pretty much guarantee that the A77 manual is talking about that button (not necessarily on lenses only... one of which I happen to own).
No. The manual distinguished between the Preview Button (mentioned on 9 pages in the a77 manual) and the Focus Hold Button (mentioned on 3 pages in the manual).
That is how it works on A55. The DOF Preview button can be set to Focus Hold. And if the lens has Focus Hold button, the same setting (as in the body) is inherited. A77 appears to be different.
--
Gary

 
Gary,

Excellent and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot.

Will
Look at the button at the bottom near the lens mount... that is the button being mentioned in the manual.

No, it is not. That is the "Preview Button". The Preview button is located on alpha camera bodies. The "Focus Hold Button" is located on some Sony (and iirc Minolta) alpha lenses.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Sony+%22preview+button%22+a77&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And unless things are dramatically different in that regard from my A55, that menu option will allow switching functionality of that little button on the camera body between "Focus Hold" and "Aperture Preview".
Can you double-check? The a77 does NOT work that way. The "focus hold" function is not assignable to the Preview Button. I have confirmed this with both the a77 manual and Gary Friedman's excellent guide.
I can pretty much guarantee that the A77 manual is talking about that button (not necessarily on lenses only... one of which I happen to own).
No. The manual distinguished between the Preview Button (mentioned on 9 pages in the a77 manual) and the Focus Hold Button (mentioned on 3 pages in the manual).
And, now I'm wondering what the difference is between the DOF preview and the aperture preview?
Nomenclature. :)
 

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