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If you could only have one: omd em5 or 12-35 2.8 lens
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Michael Kaufman
Senior Member
No offense, but its a stupid question.
If I didn't own any photographic equipment already, both would be a waste of money.
If I had a camera but no lens, the lens would probably be a better choice. Conversely, if I only owned a lens, I would probably get the body.
Without having a context, of what possibly meaning could this question have?
Here's an answer. I already own an E-M5, so for me, the 12-35 is a much better buy.
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Aleo Veuliah
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- That is a simple question, I have no doubts
- I would choose the lens, lens are almost eternal, cameras become a bit obsolete after a few time, and that lens should be wonderful to use and very good on image quality, 12-35mm and 35-100mm f/2.8 are on my list
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Ollie 2
Senior Member
You are aware that one of those items is not a camera?
Anyway, I’ll pick the weekend away on the Gold Coast with the blonde hostess.
Anyway, I’ll pick the weekend away on the Gold Coast with the blonde hostess.
...if you had a micro 4/3 camera and lens today.
Granted, he still didn't give enough info to make a good choice but if it were me and I have any prior Olympus camera and kit lens, I'm picking up the E-M5 because I do think it's that much better than the older ones. If I have a newer model Panasonic, GH2, G3 or GX1, I'm keeping my camera and picking up the 12-35.
I picked up a body only E-M5 (originally wanted the 12-50 kit but I had the opportunity to get the body only and took it) so I'm going to go for the 12-35 as soon as it's available. Very much looking forward to that lens, hope it lives up to most peoples expectations.
PapaRappa
Granted, he still didn't give enough info to make a good choice but if it were me and I have any prior Olympus camera and kit lens, I'm picking up the E-M5 because I do think it's that much better than the older ones. If I have a newer model Panasonic, GH2, G3 or GX1, I'm keeping my camera and picking up the 12-35.
I picked up a body only E-M5 (originally wanted the 12-50 kit but I had the opportunity to get the body only and took it) so I'm going to go for the 12-35 as soon as it's available. Very much looking forward to that lens, hope it lives up to most peoples expectations.
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gteague
Senior Member
a very germane question for some and exactly apropos to my current situation.
i have a gx1 which is practically new and a few lenses for it. my plan was to carry the gx1 with the 20/1.7 & the oly 9-18 to cover low light and ultra-wide to wide without needing any stabilization.
but i also got the oly 12/2.0 with the idea of getting the em5 and the 45/1.8 (or perhaps the new 60 or 75) so i could have a stabilized body for tele work.
but if the new rumored panasonic lenses are compact and have stabilization and the 35-150mm comes in at under f4 at the long end (it's hard to believe a 300/2.8 equivalent would be less than $1500-2000 based on nikon ff pricing), then it would be a hard choice to spend my money on a 2nd body when i could have one body and 4 lenses:
9-18/4
20/1.7
12-35/2.8
35-150/2.8
which would cover everything but macro and at good speeds to boot, but considering if i could get both new panasonic lenses at the same price as the em5 with grip, around $1300.
it's always very nice to have two bodies (much more so back in the film days, of course), but those lenses would make for a very flexible system indeed. and if the quality of the 12-35/2.8 is effectively the same or better than the oly 12/2 then i could recoup a good chunk of change by selling it considering it was nearly as expensive as the em5 body itself.
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i have a gx1 which is practically new and a few lenses for it. my plan was to carry the gx1 with the 20/1.7 & the oly 9-18 to cover low light and ultra-wide to wide without needing any stabilization.
but i also got the oly 12/2.0 with the idea of getting the em5 and the 45/1.8 (or perhaps the new 60 or 75) so i could have a stabilized body for tele work.
but if the new rumored panasonic lenses are compact and have stabilization and the 35-150mm comes in at under f4 at the long end (it's hard to believe a 300/2.8 equivalent would be less than $1500-2000 based on nikon ff pricing), then it would be a hard choice to spend my money on a 2nd body when i could have one body and 4 lenses:
9-18/4
20/1.7
12-35/2.8
35-150/2.8
which would cover everything but macro and at good speeds to boot, but considering if i could get both new panasonic lenses at the same price as the em5 with grip, around $1300.
it's always very nice to have two bodies (much more so back in the film days, of course), but those lenses would make for a very flexible system indeed. and if the quality of the 12-35/2.8 is effectively the same or better than the oly 12/2 then i could recoup a good chunk of change by selling it considering it was nearly as expensive as the em5 body itself.
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I have
gf1
14mm 2.5
20mm 1.7
25mm 1.4
My mind says omd ( silver body )
but my heart says 12-35mm 2.8 ( I would sell the 14 mm ).
I left the questionopen ended. I should have said "with your current gear would you get the omd or the pana lens if you could only afford one this year"
gf1
14mm 2.5
20mm 1.7
25mm 1.4
My mind says omd ( silver body )
but my heart says 12-35mm 2.8 ( I would sell the 14 mm ).
I left the questionopen ended. I should have said "with your current gear would you get the omd or the pana lens if you could only afford one this year"
Cheers, geoff
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The lens, based on my perception that camera technology is improving much more rapidly than lens technology. Also, that's a lens I'm eager to own (that plus a 35-100/2.8 and a wider zoom would be a lovely combination).
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Tim in upstate NY
Veteran Member
. . . I understood your question and that you have a restricted budget. I'd probably go with my heart and get the OM-D but my head would be telling me to get the 12-35/2.8. It's not an easy choice.
Adventsam
Senior Member
Dont sell that 14mm just yet, add the new converter and you have an 11mm 2.5 that focus's down to 5 inch's or so, its addictive! If you add the GH2 you'll be at 10mm in 16:9 ratio btw with the 14mm with converter and the 12-35 too will aprox 22-66 for video and 16:9 a little more in 3:2 ratio.
Honestly, the GH2 is an absolute bargain now and with the 12-35mm is a great combo, but form factor may not suit you if you like gf1 but dont expect the 12-35 to be small.
Honestly, the GH2 is an absolute bargain now and with the 12-35mm is a great combo, but form factor may not suit you if you like gf1 but dont expect the 12-35 to be small.
Depends if you feel you're lacking something with your current lenses. If it was me, i would sell 14mm, 20mm and maybe could salvage something out of gf1 body too. And get G3/G5/GF5 and 12-35mm. Those bodies are/will be far cheaper than a EM-5. And who knows, maybe G5 can even beat IQ of EM-5 at a lower price point.
What is it in EM5 that you are not getting from GF1? If you are genuinely missing opportunities due to limitations in the camera, its a no-brainer really. Get the EM5.
OTOH, although 12-35 has the makings of a good lens, its optical performance is not established yet. You seem to have most of the FL covered albeit in a less than convenient form-factor (prime vs zoom, so more hassle changing the lenses). Also, the quality of the lenses you own are already well known. If you get the lens, you are going to get one more (reportedly) high quality lens. However, this will be of absolutely no use to you, if you use it on a camera body that is not delivering for what you want to shoot.
So the question you should really be asking is - Are you really looking to upgrade from GF1? If yes, get the EM5. If no, what is in 12-35 that your current lenses dont have?
My 2p of course.
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Olympus EM-5, 45/1.8, 20/1.7, 11-22, 50mm
For sale: EP2, VF2, 14-42, E510, 14-42, 40-150
Considering PL 25/1.4, m9-18
OTOH, although 12-35 has the makings of a good lens, its optical performance is not established yet. You seem to have most of the FL covered albeit in a less than convenient form-factor (prime vs zoom, so more hassle changing the lenses). Also, the quality of the lenses you own are already well known. If you get the lens, you are going to get one more (reportedly) high quality lens. However, this will be of absolutely no use to you, if you use it on a camera body that is not delivering for what you want to shoot.
So the question you should really be asking is - Are you really looking to upgrade from GF1? If yes, get the EM5. If no, what is in 12-35 that your current lenses dont have?
My 2p of course.
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Krishnan
Olympus EM-5, 45/1.8, 20/1.7, 11-22, 50mm
For sale: EP2, VF2, 14-42, E510, 14-42, 40-150
Considering PL 25/1.4, m9-18
Michael Kaufman
Senior Member
MichaelKJ
Senior Member
That's what I would call an offensive response.
MichaelKJ
Senior Member
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/09/Panasonic_Converterlenses
I don't think they are available yet - $130 for the wide angle.
I don't think they are available yet - $130 for the wide angle.
MichaelKJ
Senior Member
Difficult decision. It is safe to say that the E-M5 will be upgraded before the 12-35 and that the 12-35 will retain its value longer.
By the time the 12-35 is available we may know more about the GH3. I also think the 12-35 may be offered at a discount as the GH3 kit, which would make it even more attractive (although obviously over your budget).
By the time the 12-35 is available we may know more about the GH3. I also think the 12-35 may be offered at a discount as the GH3 kit, which would make it even more attractive (although obviously over your budget).
.Sam.
Senior Member
Lenses over the bodies...
Excellence over meritocracy...
You already have the 14,20,25... I would sell the 20 and buy the Oly45 (almost even money) and call it the day, until the waters settle ;-)
Maybe later in the summer, you can decide on the bodies. By that time the G5, and GH3 would also be in the picture and you can decide on the "right" body for your use.
So that you know, GF1 RAW+ Lightroom4, and the Oly 45 is "Pretty" good combination ;-)
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.Sam.
E-M5/GF1+20+45 & Pentax K20D - ist* DS - ZX-5 - LX
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/shadzee/
Excellence over meritocracy...
You already have the 14,20,25... I would sell the 20 and buy the Oly45 (almost even money) and call it the day, until the waters settle ;-)
Maybe later in the summer, you can decide on the bodies. By that time the G5, and GH3 would also be in the picture and you can decide on the "right" body for your use.
So that you know, GF1 RAW+ Lightroom4, and the Oly 45 is "Pretty" good combination ;-)
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.Sam.
E-M5/GF1+20+45 & Pentax K20D - ist* DS - ZX-5 - LX
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/shadzee/
Graham Gibson
Leading Member
Kind of a weird question, but I would just go for the E-M5 with 12-50. It's not THAT much slower than the upcoming Panasonic. Honestly, I feel that the upcoming Panasonic 35-100 f2.8 is much more useful to have with the wide aperture.
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