Todays "RIVER Scape" pic

BillyBoy, this is a very nice scene, I like it a lot...looks peaceful...Do you print many of your photos? You should, these scenic 'scapes would look nice matted and framed...

Inigo Montoya said:

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Ok... sounds a bit like PS's "desaturate" sponge tool. Oddly, I
don't think there's a direct opposite (saturate) brush tool.

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Inigo,

What I do is use the history brush...just apply the saturation (or sharpening, levels or anything really) and than in the history box put a tick to the left of the edit you made last and highlight the step before the change and then select your history brush and "paint on" your saturation or sharpening etc...where ever you want it...(choose an appropriate brush size, I use a soft brush...)

Works great to only sharpen your subject and not the sky or OOF areas...much easier then selecting areas with the laso tool...

Want to lighten only your subject like you used a fill flash? Adjust levels so your subject looks good, don't worry about blowing out the background, select the history brush, change the opacity to about 25% and "paint on" your fill flash where you want it...the rest of the image stays the same...

The history brush is your friend...

Bob

Hi Bob,funny you should mention about printing this photo out,I don't print many out and up until this one had not done so since getting my higher pixel cameras. I went back and reprocessed this one and printed it out,wow what a difference between a 2 mp print and a 4 print !

I will put this in a frame as soon as I go to wal mart and get one.Up until today I've only printed this one out and framed it
http://www2.photosig.com/viewphoto.php?id=205660

Bob S said:

Mofongo said:

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Ok... sounds a bit like PS's "desaturate" sponge tool. Oddly, I
don't think there's a direct opposite (saturate) brush tool.

Click to expand...

Inigo,
What I do is use the history brush...just apply the saturation (or
sharpening, levels or anything really) and than in the history box
put a tick to the left of the edit you made last and highlight the
step before the change and then select your history brush and
"paint on" your saturation or sharpening etc...where ever you want
it...(choose an appropriate brush size, I use a soft brush...)

Works great to only sharpen your subject and not the sky or OOF
areas...much easier then selecting areas with the laso tool...

Want to lighten only your subject like you used a fill flash?
Adjust levels so your subject looks good, don't worry about blowing
out the background, select the history brush, change the opacity to
about 25% and "paint on" your fill flash where you want it...the
rest of the image stays the same...

The history brush is your friend...

Bob

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Bill C
E-10,Sony DSC-F717,c-2100

Thanks Bob. Great PS tip.

I didn't mean to say there weren't ways to accomplish it -- obviously there are -- coming from PSE w/no history brush, I would have made two layers and erased through the top one to a more saturated lower one, etc. I was just noting that there wasn't a pre-fabbed "saturation tool" to go with the pre-fabbed "desaturate/sponge tool".

With the history brush, it's obviously a little easier, especially since I hadn't realized it would work for "forward" history as in your example. Pretty neat, and definitely a time saver. I do have one question....

Would painting in a +20 saturation history layer at 50% have the same effect as simply applying a +10 saturation in the first place? Same thing with sharpening -- would history painting back in at 50% that was sharpened at 200% equal an original 100% sharpening pass? I'm thinking if it's like an opacity layer, maybe not in that while the effect is muted, you might have remaining artifacts from the aggressive sharpening that a lesser original pass might not have produced?

Just a thought. Will have to think about this as I've been leaning more towards doing everything as a series of layers as much as possible to allow for revisiting/tweaking each step later.

Bob S said:

Mofongo said:

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Ok... sounds a bit like PS's "desaturate" sponge tool. Oddly, I
don't think there's a direct opposite (saturate) brush tool.

Click to expand...

Inigo,
What I do is use the history brush...just apply the saturation (or
sharpening, levels or anything really) and than in the history box
put a tick to the left of the edit you made last and highlight the
step before the change and then select your history brush and
"paint on" your saturation or sharpening etc...where ever you want
it...(choose an appropriate brush size, I use a soft brush...)

Works great to only sharpen your subject and not the sky or OOF
areas...much easier then selecting areas with the laso tool...

Want to lighten only your subject like you used a fill flash?
Adjust levels so your subject looks good, don't worry about blowing
out the background, select the history brush, change the opacity to
about 25% and "paint on" your fill flash where you want it...the
rest of the image stays the same...

The history brush is your friend...

Bob

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Well ya know, any way you cut it, chop it, slice it, or just generally # &!+ it up, it is still a great catch! Keep up the good work!

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Mysig!

Inigo Montoya said:

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Thanks Bob. Great PS tip.

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Inigo,
Yes. I've been loving this tool since I learned about it...

Inigo Montoya said:

Would painting in a +20 saturation history layer at 50% have the
same effect as simply applying a +10 saturation in the first place?
Same thing with sharpening -- would history painting back in at 50%
that was sharpened at 200% equal an original 100% sharpening pass?
I'm thinking if it's like an opacity layer, maybe not in that while
the effect is muted, you might have remaining artifacts from the
aggressive sharpening that a lesser original pass might not have
produced?

Click to expand...

I think your question just blew my mind.... ;> )
(still waking up with my coffee)...

I'm not sure but let me know when you find out...

Bob