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I compared the Nikon 16-85 to the Sigma 17-70 os while shopping for my midrange lens. Similar focal range. While the Nikon typically gets points for sharpness and is very likely an excellent choice for landscape/travel needs, I chose the Sigma for its close focusing and bokeh which makes it excellent for flower closeups and portraits. It has proved sharp enough for my needs and is sold at @ $450. It should be readily available.
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If you can't make good photos with a 50mm lens or you "get bored" with your camera because it can't zoom, then photography probably isn't for you!
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Antonio
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Yes... the snobs and those who have no clue.Some people think the 16-85 is a waste of money.
The 16-85 is an excellent lens. It covers a very nice range, it is fairly fast focusing and is very sharp. I don't know how it is on the D7k, I have the D300s, but on that camera it is very nice lens.So I just got my D7000 body, and I've been waiting to get the 16-85mm lens, because I've heard good things about it. Nobody has had it in stock, so now I just want to go and purchase something else that will get me shooting, but I want to buy something nice that I can keep around.
Since I'm just getting into it, I can imagine that I'll want to experiment with everything from landscapes to portraits to nature. Anyone have any recommendations on a good all-around lens that's as good, or better, than the 16-85? I want something sharp, and will spend a little more money if I have to.
...and if there is a wall or a rock preventing you from taking a few steps back then you just blast that wall or rock away from the face of the earth, and if you can't get a wide enough view you just take many images and stitch them together...If you can't make good photos with a 50mm lens or you "get bored" with your camera because it can't zoom, then photography probably isn't for you!![]()
..it's $400 better than the 16-85mm
both lenses are virtually identical, buying the 16-85mm instead of 18-105mm is a waste of $400...it's $400 better than the 16-85mm![]()
I disagree. The 16-85 is better build and the extra 2mm makes a difference. It is also optically better.both lenses are virtually identical, buying the 16-85mm instead of 18-105mm is a waste of $400...it's $400 better than the 16-85mm![]()
If I could turn back time I'd still buy that one before the 18-105 but sure, the 18-105 would be my second choice. Now I have the 16-85 and I will only sell it if I also sell the D300s. It's the best travel lens there is for the DX, good range, VR and very sharp, even wide open and even at the widest focal length.Sold mine after a couple of months.
I use a hammer for hitting nails. The build quality makes no difference. Both lenses are plastic, it's not a pro vs consumer level of difference - the 16-85 build quality is pathetic when compared to a 24-70mm. As well as the AF speed.I disagree. The 16-85 is better build
as well as the 20mm on the long end for the 18-105mmand the extra 2mm makes a difference.
no it isn't. If you can spot the difference, you've got a bad copy.It is also optically better.
OK.I use a hammer for hitting nails.I disagree. The 16-85 is better build
To you...The build quality makes no difference.
We are not talking about that 24-70 are we? Is the OP interestted in that lens at all? I am certainly not, because it is the wrong focal length for DX.Both lenses are plastic, it's not a pro vs consumer level of difference - the 16-85 build quality is pathetic when compared to a 24-70mm. As well as the AF speed.
No it doesn't. Not as much as the WA end.as well as the 20mm on the long end for the 18-105mmand the extra 2mm makes a difference.
Yes it is. The 18-105 has considerably more CA and distortion and it is in fact clearly there, no bad copy needed.no it isn't. If you can spot the difference, you've got a bad copy.It is also optically better.
I disagree. The 16-85 is better build and the extra 2mm makes a difference. It is also optically better.both lenses are virtually identical, buying the 16-85mm instead of 18-105mm is a waste of $400...it's $400 better than the 16-85mm![]()
If I could turn back time I'd still buy that one before the 18-105 but sure, the 18-105 would be my second choice. Now I have the 16-85 and I will only sell it if I also sell the D300s. It's the best travel lens there is for the DX, good range, VR and very sharp, even wide open and even at the widest focal length.Sold mine after a couple of months.
--...and if there is a wall or a rock preventing you from taking a few steps back then you just blast that wall or rock away from the face of the earth, and if you can't get a wide enough view you just take many images and stitch them together...If you can't make good photos with a 50mm lens or you "get bored" with your camera because it can't zoom, then photography probably isn't for you!![]()
Comments like yours are always amusing to read. It is a pretty narrow minded opinion not to be able to imagine any other needs and wishes.
not important to me, and certainly not worth the extra $400To you...The build quality makes no difference.
...how about one sealed the other not...
for you..We are not talking about that 24-70 are we? Is the OP interestted in that lens at all? I am certainly not, because it is the wrong focal length for DX.
to you..No it doesn't. Not as much as the WA end.as well as the 20mm on the long end for the 18-105mmand the extra 2mm makes a difference.
Needs and wishes like those of the guy in this thread who sees more value in the 18-105 than the 16-85 ?Comments like yours are always amusing to read. It is a pretty narrow minded opinion not to be able to imagine any other needs and wishes.
I guess you have no humor... or I was not funny, because I was not supportive to your idea. Guess which...Wow, get your meds adjusted man. We are talking about camera gear, not curing cancer. If someone has a different point of view, they are not narrow minded. Just different. Take it down a notch.
...for you.not important to me, and certainly not worth the extra $400To you...The build quality makes no difference.
...how about one sealed the other not...
...and for many others. That's why Nikon made the 17-55, that's the DX version of it. The 24-70 is for FX and is the wrong focal length on DX.for you..We are not talking about that 24-70 are we? Is the OP interestted in that lens at all? I am certainly not, because it is the wrong focal length for DX. Anyway, that's not the lens the OP was interested in.
...and to many others, but not to you.to you..No it doesn't. Not as much as the WA end.as well as the 20mm on the long end for the 18-105mmand the extra 2mm makes a difference.