OM-D. Silver or Black? OMG, this is so difficult!

Rebekka78 said:

maflynn said:

I was in the same quandry when I was called by my camera store. I reserved a black one, but a silver one came in. After some mulling I opted for the silver and to be honest, I've not regretted it. The silver really looks slick, its a great looking camera with the silver

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That's funny. I ordered a silver one. Today I saw that the black one was available and the silver wasn't. So I changed my order to the black one. I should be getting it tomorrow.

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Clearly, Olympus needs to start selling these cameras in an E-M5 two-pack which includes one silver body and one black body, but with just one accessory port flash, one battery, and one charger.

T3 said:

T3 said:

That's funny. I ordered a silver one. Today I saw that the black one was available and the silver wasn't. So I changed my order to the black one. I should be getting it tomorrow.

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Clearly, Olympus needs to start selling these cameras in an E-M5 two-pack which includes one silver body and one black body, but with just one accessory port flash, one battery, and one charger.

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Well, first I liked the black kit better...than I changed to silver....now I will be getting black. They shoudn't make two versions. I can't decide haha.

Doesn't matter. What matters is taking pictures. I sold my Canon 50D for this camera, so I hope it will live up to my expectations.
I am sure there will be a lot to learn.

Anders W said:

T3 said:

Anders, you're living in the past, judging things by past technologies, and showing prejudices based on outdated ideas! Clearly, you are showing your age! Time to join the 21st century. It's not the 1970's anymore. Today's paint technologies are far more advanced, efficient and durable than you seem to be aware of!

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Some of us have a good grip on things, present as well as past. Others just fly off the handle.

Anders W said:

The following are all examples of chrome or silver powdercoat paint finishes. Some of these items may look like they are plated, but they are not plated! They are all examples of modern powdercoat painting, each and every one of them.

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Kind of you take the time to show me things I already know, but, to be honest, you might have saved yourself the trouble.

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More like, "Cripes, I didn't know any of that! I feel embarrassed that someone had to school me on modern powdercoat applications! My only recourse is to foolishly and immaturely accuse him of flying off the handle for showing me all these example of modern-day silver, chrome, and black powdercoating!" LOL.

Guess which one of these is finished in powdercoat silver paint? Yep, both of them are. Oh, but you already knew that , right?

I liked the look of the silver as I mulled it over, but ultimately I opted for the one in stock. I was told that the black ones should arrive the following week but I didn't want to take a chance - bird in the hand type of thing.

In any event even now as the blacks are rolling in, I'm very happy with it, and I have no regrets in opting for the silver.

Mike

Rebekka78 said:

maflynn said:

I was in the same quandry when I was called by my camera store. I reserved a black one, but a silver one came in. After some mulling I opted for the silver and to be honest, I've not regretted it. The silver really looks slick, its a great looking camera with the silver

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That's funny. I ordered a silver one. Today I saw that the black one was available and the silver wasn't. So I changed my order to the black one. I should be getting it tomorrow.

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I'm decided, black looks very cool - even with the silver lenses.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/04/19/very-1st-look-video-at-the-olympus-om-d-e-m5-review-soon/

Also, the un-boxing video used to taunt Louis recently.

http://youtu.be/DTsqR8pDdXU

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Same here, the Huff video cinched it for me. Gone back and forth maybe five times, but basic black it is...

Brian Mosley said:

I'm decided, black looks very cool - even with the silver lenses.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/04/19/very-1st-look-video-at-the-olympus-om-d-e-m5-review-soon/

Also, the un-boxing video used to taunt Louis recently.

http://youtu.be/DTsqR8pDdXU

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Having originally ordered black - then switched and received silver, I can say:

• No regrets on switching - the silver looks like a piece of engineering art, much much better in person than on photos / videos online. The sheen of the coating is very nice, smooth, and metallic feeling. It's a bit darker than online pictures indicate (probably because of reflection in photos). It definitely matches / surpasses the quality of the silver metal cameras of yore. It will not be mistaken for a silver painted plastic camera. Also, as you handle it in 3D - the camera isn't as retro as the front on shots indicate. It feels and looks quite modern (probably because most of the time you're looking at the back of it anyway).
• Yes - the video from Steve Huff show that the black is awesome as well. So you can't go wrong!

I'd suggest for those that have pre-ordered, stick it out for the color you think you wanted, and for those now trying to buy one to simply get the one you can find.

Thank you T3 !

Do you have any experience with that process ? did you already manage to reskin one of your cameras ? Taking the leatherette away doesn't sound so easy ! The video only show the skinning of a shiny E-Pm1 !

T3 said:

The "grip tape" is merely the textured grip material that you see on the E-M5 camera body (and many other cameras). It can be removed, and replaced by other "grip tape", like the ones sold by Aki Asahi, shown below. The "grip tape" is merely a textured material with a strong adhesive on the back. You pull it off, then replace it with a different one. Aki Asahi sells various grip tape kits in various textures, custom cut for specific camera models.

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T3 said:

You can see an example of "grip tape" being applied to a camera on youtube:

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T3 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuXKQad2W08

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DonovanDwyer said:

Same here, the Huff video cinched it for me. Gone back and forth maybe five times, but basic black it is...

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Think of it this way: whatever color you buy this time around, you can get the other color when the E-M6 comes out. Plus, when Aki Asahi starts selling coverings for the E-M5 in all kinds of different colors, textures, and patterns, you'll have even more style options for your camera!

T3 said:

Anders W said:

T3 said:

Anders, you're living in the past, judging things by past technologies, and showing prejudices based on outdated ideas! Clearly, you are showing your age! Time to join the 21st century. It's not the 1970's anymore. Today's paint technologies are far more advanced, efficient and durable than you seem to be aware of!

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Some of us have a good grip on things, present as well as past. Others just fly off the handle.

T3 said:

The following are all examples of chrome or silver powdercoat paint finishes. Some of these items may look like they are plated, but they are not plated! They are all examples of modern powdercoat painting, each and every one of them.

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Kind of you take the time to show me things I already know, but, to be honest, you might have saved yourself the trouble.

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More like, "Cripes, I didn't know any of that! I feel embarrassed that someone had to school me on modern powdercoat applications! My only recourse is to foolishly and immaturely accuse him of flying off the handle for showing me all these example of modern-day silver, chrome, and black powdercoating!" LOL.

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Always glad to entertain you. Apropos of your claim above that

plating costs a lot more, requires more steps, these steps require more caustic chemicals, and takes longer than modern paint processes

another question came to mind: If that's the case, how come I can get a chrome-plated tailpipe for my car for ten bucks or so?

Since you are so knowledgeable about these things, I am sure you can tell me the answer.

T3 said:

Guess which one of these is finished in powdercoat silver paint? Yep, both of them are. Oh, but you already knew that , right?

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It's only you who pretend to know things without a credible source to back up your claim. As I pointed out above, I assumed the "silver" version of the E-M5 was plated. You assumed it was painted. Neither of us know for sure at this stage, although you are of course free to pretend that you do.

Black has been found to overheat more quickly when shooting video in bright sunlight, stressing the internal electronics. It's also much easier to misplace in darkened clubs, many reports of them having been lost this way already.

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Like others, I secretly want both. You've done too nice of a job, Olympus!
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After deliberating, I pre-ordered silver since it was more casual and less "pro", but when the store I had pre-ordered with only got a single camera in their first shipment, and it didn't go to me, I decided to go looking for it in another store. I saw one store advertising having it in black only, and I decided that I actually preferred the clean look of the black, but would customise it with brown leather, to make it go better with silver lenses. But, when I got there the next day it was sold out. So, today I checked a few other stores and found a single one in silver ! I didn't dare hesitate, so I bought it in silver!

Maybe the next OM-D I'll get in black, so I can tell them apart, but for now, I'm content. I don't like that the hot shoe and the dials and shutter button are in black, but otherwise it looks very fine, and the silver top and bottom has a nice finish, regardless how the paint was applied.

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I had the same reaction - for some reason, pictures of the black color scheme don't do it justice. When I saw it in the video - and with the silver prime - I thought, wow, this thing is gorgeous.

But as much as I previously liked the silver scheme in the front, I always thought the black looked better in the back - you know, where I spend most of time with the camera...

You made think of another point for black... Black is so easy to touch up. Silver, on the other hand....

Anders W said:

Always glad to entertain you. Apropos of your claim above that

plating costs a lot more, requires more steps, these steps require more caustic chemicals, and takes longer than modern paint processes

another question came to mind: If that's the case, how come I can get a chrome-plated tailpipe for my car for ten bucks or so?

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WOW! You keep digging a hole for yourself! What you fail to realize is that if you compare it to the material and production costs of powdercoating, mass-production powdercoating is actually much easier and less costly! You also eliminate the cost of having to have two entirely different finishing processes for your product!

For most reasonably intelligent people, when they find themselves in a hole, they stop digging! Clearly, you're still digging!!

Anders W said:

It's only you who pretend to know things without a credible source to back up your claim. As I pointed out above, I assumed the "silver" version of the E-M5 was plated. You assumed it was painted. Neither of us know for sure at this stage, although you are of course free to pretend that you do.

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Keep digging a hole for yourself! The reality is that modern-day paint application is pretty much the uniform and consistent manufacturing process used throughout the industry, not only for cameras but for plenty of other electronic devices. And it simply defies economic logic for Olympus to set up two entirely different finishing processes just so they can have one body in silver color and one body in black color! It's ridiculous to even propose your scenario, in fact. Suggest that to any production engineer and they'll just laugh in your face! They'll just say, "Uh, why can't we just use the same process for both, and just use different paint?"

When Hasselblad decided to offer a limited edition Ferrari-branded H4D, do you think they plated it a different color? No! They painted it a different color!



And when Pentax decided to offer a limited edition silver K-5, do you think they plated it a different color? No! They painted it a different color!





Likewise, when Olympus decided they wanted to offer the E-M5 in two different colors, they painted the bodies in two different colors! That's how things are done these days. A simple, efficient, cost effective, uniform process for both bodies.

sderdiarian said:

Black has been found to overheat more quickly when shooting video in bright sunlight, stressing the internal electronics.

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Right, that's why all of Canon's and Nikon's top video DSLR's, running much larger sensors and much more powerful internal processors, all have black bodies!

T3 said:

Anders W said:

Always glad to entertain you. Apropos of your claim above that

plating costs a lot more, requires more steps, these steps require more caustic chemicals, and takes longer than modern paint processes

another question came to mind: If that's the case, how come I can get a chrome-plated tailpipe for my car for ten bucks or so?

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WOW! You keep digging a hole for yourself! What you fail to realize is that if you compare it to the material and production costs of powdercoating, mass-production powdercoating is actually much easier and less costly! You also eliminate the cost of having to have two entirely different finishing processes for your product!

For most reasonably intelligent people, when they find themselves in a hole, they stop digging! Clearly, you're still digging!!

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Yes, you are right. Chrome-plating is obviously very expensive, as we can both see from my example. If the manufacturing cost, including raw materail, of a chrome-plated aluminum tailpipe amounts to no less than three dollars (so that it can sell for ten), it becomes obvious that the price of chrome-plating is something Olympus couldn't afford to do on the E-M5.

T3 said:

T3 said:

It's only you who pretend to know things without a credible source to back up your claim. As I pointed out above, I assumed the "silver" version of the E-M5 was plated. You assumed it was painted. Neither of us know for sure at this stage, although you are of course free to pretend that you do.

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Keep digging a hole for yourself! The reality is that modern-day paint application is pretty much the uniform and consistent manufacturing process used throughout the industry, not only for cameras but for plenty of other electronic devices. And it simply defies economic logic for Olympus to set up two entirely different finishing processes just so they can have one body in silver color and one body in black color! It's ridiculous to even propose your scenario, in fact. Suggest that to any production engineer and they'll just laugh in your face! They'll just say, "Uh, why can't we just use the same process for both, and just use different paint?"

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I am sure you are right again. And the joint production line for the black and "silver" version, where they can easily switch between the two colors based on demand, explains nicely why production and delivery of the "silver" but not the black version has been delayed.

http://m43blog.com/2012/04/19/silver-olympus-om-d-e-m5-delayed-to-mid-may/