A99 - why 24mp only?

GodSpeaks · May 16, 2012

BMWX5 said:
SAR was 85%-90% right about the A77 rumor specs and design! ;-)

You do realize that Sony was feeding them information to drive interest in the camera... right?

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flbdig · May 16, 2012

In reality this a99 camera is more a target for the D4 shooting type with the rumored AF and frame rate.

And of course Sony will make a camera with a more Meg but the reality is these camera are better then the skill set, current lenses, storage capability or technique of most photographers. what do you shoot that you need more mpex for?

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GodSpeaks · May 16, 2012

winedarksea said:
They will arrive at the same time, if there is any truth to the Nikon rumor.

Nikon will be first, and Sony second. second by how much is the big question. I'm thinking months.

winedarksea said:
Furthermore, it seems more and more likely that Sony and Nikon are coordinating their marketing efforts against their common competitors.

Don't think so. I see absolutely nothing to support that hypothesis.

winedarksea said:
--whereas all of the SLT design limitations will be overcome very soon.

Yes, indeed. When Sony abandons it.

Seriously, SLT is a stop gap design. Once PDAF on sensor gets perfected, then SLT goes in the bin.

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seilerbird666 · May 16, 2012

winedarksea said:
So are all of the extraordinarily many purchasers of the D800 among "a few massively deluded people"? There obviously IS a megapixel race, although there are other "races" as well among the camera makers.

They are only massively deluded if they actually think their is a megapixel race. If there is one then why did it take 4 years for someone to release a camera with more than 24 megapixels? The a900 came out in 2008 and so did the D3X. That just doesn't sound like any kind of a race to me. And why hasn't Canon, the world leader in DSLR sales come out with anything bigger than 24 mp? What is your proof there is a race going on?
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AmaturFotografer · May 16, 2012

I think A99 is intended to compete with D4 instead of D800. With 12fps (hopefully it has larger than A77 memory buffer), full time AF, large number of focus points, full time PDAF + CDAF for object tracking... it should be a good fast action camera.

Kappels · May 17, 2012

I thought Sony was to bring out two models? One with 36mps, similar to the D800 and one with 24mps, with the latter being the first one in September and the former at the beginning of 2013?
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clarkt · May 17, 2012

neo_nights said:
Well, more megapixels means larger files, more CPU power needed to handle those files (as well as bigger memory cards and hard disks), less batery life, less frames per second and so on. Also, in theory, worse high ISO.

I applaud Sony for staying with "only" 24mp this time. Let's see how the rest works out.

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Archer66 · May 17, 2012

GodSpeaks said:
BMWX5 said:

SAR was 85%-90% right about the A77 rumor specs and design! ;-)

Click to expand...

You do realize that Sony was feeding them information to drive interest in the camera... right?

Paranoid much ?

epsilon sigma taph · May 17, 2012

Well as a portrait photographer even 6mp megapixels will do me. If you shoot landscapes you'd want more. So why not bring out two or three models with different pixel counts. They do it for APSC cameras so there's no reason they can't do it for full frames.

tqlla · May 17, 2012

I thought the reason for no 36MP camera is the exclusivity agreement between Sony and Nikon. I would expect a 36MP camera next year.

If Sony makes the price competitive with the D600, then its a good buy. However, if its closer to the D800 in price, then Sony = crazy.

tqlla · May 17, 2012

There is a lot to like about SLTs, and its more than just good autofocus during video.
1) No mirror slap = quieter operation
2) View information in the EVF while taking photos.
3) Hispeed continous autofocus shooting.

GodSpeaks said:
winedarksea said:

They will arrive at the same time, if there is any truth to the Nikon rumor.

Click to expand...

Nikon will be first, and Sony second. second by how much is the big question. I'm thinking months.

GodSpeaks said:

Furthermore, it seems more and more likely that Sony and Nikon are coordinating their marketing efforts against their common competitors.

Click to expand...

Don't think so. I see absolutely nothing to support that hypothesis.

GodSpeaks said:

--whereas all of the SLT design limitations will be overcome very soon.

Click to expand...

Yes, indeed. When Sony abandons it.

Seriously, SLT is a stop gap design. Once PDAF on sensor gets perfected, then SLT goes in the bin.

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barri · May 17, 2012

BMWX5 said:
when D800 is 36mp. Will this affect the sales of A99 since it is not king of MP race?

I find those 36 MP of the D800 rather a reason not to get that camera. It seems from the expected specs that the A99 will be rather geared towards good high ISO and SPEED ! not those low frame rates and average AF from the D800, but a 102 point AF and likely some 10+ frames/s. 36 MP will only cause you a headache of finding good enough lenses. If you want insane resolution, get medium format.

I am pretty excited about the rumoured A99 specs. Way to go Sony !

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Guido FORRIER · May 17, 2012

"the A99 will be rather geared towards good high ISO and SPEED"

yes and the Nikon has already a speedy machine : D4
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7799914638/nikon-d4-overview

ok it has OVF and i like more the Sony way with evf but a lot of people are conservative and pro's need a camera NOW ! TODAY ! not tomorrow .
coming always later then Nikon , Sony will always stay behind Cannikon
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TrojMacReady · May 17, 2012

GodSpeaks said:
Seriously, SLT is a stop gap design. Once PDAF on sensor gets perfected, then SLT goes in the bin.

Assuming it can be. To get PDAF on sensor to work well in low light you'd still have to sacrifice up to 1/3 of all the pixels on the mains sensor to gather that amount of light for the PDAF sensors. Which in effect means you inherit the worst downside of the SLT mirror: half a stop light loss.

nenoanen · May 17, 2012

Want more megapixels? Get a Nokia 808.

rhlpetrus · May 17, 2012

Nikonrumors has posted an 80% probable rumor of a D600, FF at 24MP, coming this Summer. Also says it will carry a Sony Exmor. I like the idea of 24MP, only - point is that it will not be non-AA like D800E. Maybe Sony will do it. (I'm already invested in Nikon, so no other mount for me at this point).
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aminucyrus · May 18, 2012

nenoanen said:
Want more megapixels? Get a Nokia 808.

With a Carl Zeiss lens, how sweet

CyrusK · May 18, 2012

I think Sony has to make a clear separation between the intended two FF cameras.
Really two different market targets and usage

We had a lot of very close products in the past (just by downgrading one of the models and removing soft features):
A900/A850
A580/A560
A33/A55
A65/A77

There is really a lot of confusion about these FF rumours...
On the beginning I thought:
A99: 24 mpx (vs D4 / 1DX)
A88: 36 mpx (vs D800 / 5DIII)

Then came this rumour of A99 as cheap as possible and similar body than A77
Then D600 rumour as cheap as possible with similar 24mpx.

Perhaps Sony has to target 3 models:
24Mpx High end with integrated VG
36Mpx successor of A900/A850
24Mpx (or similar), small body, entry level

Old Ed · May 18, 2012

Photomonkey · May 18, 2012

tqlla said:
There is a lot to like about SLTs, and its more than just good autofocus during video.
1) No mirror slap = quieter operation

As a person who has been looking at the SLT design for a bit, I am very disappointed that they have not taken advantage of the absence of a flipping mirror to QUIET THE DARN CAMERA!

I shot a Nikon D7000 nest to an A55 and the Nikon was significantly quieter despite the flipping mirror. For me video is not of much interest but silent wedding venue operation is.

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