***Challenge***

I'm for the judging system where you give points to 1st-5th, else judging can take a long time. I'd also like to propose to have a challenge subject to be supported by at least 2 other people, so Dan doesn't have to put a lot of affort into something where no one is posting.

Looking forward to the first challenge.

And please also for me no mountains, that would mean I'd have to drive for about 6 hours... ;-)
Ok, let's do this! I'll work on getting a web page set up this
weekend. In the mean time, let's figure out how we're going to do
it - please reply to this if you have feedback on any of the items
below:

1) I figure we'll have a time period to submit photos (two weeks,
maybe?) then a shorter voting period after that. Sound ok?
Initially, we'll set up some guidelines for photo size, file size,
etc., then submissions can be emailed to me (more on that when we
get it going).
I don't think we'll be examining individual pixels, so 800x600
should be fine. You could also specify file type (JPEG?) and
compression (Photoshop level 8?) or a max file size. One challenge
every 3-4 weeks sounds good to me.
2) Should the submissions be visible to everyone as I receive them,
or all at once, at the end of the submission period?
No preference.
3) Should the names of the people submitting the photos be posted
with the photos during voting, or displayed after voting is
complete?
I would wait until the voting is over to disclose names - seems
more honest that way, although it's less of a personal thing then.
4) Should voting be done by choosing one, or by ranking top 5 or
something like that?
How about rating every picture submitted on a scale of 1-10? If
that's too much voting, you could appoint a number of judges who
evaluate every picture but don't participate in that challenge.
After voting is complete, the web page will display the results,
who voted for what, etc.

What have I missed?

Dan
http://wolfdev.com/fujimugs
http://www.pbase.com/dan_wolf
On the Olympus Form they do Challenges. They seem to be a lot of
fun and the people that participate say that they learn things
about their cameras and photography in general. Would there be any
interest for such here?
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
I like the idea of evaluating each picture. On Olympus they have
points for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th and then add up the points.
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
--
Léon
http://www.pbase.com/loud/
 
Ok, let's do this! I'll work on getting a web page set up this
weekend. In the mean time, let's figure out how we're going to do
it - please reply to this if you have feedback on any of the items
below:

1) I figure we'll have a time period to submit photos (two weeks,
maybe?) then a shorter voting period after that. Sound ok?
Initially, we'll set up some guidelines for photo size, file size,
etc., then submissions can be emailed to me (more on that when we
get it going).
Good ideas.
2) Should the submissions be visible to everyone as I receive them,
or all at once, at the end of the submission period?
I think a batch method would be best. Everyone would know when the voting period starts, could log on and see all the photos before voting.
3) Should the names of the people submitting the photos be posted
with the photos during voting, or displayed after voting is
complete?
I think it would be best if voting was done without knowledge of the photographer, but we should not burden you or anyone else running the show with too much complexity (use of your time).
4) Should voting be done by choosing one, or by ranking top 5 or
something like that?
I like rank top five. This would need the batch display/vote method from #1, above.
After voting is complete, the web page will display the results,
who voted for what, etc.
If a ranking system were used (1 to 5 stars, for example) you could then post just the total number of stars received. This would be pretty simple.
Thanks for your work on this and fujimugs

Timothy Dunnigan
http://www.helpforfamilies.com/photos/index.htm
http://www.pbase.com/tdunnigan/
On the Olympus Form they do Challenges. They seem to be a lot of
fun and the people that participate say that they learn things
about their cameras and photography in general. Would there be any
interest for such here?
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
 
Ok, let's do this! I'll work on getting a web page set up this
weekend. In the mean time, let's figure out how we're going to do
it - please reply to this if you have feedback on any of the items
below:
Good idea, and thanks for organizing the web site!
1) I figure we'll have a time period to submit photos (two weeks,
maybe?) then a shorter voting period after that. Sound ok?
Initially, we'll set up some guidelines for photo size, file size,
etc., then submissions can be emailed to me (more on that when we
get it going).
If we email them, yes we should limit the size. It will also reduce the advantage of the 602ers over the people using smaller ccds!
2) Should the submissions be visible to everyone as I receive them,
or all at once, at the end of the submission period?
All at the same time, especially if we adopt a best 5 voting system!
3) Should the names of the people submitting the photos be posted
with the photos during voting, or displayed after voting is
complete?
You can keep them hidden, it doen't hurt!
4) Should voting be done by choosing one, or by ranking top 5 or
something like that?
Top 5 ranking is a good idea.
After voting is complete, the web page will display the results,
who voted for what, etc.
I'm looking forward to the first challenge. For me, you can do mountains, the ocean, or even the desert! We got it all here in Oregon!

Henri
 
Ok, let's do this! I'll work on getting a web page set up this
weekend. In the mean time, let's figure out how we're going to do
it - please reply to this if you have feedback on any of the items
below:

1) I figure we'll have a time period to submit photos (two weeks,
maybe?) then a shorter voting period after that. Sound ok?
Initially, we'll set up some guidelines for photo size, file size,
etc., then submissions can be emailed to me (more on that when we
get it going).
yes on time periods, 800x600 is good.
2) Should the submissions be visible to everyone as I receive them,
or all at once, at the end of the submission period?
All together, will prevent concerns of copied ideas.
3) Should the names of the people submitting the photos be posted
with the photos during voting, or displayed after voting is
complete?
after voting, prevents voting for favourite forum members
4) Should voting be done by choosing one, or by ranking top 5 or
something like that?
either of above but not a vote for all please, could get too time consuming.
After voting is complete, the web page will display the results,
who voted for what, etc.
happy with that.
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously that match the brief?
--
regards, Mark: )

http://www.pbase.com/mark_allen/galleries
 
Good question. It doesn't matter to me. Any thoughts out there?

And, let's come up with some ideas for the first subject.

Since I'll have a couple weeks to gather the submissions and create the voting scheme, we can start the first challenge/contest just about as soon as we decide on a subject.

Should we follow what was mentioned from another forum, where the winner chooses the next subject?

Dan
Dan Wolf wrote:
[snip]
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
 
Good question. It doesn't matter to me. Any thoughts out there?

And, let's come up with some ideas for the first subject.
Low light photos.(This could demonstrate the skills of some of our forum members and help those struggling with this issue.)
Since I'll have a couple weeks to gather the submissions and create
the voting scheme, we can start the first challenge/contest just
about as soon as we decide on a subject.

Should we follow what was mentioned from another forum, where the
winner chooses the next subject?
I like this idea. Also that we have an archive of winner's shots.
Dan
Dan Wolf wrote:
[snip]
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
 
Great Idee, count me in.

The only question I have is : does it matter which model fuji you have ?
And can you use extra flash material.

Thanx
Good question. It doesn't matter to me. Any thoughts out there?

And, let's come up with some ideas for the first subject.
Low light photos.(This could demonstrate the skills of some of our
forum members and help those struggling with this issue.)
Since I'll have a couple weeks to gather the submissions and create
the voting scheme, we can start the first challenge/contest just
about as soon as we decide on a subject.

Should we follow what was mentioned from another forum, where the
winner chooses the next subject?
I like this idea. Also that we have an archive of winner's shots.
Dan
Dan Wolf wrote:
[snip]
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
 
The only question I have is : does it matter which model fuji you
have ?
And can you use extra flash material.
Camera model shouldnt matter unless there are some 602 owners that dont want to loose to a 1300 :) Just kidding.

Anyone want to take a poke at creating a small FAQ.

External Flash should be ok unless we want to keep this a solely stock camera challenge.

We shouldnt allow major post production edits, USM, brightness / color Levels, BW are fine as long as they're performed on the entire image. Spot editing shouldnt be allowed.

I think we all know each other well enough that we can trust each other, but we could retain EXIF data in our shots if we need to.

BTW - Low Light would be a brilliant (no pun intended) challenge.

Ed
--
http://www.pbase.com/eddyb
 
Good question. It doesn't matter to me. Any thoughts out there?

And, let's come up with some ideas for the first subject.
Low light photos.(This could demonstrate the skills of some of our
forum members and help those struggling with this issue.)
Since I'll have a couple weeks to gather the submissions and create
the voting scheme, we can start the first challenge/contest just
about as soon as we decide on a subject.

Should we follow what was mentioned from another forum, where the
winner chooses the next subject?
I like this idea. Also that we have an archive of winner's shots.
Dan
Dan Wolf wrote:
[snip]
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
I think the pictures should be taken during the time of the Challenge.
I think any Fuji should do.
Any lighting or flash or for that matter any lens or filter should be okay.
I like the idea of the winner picking the next Challenge
I also like the idea of minimal post processing.
The low light would be a good starter too.

What ever we decide we can always change if it doesn't work.
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
 
I agree, Any Fuji camera should do. Why not let the winner decide the next topic. That could be the extra bonus for winning.
Michael
Good question. It doesn't matter to me. Any thoughts out there?

And, let's come up with some ideas for the first subject.
Low light photos.(This could demonstrate the skills of some of our
forum members and help those struggling with this issue.)
Since I'll have a couple weeks to gather the submissions and create
the voting scheme, we can start the first challenge/contest just
about as soon as we decide on a subject.

Should we follow what was mentioned from another forum, where the
winner chooses the next subject?
I like this idea. Also that we have an archive of winner's shots.
Dan
Dan Wolf wrote:
[snip]
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
I think the pictures should be taken during the time of the Challenge.
I think any Fuji should do.
Any lighting or flash or for that matter any lens or filter should
be okay.
I like the idea of the winner picking the next Challenge
I also like the idea of minimal post processing.
The low light would be a good starter too.

What ever we decide we can always change if it doesn't work.
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan

Visit the S602Z FAQ:
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
 
Sounds like good fun. When do we start? Living in Cape Town we have all types of scenary, but perhaps Macro or low- light pics could be interesting.
Best regards
John
On the Olympus Form they do Challenges. They seem to be a lot of
fun and the people that participate say that they learn things
about their cameras and photography in general. Would there be any
interest for such here?
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
Sounds like fun! Never did that in 1.5 years here...

Just don't use mountains for a challenge, none of those in this
country :-)

btw, I'm for anonymous contributions until it's over.

--
Regards, Mark

Albums: http://community.webshots.com/user/marksfinepix
602 miscellaneous shots: http://www.pbase.com/markspix
--
John
 
Hi,

I think this idea is fun. Thanks Peggy, for starting.

The only remark I want to make is about the time frame: it is not allways possible in two weeks to take the picture you want, for instance when weather conditions are bad. And then you discover you have the wanted picture, but you took it two months ago?? I'd rather see you just could send in any photo, why not? The same goes for editing the picture: the only thing that counts for me is the final result, and if you can achieve that by clever editing, why not?? We all could learn from that.

Looking forward for the first subject!

--
Regards,
Tom
(FinePix S602z)
http://clik.to/tomcee
http://www.pbase.com/tomcee

S602Z FAQ:
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
 
Tom makes an excellent point.

I now live in the far south west of Ireland, but travel extensively. I have shots taken in a wide range of places/of a wide range of subjects but I couldn't guarantee to be able to take, say, a city type shot in a given time frame neither, given the weather here, could I necessarily take a shot requiring a type of light or weather - example - "white weather" winter shots are virtually impossible here yet, this morning it is -5C and the ground is white at 10.45. Ordinarily, winter shots to order involve travelling out of the country.

I appreciate the idea of a challenge is to go out and hunt down a given type of shot in a given period but the wider the geographical range of the potential contestants, the harder this becomes for a percentage of those wishing to participate.

I would suggest that the only limits are those of camera manufacturer and ownership of the shot with a limit of the photo being taken no more than, say 18 months before (but how do you prove date if EXIF info hasn't been saved?).

PhilB
Hi,

I think this idea is fun. Thanks Peggy, for starting.
The only remark I want to make is about the time frame: it is not
allways possible in two weeks to take the picture you want, for
instance when weather conditions are bad. And then you discover you
have the wanted picture, but you took it two months ago?? I'd
rather see you just could send in any photo, why not? The same goes
for editing the picture: the only thing that counts for me is the
final result, and if you can achieve that by clever editing, why
not?? We all could learn from that.

Looking forward for the first subject!

--
Regards,
Tom
(FinePix S602z)
http://clik.to/tomcee
http://www.pbase.com/tomcee

S602Z FAQ:
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
--
PhilB
 
I like the idea! count me in also

I would be maybe good idea that poster is able to see only his/hers picture - to avoid even slightest chance of copiing, and of course, to emphasize the thrill :)

And I would like the voting for first 5 shots - sometimes is very difficult to choose favourite :)

alex
Ok, let's do this! I'll work on getting a web page set up this
weekend. In the mean time, let's figure out how we're going to do
it - please reply to this if you have feedback on any of the items
below:

1) I figure we'll have a time period to submit photos (two weeks,
maybe?) then a shorter voting period after that. Sound ok?
Initially, we'll set up some guidelines for photo size, file size,
etc., then submissions can be emailed to me (more on that when we
get it going).
yes on time periods, 800x600 is good.
2) Should the submissions be visible to everyone as I receive them,
or all at once, at the end of the submission period?
All together, will prevent concerns of copied ideas.
3) Should the names of the people submitting the photos be posted
with the photos during voting, or displayed after voting is
complete?
after voting, prevents voting for favourite forum members
4) Should voting be done by choosing one, or by ranking top 5 or
something like that?
either of above but not a vote for all please, could get too time
consuming.
After voting is complete, the web page will display the results,
who voted for what, etc.
happy with that.
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
--
regards, Mark: )

http://www.pbase.com/mark_allen/galleries
 
This sounds like fun! Low light photos sounds like a good topic to start with and I also like having the winner choosing the next topic.

Any photo taken by a Fuji can enter and I prefer to not have to take the pictures during a specified time frame. I think its too restrictive. Adding enhancements in Photoshop, etc. doesn't bother me either. That's a part of your creativity.

Pam
http://www.pbase.com/pam_b
Good question. It doesn't matter to me. Any thoughts out there?

And, let's come up with some ideas for the first subject.
Low light photos.(This could demonstrate the skills of some of our
forum members and help those struggling with this issue.)
Since I'll have a couple weeks to gather the submissions and create
the voting scheme, we can start the first challenge/contest just
about as soon as we decide on a subject.

Should we follow what was mentioned from another forum, where the
winner chooses the next subject?
I like this idea. Also that we have an archive of winner's shots.
Dan
Dan Wolf wrote:
[snip]
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
 
Ok, let's do this! I'll work on getting a web page set up this
weekend. In the mean time, let's figure out how we're going to do
it - please reply to this if you have feedback on any of the items
below:

1) I figure we'll have a time period to submit photos (two weeks,
maybe?) then a shorter voting period after that. Sound ok?
Initially, we'll set up some guidelines for photo size, file size,
etc., then submissions can be emailed to me (more on that when we
get it going).
yes on time periods, 800x600 is good, or 1024x768 max
2) Should the submissions be visible to everyone as I receive them,
or all at once, at the end of the submission period?
All together, will prevent concerns of copied ideas. Yep agree
3) Should the names of the people submitting the photos be posted
with the photos during voting, or displayed after voting is
complete?
after voting, prevents voting for favourite forum members, agree again
4) Should voting be done by choosing one, or by ranking top 5 or
something like that?
either of above but not a vote for all please, could get too time

consuming. Choose one and vote for it, Easier and therefore encourage more people to vote
After voting is complete, the web page will display the results,
who voted for what, etc.
happy with that.
What have I missed?
Do we want to stipulate that the shota are taken during the time
period specified, as DPChallenge or allow shots taken previously
that match the brief?
Finaly, a big thanks to Dan for offering to provide the service, what a player!!!

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
Fuji Forum Mugshot at http://wolfdev.com/fujimugs/
Gallery at http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
I now live in the far south west of Ireland, but travel
extensively. I have shots taken in a wide range of places/of a
wide range of subjects but I couldn't guarantee to be able to take,
say, a city type shot in a given time frame neither, given the
weather here, could I necessarily take a shot requiring a type of
light or weather - example - "white weather" winter shots are
virtually impossible here yet, this morning it is -5C and the
ground is white at 10.45. Ordinarily, winter shots to order
involve travelling out of the country.

I appreciate the idea of a challenge is to go out and hunt down a
given type of shot in a given period but the wider the geographical
range of the potential contestants, the harder this becomes for a
percentage of those wishing to participate.

I would suggest that the only limits are those of camera
manufacturer and ownership of the shot with a limit of the photo
being taken no more than, say 18 months before (but how do you
prove date if EXIF info hasn't been saved?).

PhilB
Hi,

I think this idea is fun. Thanks Peggy, for starting.
The only remark I want to make is about the time frame: it is not
allways possible in two weeks to take the picture you want, for
instance when weather conditions are bad. And then you discover you
have the wanted picture, but you took it two months ago?? I'd
rather see you just could send in any photo, why not? The same goes
for editing the picture: the only thing that counts for me is the
final result, and if you can achieve that by clever editing, why
not?? We all could learn from that.

Looking forward for the first subject!

--
Regards,
Tom
(FinePix S602z)
http://clik.to/tomcee
http://www.pbase.com/tomcee

S602Z FAQ:
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
--
PhilB
I understand what you are saying about the time thing but I still think it would be more fun to have the pictures taken with in a certain time period of the challenge. Care would need to be given when choosing a subject for the challenge. Things like snow or palm trees would not work but if you chose “Tree” it could be a huge tree in a forest in California or a Bonsai tree inside your house in a totally different part of the world. Not every subject will catch everyone's interest. If you use pictures that you have already taken someone will know that it is yours. I know if I get a really nice shot I am so happy that I share it with the world.
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
 
I didn't check all the replies to your post, but just wanted to let you know we do it as well in the sony forum and are now on challenge 33.

Have a look at http://www.pbase.com/stfchallenge

And yes, it is great fun and learning, very addictive.

Willem
On the Olympus Form they do Challenges. They seem to be a lot of
fun and the people that participate say that they learn things
about their cameras and photography in general. Would there be any
interest for such here?
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
 
We're almost ready. Thanks to Peggy for kicking this off, and thanks to everyone for all the suggestions!

I created a new domain - http://www.fujimugs.com . This site has the mugshots, and will host the challenges (hopefully we will have many from here on out).

Please browse to http://www.fujimugs.com , click on the "Challenges" link, read the rules, and let me know what I'm missing or what should be changed.

If there are no major problems with the rules, I think we can begin the first challenge tomorrow (Sunday). I'll get more info on the web site, and post a new forum topic when it starts.

It seems that the only thing up for debate is if photos must be taken during the challenge period, or if older photos can be used. Maybe we can leave that up to whoever picks the subject - they can also decide if photos must be taken during the submission period, or if older ones can be used. Any thoughts?

Dan
http://www.fujimugs.com
http://www.pbase.com/dan_wolf
On the Olympus Form they do Challenges. They seem to be a lot of
fun and the people that participate say that they learn things
about their cameras and photography in general. Would there be any
interest for such here?
--
Peggy Lawrey

http://www.pbase.com/palawrey/
 
On the Olympus Form they do Challenges. They seem to be a lot of
fun and the people that participate say that they learn things
about their cameras and photography in general. Would there be any
interest for such here?
Rather than reply to a specific post, I'll reply to the opening one, although I've been watching it through. I like this idea very much. I think submissions should be secret during voting and an 800 x 600 format would suit all models of Fuji and be a good size to judge from and easy to view and download - for many of us, that's a screenful and allows the view to be seen in it's entirety - some of the larger posted images are hard to appreciate if you have to keep scrolling to see them all.

I like the idea of a low light subject matter for the first, although I'm not keen on the idea of taking the photos within a specified time frame of the challenge. With work commitments etc., that doesn't give long for creativity etc. a matter of months of weeks would seem much better to me, so you can submit an image you're already proud of. I like the idea of rating the top 5, I suspcet it would be impossible to choose only one winner, but that makes it harder for whoever is compiling the voting results.

Bring it on!

--
Fuji S602Z and 2800Z
http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/
 

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