Posting photos

Mahesh · Jan 7, 2003

And I think posting pictures has had a lot of positive effects on members of this forum. From many of the response to mine and to other's pictures, it seems as though seeing the pictures has been one of the biggest influences in deciding what camera to purchase. This alone is a reason to keep posting, I think. This helps everyone out...Phil Askey (because some might buy from one of his affiliated sites), Fuji, the purchaser, and us (because they will be posting picts of their own).

--
RAW data is but a recipe; photoshop the spices...while the printout is the
final meal...and each meal tastes a little different depending on the cook.

--Mahesh Thapa

Teski · Jan 7, 2003

Mahesh Thapa said:
And I think posting pictures has had a lot of positive effects on
members of this forum. From many of the response to mine and to
other's pictures, it seems as though seeing the pictures has been
one of the biggest influences in deciding what camera to purchase.
This alone is a reason to keep posting, I think. This helps
everyone out...Phil Askey (because some might buy from one of his
affiliated sites), Fuji, the purchaser, and us (because they will
be posting picts of their own).

--
RAW data is but a recipe; photoshop the spices...while the
printout is the
final meal...and each meal tastes a little different depending on
the cook.

--Mahesh Thapa

Teski · Jan 7, 2003

I am totally confused by you. You say we should stop posting pics on this forum and then you went and started a thread on cat pics:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=4006350

You say posting pics just so people can get their usual comments and compliments, and then you respond to pic posts:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=4109577

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=4116230

I don't get where you are coming from....You say one thing during pic posting debates,and then in everyday activity, you do the opposite. Personally I enjoy the latter half of you as you've had some great comments and suggestions for people.

I would like to see a response.

Teski

Suredeath said:
I agree, Ola. And yes I've also been able to predict the offending
responses here by some of the fierce pro-any-pic types. They kill
off any discussion trying to make you look stupid for mentioning
it. In fact, the pic to regular post rate increases by the minute,
and I suspect many have already left this forum for it. It is the
ONLY forum hear that has so many shots.

Please all, don't just keep pointing to earlier discussions.
"Majority rules" is not always the reason to keep on going like you
were. There is a forum where we all can show off our work, even at
dpreview. Use that, and keep this one for discussing S2 pro stuff.

If it helps: please, if you feel the same way, make yourself heard
too, since all people tend to do here is count votes...

chris G · Jan 7, 2003

I enjoy seeing the pics myself. As someone else pointed out, you usually can tell if a post is going to contain a picture. So, stay out if you don't want to see it.

And as far as bandwidth, since the pict's are just links, how much space are they really taking up here?

And for Rich who said:
TIP: For best results with FUJI S2 Pro take lens cap off before
shooting

My Sony CD300 has a neat feature. When the lens cap is on and the camera is on, the LCD displays "Lens Cap attached". In the manual under "Warning and notice messages" they list the message code "Lens Cap Attached" and the "meaning" as "The Lens Cap is Attached" !!!

Now, how come my big ol' expensive S2 doesn't have this advanced failsafe feature

chris G · Jan 7, 2003

Absolutely! Keep posting Mahesh. I have yet to open one of your posts without saying "WOW!". It's a great motivator knowing what is possible and what I have yet to achive.

Photosig is a great place to look at scads (is that a word?) of photos, but just reading comments doesn't always help. Back and forth discussion about a particular photo and technique is usually more helpful and interesting to me than just reading and seeing a bunch of thumbs (many don't even post comments on Photosig).

Mahesh Thapa said:
And I think posting pictures has had a lot of positive effects on
members of this forum. From many of the response to mine and to
other's pictures, it seems as though seeing the pictures has been
one of the biggest influences in deciding what camera to purchase.
This alone is a reason to keep posting, I think. This helps
everyone out...Phil Askey (because some might buy from one of his
affiliated sites), Fuji, the purchaser, and us (because they will
be posting picts of their own).

--
RAW data is but a recipe; photoshop the spices...while the
printout is the
final meal...and each meal tastes a little different depending on
the cook.

--Mahesh Thapa

Larry Thompson · Jan 7, 2003

The pictures help me to get an idea of the results people are getting with various lenses, settings, etc. It helped me decide to buy the 80-400VR last week. I don't go to the other picture sites. This is enough to keep up with.

I know having the same lens and camera Mahesh has isn't going to make me nearly as good a photographer as he is, but maybe it will help! At least I can see what is working for others.

Larry Thompson
near Chicago

GoncaloProenca · Jan 7, 2003

GMD said:
If your not interested then dont click on the thread..
loosen up or go to the Nikon forum ..

BAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA. OMG, I'm wipping my tears.

GMD said:
Have fun
gmd

We all do ; alas, we are S2 users

GMD said:
Ola-E. Hofshagen said:

and b.) because he/she is able to press the button. Most of them
are of less than zero interest to me. Frankly, I'm annoyed at the
waste of bandwidth, and the increased time I have to spend skimming
through all the photos for nuggets of practical wisdom concerning
the S2.

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Sorry Hofs.. cant understand you. Waste of bandwith ? I love this forum. Actually I check it often, several times a day. And I enjoy it because you can talk here about everything : S2 problems, tips, advices and post photos. You dont like to see photos and are annoyed because of the waste of bandwith ? oh plz... A great thing about this photo is almost everyone use [pic] in the subject when posting a photo, so if you dont want to waste bandwith, skip the post and dont open it up. I went these holidays on vacation with my S2 and my laptop ( and 56k modem.. oh boy.. so slow, I'm not used to it anymore

). And I viewed this forum almost daily with no problem - I didn't checked the photos. So what's the problem ? Dont want to see photos, don't.

Actually think this way : a value and perfect photo for you can be useless and rubish to me. Same otherwise.. so the majority of photos posted here, that you say have 0 interest to you can have ( and they do ) lots of interest to me. Even if the photo isnt perfect I can always see something positive in the photos : new ideas in composition, new colours, subjects to shoot, etc etc etc.

And last : I dont think that in the REGISTER page of this forum there is a checkbox where you have to check that says " YOU MUST SEND ONLY SUPERIOR QUALITY PHOTOS OR ELSE YOU MUST BURN IN HELL " ( well.. maybe maesh ) . So what's the big deal ? Everyone has to climb the leader from the start as we say here in Portugal and some people climb it faster than others. Remember that and help those people who's photos are so uninspiring. Comment the photos and help them become better photos. Maybe then you'll enjoy this forum.

--
Goncalo Proenca - Portugal, Europe
======================
Fuji S2 Pro / Nikkor 28-80 3,5/5,6 ~ Nikkor 70-300 ED 4-5,6
======================
My gallery : http://www1.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=73890

Dioni · Jan 7, 2003

Hi Ola,

I do not post a lot of pics and I try to answer as many questions as possible(do not know if of much help some times, others I know). I do not think pics makes me not answer any question I think I can answer.

What I enjoy most in this forum is the pics. If there were no pics, you can be sure I would not post and read it so often. This does not mean pics are good or bad for the forum, what I only mean is that I like pics and I like how the forum is now. I also think many people could have left the forum because of the ammount of pics, but also that many would leave if there were no pics.

The (pic) sign in the title of a post seems to me more than enough not to open a thread if I don't feel like seeing a pic at that moment. This way, every one have their own choice, not forced by some, for me ridiculous, PIC POSTING PROHIBITED sign.

Also, the Samples forum is dead and if you're not posting there every other day, you won't get any critique/suggestion/nothing there. And, finally, seing so many people this days to whom pics have help to make the right decission and buy an S2, I think posting pics should be encouraged.

Best,
Dioni
You don't take a photograph, you make it (Ansel Adams)

GoncaloProenca · Jan 7, 2003

I agree with the crazy spanish here

I love the pics and the forum. I love to see the pics and try to see every damn pic that is posted here. Why ? Because I like to compare lens. And to make the right options when spending 600, 700, 1000 or 2000 bucks on a lens.

Ok, magazine test's are nice, with impressive charts and fancy commentaries. But these guys are pro's, I am not. And in the end, the final result ( the picture ) is all that matters .That's how I decide to buy or to skip lens . By watching pictures and making questions. This forum is tremendous helpfull in this way and can make you skip or buy new lens with confidence. At least I do.

--
Goncalo Proenca - Portugal, Europe
======================
Fuji S2 Pro / Nikkor 28-80 3,5/5,6 ~ Nikkor 70-300 ED 4-5,6
======================
My gallery : http://www1.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=73890

Artichoke · Jan 7, 2003

Like Ola, I have been a long time participant in this forum

I do not believe I have once started a thread with a post, but I will frequently put a picture to illustrate a point

I do enjoy seeing others photos & really don't mind what I believe is a correct observation by Ola, i.e, that the frequency of posts of photos purely to show off a photo has increased

I think the reason for this is folks amazement at what they are getting out of their camera & some are folks inspired by photos on the forum & wanting show that they can do this as well ...I find these efforts at times heartwarming, at times inspiring & at times boring, but more often than not worth the bandwidth (get mine over a cable & don't pay by the megabyte, however)

what is important in our site is that useful posts are still being made & that we have a collegial forum with broad interests and experience represented ...it fills me with great joy to see a question asked by a novice, answered by a real expert ...I simply love to follow erudite discussions on the fine points of photography theory and technique ...and I enjoy some of the humorous responses & photos posted by what have become sort of cyber buddies

I do NOT like seeing someone post, for the umpteenth time, a question about whether or not CR123 batteries should or should not be used ...this issue has been resolved & I wish there was an FAQ here (not possible given the forum's structure, I think) or that all forum newbies took the time to search questions, using the wonderful search engine Phil Askey has provided

this is a pretty special forum & I really hope it doesn't change too much
--
pbase & dpreview supporter
Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke

Kendall69 · Jan 7, 2003

As long as the pics are by Ola-E. Hofshagen, then all is fine, when the topic is all about Ola-E. Hofshagen, all is fine, but when others post pics, he wants to pick up his marbles and go home.

For me - keep all the pics coming good and bad, because I learn from both.

Barry Lawrensen · Jan 7, 2003

Hofshagen,

The pictures are one of the main reasons I come to the Fuji SLR forum daily, to see what others are doing with their fine cameras. It is by far the best possible inspiration to me in my hobby and part-time profession of photography. Also, this is a "community" to me, and though I don't contribute as often as many, I consider many of the regulars here as a type of friends and professional associates.

It is nice when contributors put (pic) in their Subject heading, and even more important that responders DELETE the pictures in the quote of the message being replied to (unless they pertain specifically to the response).

If you don't want to see the pictures, skip over the posts that say (pic).

Regards, and happy shooting,
Barry Lawrensen

Ola-E. Hofshagen said:
Please, don't be offended anybody, but I don't like the recent
development on this forum. More and more photos are posted, and I
really don't understand the rationale behind this practice. I mean,
just after the S2 was released everybody was hungry to see photos
from this marvel, and some of them even swayed me to buy the S2
instead of the D100, but now?
Sure, some photos documenting the how-to's, lens comparisons, track
patterns etc are of interest, but the vast majority of photos
posted today seem to be posted a.) because the poster has an S2,
and b.) because he/she is able to press the button. Most of them
are of less than zero interest to me. Frankly, I'm annoyed at the
waste of bandwidth, and the increased time I have to spend skimming
through all the photos for nuggets of practical wisdom concerning
the S2.

There are plenty of sites on the web, http://www.photosig.com is one of
them, where one can show off photos for those so inclined (I am one
of them) and get your work critiqued by fellow photographers. Use
them, and not this forum, as useful posts tend to drown in the
sludge.
--
Hofshagen

mcnub · Jan 7, 2003

At the very least, photos can spark a technical discussion that leads to good information exchange on camera settings, software, etc. Which is what the forum is all about.

I've posted a few recently and I do apologize if this ticked you off. Like many of us I'm just a novice and the photos aren't that great (yet!). There are quite a few exceptional photographers here and their information is always useful. The rest of us just have some fun and hopefully contribute to the sense of community that makes this forum rather unique and welcoming.

I'll try to be more selective in what pictures I post but I will post pictures. I like sharing the final product with this group of people.

Andy John · Jan 8, 2003

mcnub said:
At the very least, photos can spark a technical discussion that
leads to good information exchange on camera settings, software,
etc. Which is what the forum is all about.

I've posted a few recently and I do apologize if this ticked you
off. Like many of us I'm just a novice and the photos aren't that
great (yet!). There are quite a few exceptional photographers
here and their information is always useful. The rest of us just
have some fun and hopefully contribute to the sense of community
that makes this forum rather unique and welcoming.

I'll try to be more selective in what pictures I post but I will
post pictures. I like sharing the final product with this group of
people.

Hey Guys;

In my very humb;e two and 1/2 cents...As a professional in this medium, ours is that of visual media and that means....Pictures, portraits which are a representation of our communication. I dont see the harm in displaying what you are doing in your endeavors with the tool that this forum is based on especially with the positive support that I see in this forum...Life is to jacked up with rules and status quoe to be worried about band with (ahh the miracles of cablespeed and DSL) If DP review does not care why should we???? the benifits of seeing what our friends are doing out weighs the negatives whic I do not see. I have been to the gallery and quite frankly, it's boring, I would much rather see the constant interaction that I see in this thread, that is what sold me on the S2...I will say sorry in advance beacuse when mine arrives I will post here, my studios sight, Corbis, AP and the many other sights I contribute to.....Not meant to be a flame but my honest remarks....Respectfully Andy J

Teski · Jan 8, 2003

Looking forward to seeing those pics!

Teski

Andy John said:
mcnub said:

At the very least, photos can spark a technical discussion that
leads to good information exchange on camera settings, software,
etc. Which is what the forum is all about.

I've posted a few recently and I do apologize if this ticked you
off. Like many of us I'm just a novice and the photos aren't that
great (yet!). There are quite a few exceptional photographers
here and their information is always useful. The rest of us just
have some fun and hopefully contribute to the sense of community
that makes this forum rather unique and welcoming.

I'll try to be more selective in what pictures I post but I will
post pictures. I like sharing the final product with this group of
people.

Hey Guys;

Click to expand...

In my very humb;e two and 1/2 cents...As a professional in this
medium, ours is that of visual media and that means....Pictures,
portraits which are a representation of our communication. I dont
see the harm in displaying what you are doing in your endeavors
with the tool that this forum is based on especially with the
positive support that I see in this forum...Life is to jacked up
with rules and status quoe to be worried about band with (ahh the
miracles of cablespeed and DSL) If DP review does not care why
should we???? the benifits of seeing what our friends are doing out
weighs the negatives whic I do not see. I have been to the gallery
and quite frankly, it's boring, I would much rather see the
constant interaction that I see in this thread, that is what sold
me on the S2...I will say sorry in advance beacuse when mine
arrives I will post here, my studios sight, Corbis, AP and the many
other sights I contribute to.....Not meant to be a flame but my
honest remarks....Respectfully Andy J

OlaE Hofshagen · Jan 8, 2003

To my recollection I've posted one scaled-down photo taken with the S2, showing off the ability to shoot IR photos on the S2.

All my comments have been concerning the S2, not me. I have not yet been a "topic" on the forum, and let's keep it that way. No point in getting personal, is it?

All in all, your reply is unfounded, untrue, and uncalled for.

Kendall69 said:
As long as the pics are by Ola-E. Hofshagen, then all is fine, when
the topic is all about Ola-E. Hofshagen, all is fine, but when
others post pics, he wants to pick up his marbles and go home.

For me - keep all the pics coming good and bad, because I learn
from both.

--
Hofshagen

OlaE Hofshagen · Jan 8, 2003

Frankly, Mahesh, I don't give a toss about the vote, and if you knew the least bit about polling and statistics you wouldn't either. Having seen your photos previously, and making the mental connection between your name and photos, I'm afraid the result of the poll is very predictable.

You are, however, welcome to do whatever you like on this forum, I am in no position to dictate anything.

However, as I've pointed out, there's no shortage of sites designed for showing photos. This forum is not designed for it (no thumbnailed preview, no rating system, no etc etc.). Its design is well suited for discussing the Fuji SLR tools period. There's even a separate forum for samples and galleries. Why not brand the posts there with "S2"? That way it would be easy to keep track of "the people you know and love" on this forum.

On a forum for Windows XP, would you post a program of your own design produced on that platform? Of course not.

I post a lot of photos on photosig, and also on a norwegian website called foto.no . People who go there know what they get. When I go to the Fuji SLR forum I want info and discussions about the Fuji SLR's, not about photos, it's really as simple as that.

Regards

Oh, another thing, there's no need to take this personally. I didn't mention anybody by name, and did not have you or your photos in mind when I wrote the original post.

Ola

As I've written elsewhere in this thread

Mahesh Thapa said:
I usually stay out of these kinds of threads, but I feel compelled
to write today, especially given that I'm the worst offender. I
can't add any more than has already been mentioned by a majority
of other members in this forum. If you looked at one of Teski's
responses, you will have noted that I specifically asked the
question reguarding the appropriateness of posting pictures to this
forum and the overwhelming response was for posting picts. I tried
to be as diplomatic as possible when asking and didn't try to use
language that would try to bias the vote. So, come hell or high
water, I will continue to post pictures and I encourage others to
do the same.

--
RAW data is but a recipe; photoshop the spices...while the
printout is the
final meal...and each meal tastes a little different depending on
the cook.

--Mahesh Thapa

--
Hofshagen

GMD · Jan 8, 2003

OlaE Hofshagen said:
When I go
to the Fuji SLR forum I want info and discussions about the Fuji
SLR's, not about photos, it's really as simple as that.

Why don't you make your own then ... It's about time you get
the message here.. loosen up ...

Let's go shooting
gmd

GMD · Jan 8, 2003

This forum and its image posts are not about
rating and that sort of formal nonsense ..
It's a fun thing and has a social component ..
We love live and we love shooting, so warm up
although you are far in the North and have cold feet all
the time ..

) I can relate to that, but still no reason
to be grumpy ..

Have fun
gmd

GMD said:
GMD said:

When I go
to the Fuji SLR forum I want info and discussions about the Fuji
SLR's, not about photos, it's really as simple as that.

Click to expand...

Why don't you make your own then ... It's about time you get
the message here.. loosen up ...

Let's go shooting
gmd

OlaE Hofshagen · Jan 8, 2003

Why do you deem it necessary to comment on my state of mind, GMD?
Do you know me? Methinks not.

Please try to keep your posts on a non-personal level. Discussions are more productive if we don't make assumptions about people we really don't know.

Ola

GMD wrote:
I can relate to that, but still no reason

GMD said:
to be grumpy ..

Have fun
gmd

GMD said:

GMD said:

When I go
to the Fuji SLR forum I want info and discussions about the Fuji
SLR's, not about photos, it's really as simple as that.

Click to expand...

Why don't you make your own then ... It's about time you get
the message here.. loosen up ...

Let's go shooting
gmd

Click to expand...

--
Hofshagen

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