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Hello,

Time has passed since I pre-ordered a silver body only, and I still have not received it.

A very reliable source now says not to expect any OM-D silver or black body only in USA until July-Aug (?). What's up with that? :(

So, how many of you have cancelled your OM-D order for another camera and which camera did you decide on?

Or thought more about the camera since real world users have reported on the OM-D, and now decided to pass on the OM-D as it is not a significant upgrade from what you are now shooting with?

This is a follow up to my post how many have buyer's remorse since the DPR review:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&message=41394373

Now considering a G1X or Fuji Pro 1 since I would like to replace my Gf-1/G2 for an upcoming trip to France. I have been told that the GH3 wil also be out soon with better low noise high IQ.

Plan to shoot Lascaux cave paintings, and chateaus by available light. I will carry no tripod.

Thanks and sorry for the ranting.

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Like others here, I suffer from chronic GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
 
I think that since you appear to have so much angst about your decision (even asking for reinforcement from others based on the DPR review) that you cancel your order and pick up a camera that is in stock and satisfies your needs.
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Len_Gee said:
Hello,

Time has passed since I pre-ordered a silver body only, and I still have not received it.

A very reliable source now says not to expect any OM-D silver or black body only in USA until July-Aug (?). What's up with that? :(

So, how many of you have cancelled your OM-D order for another camera and which camera did you decide on?

Or thought more about the camera since real world users have reported on the OM-D, and now decided to pass on the OM-D as it is not a significant upgrade from what you are now shooting with?
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I cancelled my pre-order after considering how I use my EP-3. I shoot mainly at base ISO whenever I can and use fast primes to keep the ISO low in lower light. Much is made of the new sensor in the OMD but having previously owned a GH2 I have a pretty good idea of what the difference is between it and the EP3. The EP3 gives me great results and IQ in a nice sized package so I decided not to buy the OMD as I don't really need it. I may pick one up in a year or so's time when the price has dropped but I'm in no rush. I'm happy with the EP3 and how it performs, it's a very nice camera.
Kung Pao Panda said:
This is a follow up to my post how many have buyer's remorse since the DPR review:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&message=41394373

Now considering a G1X or Fuji Pro 1 since I would like to replace my Gf-1/G2 for an upcoming trip to France. I have been told that the GH3 wil also be out soon with better low noise high IQ.

Plan to shoot Lascaux cave paintings, and chateaus by available light. I will carry no tripod.

Thanks and sorry for the ranting.

--
Like others here, I suffer from chronic GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
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It's a known fact that where there's tea there's hope.
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http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.com/
 
Mostly for financial reasons.

I had a preorder at a very attractive price, but the store was unable to deliver. I kept on calling them every monday for 4 to 5 weeks, and then when things got bad on the work front and I got terminated by my company, I called them again and said "know what, just cancel that"...

Sure, I stil lust for it. Sure, I could probably have afforded it anyway, but I'm thinking the price of the camera means over 7 months of board for my horse, and in trouble times I'd rather be sure I don't have to worry about my responsabilities to a living being for over half a year, rather than spoiling myself with a new toy I don't need.. and which might not even be a big upgrade over what I'm shooting now !

Since I had very real issues with Olympus menus and jpeg default output on a lower spec'd body, I'd rather not take the risk to spend a huge amount of money on another cam that is likely to exhibit the same issues.

Instead I treated myself to a LVF2 for my GX-1, and I might add a legacy lens a bit later to fully enjoy that.

My rationale is : the E-M5 is not going anywhere. It'll still be here within 6 months of a year, only available this time, and cheaper, too. I've seen a handful for sale on forums already from people who can't get accustomed to the menus/handling. Buying used as always been very favorable to me, so I'll do that a few months from now, when I have another job. In the meanwhile I'm enjoying the gear I have TODAY, rather than obsessing about something I'd like to have..

Marla.

 
"A very reliable source now says not to expect any OM-D silver or black body only in USA until July-Aug (?). What's up with that? "

I received my Silver Body only kit from Adorama yesterday.

For my use so far it seems to be a very significant upgrade from the GF1.

Shawn
 
Len_Gee said:
A very reliable source now says not to expect any OM-D silver or black body only in USA until July-Aug (?). What's up with that? :(

So, how many of you have cancelled your OM-D order for another camera and which camera did you decide on?

Now considering a G1X or Fuji Pro 1 since I would like to replace my Gf-1/G2 for an upcoming trip to France. I have been told that the GH3 wil also be out soon with better low noise high IQ.
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While EM5 seems to be impressive, I'm pretty satisfied with my GH2. There are certain things I'd be unwilling to give up: better handling and interface, multi-aspect ratio sensor, better video and especially the fully articulated screen. A pop-up flash is extremely handy. Being forced to add a grip to improve handling in order to keep stick to the nostalgic diesign is, as far as I'm concerned, a design failure. And I remain unmoved by retro styling or IBIS.

I'm curious to see what the G5 and GH3 bring to the table. I would suspect the G5 at the very least meet the EM5 in terms of IQ and the GH3 to leapfrog it by quite a distance, since it's already damn close. Of course, that's all conjecture and I've been busy getting lenses and in no hurry to upgrade (spend more money ;-)), so waiting to see what new things are released seems like a good idea.
Kung Pao Panda said:
Plan to shoot Lascaux cave paintings, and chateaus by available light. I will carry no tripod.
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I hope you either have, or are planning to get, one of the Voigtländer Nokton f0.95 lenses for your spelunking tour. I'd probably opt for the 17.5mm. Sounds like a cool trip!
 
Hello, and sorry English is my second language.

I am not a pro, just a vacation and family snapshooter.

Yes, too much angst and I think maybe the Olympus EP-3 or G1X(?). I do like the rangefinder type form factor, more than the mini-DSLR look, for usual travel vacation carry along camera.

The reason I was so interested in the OM-D for the 5 axis IS, and able to use the Oly 12 and 45 lenses using the Oly IBIS. the 45 lens can be more difficult to keep steady on a Panny camera though? So that is my interest in Oly camera.

EP-3 at 12 mpx, vs OM-D at 16 mpx probably make not so much difference in my pics. :).

But what about best high ISO in EP-3? What do you say is maximum high ISO for shooting in dark places (caves) or city night time pics?

Thanks you for your suggestions.
 
Amazon US started to jerk me around with 'delivery is imminent' and 'delivery is not in sight' messages over a couple of weeks. I had ordered 2/11 and saw that people who ordered in March and even late April and May were getting their cameras before me. So I did get angry and tired of waiting and was at the point of canceling my order when the camera finally appeared this week. I was going to get a Fuji x100 or Voigtlander 17mm lens with the money instead.

It appears that lots of the silver body orders finally were delivered this past week, so the log jam seems to have lifted. I'd call your dealer and get the latest info before you decide. I will say that I won't preorder again as the frustration does take away that fun of a new camera, at least for me it did.

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I decided to wait and now my silver OM-D with 12-50 kit lens will be here Tuesday. I already have a spare battery, the soon to be free FL-300R flash, and picked up a battery grip for $250.

The OM-D has so many features that I wanted in the E-P3 such as tilt OLED display, built-in EVF, splash proof, better sensor and more, that I really wanted the upgrade. I will keep my E-P3 and give my E-PL2 to my 21 YO granddaughter who will make wonderful use of that camera. I an glad I waited.
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Marla2008 said:
Mostly for financial reasons.

Sure, I stil lust for it. Sure, I could probably have afforded it anyway, but I'm thinking the price of the camera means over 7 months of board for my horse, and in trouble times I'd rather be sure I don't have to worry about my responsabilities to a living being for over half a year, rather than spoiling myself with a new toy I don't need.. and which might not even be a big upgrade over what I'm shooting now !

Instead I treated myself to a LVF2 for my GX-1, and I might add a legacy lens a bit later to fully enjoy that.

My rationale is : the E-M5 is not going anywhere. It'll still be here within 6 months of a year, only available this time, and cheaper, too.
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I agree. It's so easy to lose perspective and start drooling over stuff I may use very little. fighting off the urge to buy can be tough.

As an American, shopping lust is in the gene pool ;-). It's also the Number ONE leisure "activity", frighteningly enough!!! My cure is to go to a store, walk around, pick up things I "want", walk around a bit more, then ask myself if I REALLY need it. Then one by one, put things back and leave. It's actually quite satisfying! :-)

I did that with the Voigtländer 17.5mm. Pre-ordered, thought better of it and put the $100 deposit toward a lens I knew I'd use, for 1/3 of the cost. The Voigtländer 75mm f2.5 Color Heliar.
 
Len_Gee said:
Hello, and sorry English is my second language.

I am not a pro, just a vacation and family snapshooter.

Yes, too much angst and I think maybe the Olympus EP-3 or G1X(?). I do like the rangefinder type form factor, more than the mini-DSLR look, for usual travel vacation carry along camera.

The reason I was so interested in the OM-D for the 5 axis IS, and able to use the Oly 12 and 45 lenses using the Oly IBIS. the 45 lens can be more difficult to keep steady on a Panny camera though? So that is my interest in Oly camera.
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The EP3 and 12mm F2 would make a very good combination in lower light using IBIS.
Kung Pao Panda said:
EP-3 at 12 mpx, vs OM-D at 16 mpx probably make not so much difference in my pics. :).

But what about best high ISO in EP-3? What do you say is maximum high ISO for shooting in dark places (caves) or city night time pics?
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In caves you would need a tripod with the EP3 (Most cameras will struggle in that environment without one) but with city scenes where there are plenty of bright lights, the EP3 and 20mm or the 12mm will be fine. Here are a couple of city scenes with the EP3 to give you some idea.

20mm F1.7 ISO 800 1/13th second



20mm F1.7 ISO 800 1/8th second



20mm F1.7 ISO 800 1/15th second ( a bit of handshake on this one )


Kung Pao Panda said:
Thanks you for your suggestions.
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Cancelled Amazon order, but bought kit from a local dealer. If you try hard enough you can probably get one in 2 - 3 weeks. The camera had what I was looking for. Every new camera I've bought when first released had issues with trying to get one.
 
I ordered when it was first announced, and canceled it a bit later. Then I ordered again, and was set up for delivery from cameralandny, but canceled again. Went instead with 2XEPM1 bodies (PLUS added the 9-18 and Rokinon 7.5mm FE).

Reason was very straightforward -- value. I would like better high ISO and cleaner low ISO, but I can wait 6-9 months for prices to fall, and would also take a Pen with the new sensor instead, and I needed to go wide this summer.

Don't know if that helps your decision process, but that's where I'm at.
Len_Gee said:
Hello,

Time has passed since I pre-ordered a silver body only, and I still have not received it.

A very reliable source now says not to expect any OM-D silver or black body only in USA until July-Aug (?). What's up with that? :(

So, how many of you have cancelled your OM-D order for another camera and which camera did you decide on?

Or thought more about the camera since real world users have reported on the OM-D, and now decided to pass on the OM-D as it is not a significant upgrade from what you are now shooting with?

This is a follow up to my post how many have buyer's remorse since the DPR review:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&message=41394373

Now considering a G1X or Fuji Pro 1 since I would like to replace my Gf-1/G2 for an upcoming trip to France. I have been told that the GH3 wil also be out soon with better low noise high IQ.

Plan to shoot Lascaux cave paintings, and chateaus by available light. I will carry no tripod.

Thanks and sorry for the ranting.

--
Like others here, I suffer from chronic GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
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I'm in no hurry. It's not that I'm suffering from a lack of cameras, so I can easily wait for the feeding frenzy to end; also, I have other items of higher priority on my shopping list, that will have a much greater impact on image quality than OM-D.
 
And I'm very happy with it.

Shame you all aren't in Europe - they're all over the place here. I walked by a storefront today that had 4 OMDs in the window, plus two of the grips, out of the package, the official Olympus wrist strap - pretty much every single accessory that goes with the OM-D. I bought an official battery at a big box store yesterday. Bought a new Pany 20 f/1.7, as well. Oly 45 f/1.8s to be had all over town.

If you want one, book a trip across the pond - pick up your camera, accessories and take some nice pictures, all at the same time.

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I currently have a Sony A55 and NEX-5N, with decent external flashes and several good lenses for each.

Due to all the great press the E-M5 has received, I'd convinced myself how wonderful it would be to have one; how superb the IBIS is; the photos I'd get would be better than with the A55; etc.. So, I ordered the black model with the 12-50 and 40-150 lenses from B&H, and was in addition going to buy the Oly FL600 flash and Pany 20mm lens, along with a decent macro lens. The total outlay would at a minimum have been between $2200 and $2500; probably more. I would have had to sell all my Sony A55 gear (camera, flash, lenses), and still put a fair amount of additional money with it. And even with that, the lenses I'd end up with would in some respects be lacking compared to what I have now.

The back-order situation gave me time to mull things over, and realize that I have two nice camera systems already that suffice for all my photography needs. I've certainly not outgrown either of them. In addition, reading through this thread helped me come to grips with the fact that I'm retired now and just flat don't have as much money to spend on new toys as I used to, no matter how nice they are or how much I'd like to have them.

And, there's probably also an element of "you should get out and take more pictures with what you have NOW, instead of wasting time at the computer lusting over brand new gear".

As a result, I cancelled the E-M5 order. When I want to do serious picture taking and don't mind carrying the extra weight around (e.g., going to the park to do macro bug photography, where the camera and lens are on a tripod that is stationary the majority of the time), I'm going to "make do" with my Sony A55, FL42AM flash and the lenses I've accumulated over the past few years. If I want to travel light, I'll take my NEX-5N and whichever lens(es) I need out of the four I have for it.

And, even if I decide to sell the A55 and take a little step up to the new Sony A57 (focus peaking, better video, latest processor etc.), that's still only a net outlay of $350-$400 or so.

Would I LIKE to have an E-M5? You bet your bippy I would; I think it's a great camera. If I were still working I wouldn't have cancelled my order and you wouldn't be reading this post. Do I NEED it, given the amount of money I'd have to spend to buy it and build up an equivalent MFT lens inventory? The answer is NO.

So, thanks to the OP for starting this thread, and to the other posters who helped me arrive at a more prudent, mature approach than I'd previously taken.

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but for a good cause. $1900 in summer college tuition costs for our son and daughter. Let me see....$1600 for a new camera when I already have an E500 and E330, or helping our son and daughter get thru college in four years.

No brainer.

I'm saving...including selling the E500...and I hope to buy one later this year.

But, for now, I'll just use the stuff I have. And, maybe, when I order it later, I'll get it in a few days rather than a few weeks. Sounds good, right?
 
Hi Len,

Are you thinking of cancelling because you absolutely must have the silver body, or because you don't want to spend more and get a lens you don't want.

If you're set on a silver one, then you must also consider that the 2 cameras you are considering as alternates both are only available in black. Considering that the em5 is handily more capable than the other 2 cameras, both from an AF standpoint compared to the fuji and an IBIS compared to both. With the fuji, you would also have to invest in a whole new system.

What I would do is buy the cheapest available em5 kit you can find, and either sell/trade off the lens or keep it as a spare.

I'm sorry to hear the preorder delays have frustrated you to the point that you have come to. Good luck with your choice.
 
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