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Is the D3200 better than the D7000?

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The D7K is an awesome camera (just upgraded from D5100). Definitely worth the extra $400..I intend on keeping this one and skip one generation and see what the D72K has to offer :)

To each his own..
 
bocajrs said:
The D7K is an awesome camera (just upgraded from D5100). Definitely worth the extra $400..I intend on keeping this one and skip one generation and see what the D72K has to offer :)

To each his own..
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The D72,000? I think we'll be waiting a while for that one ;)
 
Wellington100 said:
Michel F said:
It's overall IQ might be better but it's missing functions will make it uninteresting to many.

So yes, it might be better in some ways but not as good in others. If it had exposure bracketing I'd sell my D5100 and get it instead. I sure hope the auto focus is more reliable than the D5100.
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Why do you need exposure bracketing on a camera with such a high Dynamic Range?
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You're kidding right ?
Wellington100 said:
Exposure bracketing is a non essential feature when a sensor has so much DR. All you have to do to be safe in bright and contrasty light is underexpose slightly to protect the highlights and lift the shadows in PP to suite your taste.
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snapper1967 said:
Why do the specs and reviews seem so much better for a cheaper camera?
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Wellington100 said:
Peter Jonas said:
Wellington100 said:
Why do you need exposure bracketing on a camera with such a high Dynamic Range?

Exposure bracketing is a non essential feature when a sensor has so much DR. All you have to do to be safe in bright and contrasty light is underexpose slightly to protect the highlights and lift the shadows in PP to suite your taste.
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Then explain to me why Nikon would include advanced bracketing functions in their recent pro models ? A gadget perhaps ? Fluff ?
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Maybe he doesn't like PP, and therefore shoots JPGs. And I say fair enough.
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I do basic PP in iPhoto and it takes seconds, you don't need Photoshop or Lightroom to dramatically improve an image. By comparison exposure compensation is such a coarse way of solving the problem of a correctly exposed image
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Have you at least tried Photoshop and learned how to use it ?
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Peter Jonas said:
snapper1967 said:
Why do the specs and reviews seem so much better for a cheaper camera?
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I don't know about the reviews, I am yet to read one where there is a comparision made between the two cameras.
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Here is comparrison of D7000 and D3200

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/ (appareil1) 801|0 (brand) Nikon (appareil2) 680|0 (brand2) Nikon

WOW! and still - No, Thank you.
Leo
Peter Jonas said:
The way I read the specs tells me that in most aspects the D3200 is some way off from being better than the D7000. Resolution is not one of those aspects. However, resoluton is but a tiny part of the overall picture.

What specs do you specifically have in mind?

By the way are you still happy with your new D7000?

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Michel F said:
Wellington100 said:
Peter Jonas said:
Wellington100 said:
Why do you need exposure bracketing on a camera with such a high Dynamic Range?

Exposure bracketing is a non essential feature when a sensor has so much DR. All you have to do to be safe in bright and contrasty light is underexpose slightly to protect the highlights and lift the shadows in PP to suite your taste.
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Then explain to me why Nikon would include advanced bracketing functions in their recent pro models ? A gadget perhaps ? Fluff ?
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Not at all, I said that it was a non essential feature not an undesirable one or a waste of time. Obviously pro cameras should and do have all conceivable features but to discard Nikons entry level model when it does not have a feature that can so easily be worked around thanks to its modern sensor, is IMHO a mistake.
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Michel F said:
Michel F said:
Maybe he doesn't like PP, and therefore shoots JPGs. And I say fair enough.
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I do basic PP in iPhoto and it takes seconds, you don't need Photoshop or Lightroom to dramatically improve an image. By comparison exposure compensation is such a coarse way of solving the problem of a correctly exposed image
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Have you at least tried Photoshop and learned how to use it ?
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No I am moving to Aperture at the moment. Photoshop is overkill for my purposes and Aperture suites me better than Lightroom

But my point was that even iPhoto can dramatically improve an image so why anyone might to to all of the trouble of using a Nikon DSLR then not want to PP it in the slightest, is puzzling.
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Frankly I don't see how anyone could have any trouble accepting a cheaper camera outperforming an older model. Anyone want to pit a 10 year old $2,000 gaming computer against today's $500 one?

There will never be a camera that can't be improved on nor a price that can't be beaten.
 
Joe Bowers said:
Frankly I don't see how anyone could have any trouble accepting a cheaper camera outperforming an older model.
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I don't have any trouble with that either. But I am afraid this is not the case in this instance. The D3200 might be able to produce higher esolution images in certain conditions, but I could list here at least 10 things that the D3200 cannot do to start with let alone do it better than the D7000. In spite of its higher resolution the D3200 cannot even come close to the D7000.

That does not mean the D3200 is not a good camera, or that it will not be the perfect camera for 100s of 1000s of people.
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Anyone want to pit a 10 year old $2,000 gaming computer against today's $500 one?
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This statement is either very silly or just plain ignorant. The D7000 is less than 2 years old, and it is a different class of camera from the D3200. It offers very useful features the D3200 was never intended to do. Therefore such comparision is futile. The D3200 will only satisfy people who do not want or need or want to pay for the features the D7000 offers and the D3200 doesn't.
Joe Bowers said:
There will never be a camera that can't be improved on nor a price that can't be beaten.
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I agree with your last statement, but it is not relevant in this context.

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Do people actually read what they write before posting!!!
Peter> You make great points and couldnt agree with you more.
Peter Jonas said:
Joe Bowers said:
Frankly I don't see how anyone could have any trouble accepting a cheaper camera outperforming an older model.
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I don't have any trouble with that either. But I am afraid this is not the case in this instance. The D3200 might be able to produce higher esolution images in certain conditions, but I could list here at least 10 things that the D3200 cannot do to start with let alone do it better than the D7000. In spite of its higher resolution the D3200 cannot even come close to the D7000.

That does not mean the D3200 is not a good camera, or that it will not be the perfect camera for 100s of 1000s of people.
Peter Jonas said:
Anyone want to pit a 10 year old $2,000 gaming computer against today's $500 one?
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This statement is either very silly or just plain ignorant. The D7000 is less than 2 years old, and it is a different class of camera from the D3200. It offers very useful features the D3200 was never intended to do. Therefore such comparision is futile. The D3200 will only satisfy people who do not want or need or want to pay for the features the D7000 offers and the D3200 doesn't.
Peter Jonas said:
There will never be a camera that can't be improved on nor a price that can't be beaten.
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I agree with your last statement, but it is not relevant in this context.

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Peter Jonas
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Joe Bowers said:
Frankly I don't see how anyone could have any trouble accepting a cheaper camera outperforming an older model. Anyone want to pit a 10 year old $2,000 gaming computer against today's $500 one?

There will never be a camera that can't be improved on nor a price that can't be beaten.
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It is all about what means good for you: the sensor, the body weight, ergonomics, camera functions (Q-mode, AF micro-adjust, motor in the camera body to use old AF Nikon lenses and etc)?

You may never want or never heard about some of the D7000 functions. Many are paying for D7000 because of above and more.
Leo
 
We asume that everything in the camera , especially it's image pathway is the same when in reality it just isn't so . Not only that but the quality of the parts in the circuit , it's tolerances and the implementation are all better . We have to remember that the imaging sensor is not the whole story . The pathway used is important. That being as it is I will dare say right now that we have gotten to a point in which the image quality between a top notch camera and a consumer one are slight and the lens used make a bigger difference then the body itself.
 
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