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Steve Huff reviews the x pro 1
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Chris Dodkin
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No idea what he's on about with his SD card and Photoshop/Bridge issues
Never seen that - X100 or X-Pro1
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Never seen that - X100 or X-Pro1
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Mikee
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X100 faster AF focus? Wtf?! I shot with both today and the x-pro1 feels much more responsive in operation.
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BlueScoobyDoo
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I own both the x100 and Xpro1 and the x100 seems much slower in just about everything.
That being said the x100 is still amazing and I am keeping it =)
That being said the x100 is still amazing and I am keeping it =)
Shootaman
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He did not like it. I'm not sure I like his style of review? Am I a fanboy? Nope, I'll have to see it for myself on Monday when mine comes. I did not like Sony NEX-7 because of it's over jealous interface. Tri-Navi was great only 3 times but the system did very little to back it up. Am I the only one that thinks Zeiss 24mm wasn't worth 1k. Very soft at that price point. It should've been labeled 24mm f2.8 not F1.8. NEX-7s' video shut down w/ only few minutes of use in many occasions... very frustrating (he mentions it but not to the extend). I kept on hitting the v-record button by mistake. It is cute but too small...'felt hollow', there should be some substance... what is it a Intel-CPU-keeps getting smaller and smaller... what are we gonna shoot the NEX-8 w/? our pinch? If I don't agree on some of the things he said about NEX-7.... I may not agree w/ him on more things... We'll see. I hope he's wrong.
If he's right, I'll give him props!
But, something about 'HIS WAY'... I don't like...'CAPS', also seems bit ostentatious about his M9... Of course XP1s gonna be lighter if you're used to using M9 585g vs XP1 451g... It's all relative... say it like is... don't just dismiss it or be ignorant about it... somehow he just doesn't seem all that convincing to me... We'll see if I'm wrong...
If I don't like it I will spit it out like rotten-egg-jellybeans. But I hope he's wrong.
Fuji might have asked him to release the review after the first batch delivery... timing seems fishy. Conspiracy truth? Is that why DPR's holding it's review too? hmm...
Why do so many like and he don't like? hmm... Wait til Monday. I'll tell it like it is!
If he's right, I'll give him props!
But, something about 'HIS WAY'... I don't like...'CAPS', also seems bit ostentatious about his M9... Of course XP1s gonna be lighter if you're used to using M9 585g vs XP1 451g... It's all relative... say it like is... don't just dismiss it or be ignorant about it... somehow he just doesn't seem all that convincing to me... We'll see if I'm wrong...
If I don't like it I will spit it out like rotten-egg-jellybeans. But I hope he's wrong.
Fuji might have asked him to release the review after the first batch delivery... timing seems fishy. Conspiracy truth? Is that why DPR's holding it's review too? hmm...
Why do so many like and he don't like? hmm... Wait til Monday. I'll tell it like it is!
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MPA1
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I wondered about that.
Why not just copy the files off the card onto the computer and put the card back in the camera.
I was rather unclear how a software fault with 2 non-Fuji programs was listed as a 'con' in the review, I must say.
Why not just copy the files off the card onto the computer and put the card back in the camera.
I was rather unclear how a software fault with 2 non-Fuji programs was listed as a 'con' in the review, I must say.
wild05kid05
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To be honest, for these kind of once-in-awhile-most-anticipated device in general, this case camera X Pro1 . Go out there, grab and feel it. There's no point in hearing what someone feels about it, no matter his or her credential. If you enjoy the camera and can cope with its quirks, then you decide, if not then next time. A reviewer is not your dad back when you were under 18, making up the choice for you. I have personally read a bunch of reviews and done my homeworks on the XP1, seen a lot of 'opinions'. They don't hold me off from getting it as my first ever real camera (not point and shoot). I like what it does, ordered and will explore.
I understand it's hard earn money, but people complain and whine too much. Appreciate the image it delivers, that's all.
I understand it's hard earn money, but people complain and whine too much. Appreciate the image it delivers, that's all.
When you use a card reader to upload files to a Mac, the Mac writes some sort of file to the card. Once that file is on the card, Fuji's have a real hard time starting up. 10-20 second sounds right to me. The X100 does it, the X10 did it, and the X-pro 1 does it. It's not a huge deal - once you understand it you just don't upload until and unless you're going to format the card as soon as you put it back in the camera. I'd do this anyway as a matter of course with any camera during the upload session. It just takes a few seconds longer with the Fuji. I don't LIKE it, but it doesn't affect my shooting, it just adds a few seconds to my upload time. It's a fuji issue because none of my other cameras do this and all three of my Fuji's do or did. He's not wrong, but I don't get why it bothers him so much. How often do you upload to your computer (or iPad) and then have to shoot right NOW?
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I didn't think the Zeiss 24mm was worth half its price, my NEX-7 broke after 12 days and was returned, got the XPro and its so much better in every way than the NEX-7.
I have a Mac, an X-Pro1 and used to have the X100, and I have never experienced this issue. I have no doubt it can happen, maybe different Mac and/or OS version, but in this case can't one just protect the SD card from being written by the Mac before importing the files? There's a little switch on the card just for that.
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The style of his writing is just atrocious. The layout reminds me of the early days of DTP when amateur layout artists used every font in the menu; bold, caps, italics, bold italics, bold caps, different colours, underlining....
Unreadable.
Roy
Unreadable.
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His comparison of the XP1 + 35mm XR against the NEX-7 + Leica 35 is odd, to say the least. With system glass (say, the Zeiss) I find the Fuji RAW's to have better color and contrast than the NEX-7's.
Also, the NEX-7 and the Zeiss cost just as much as the Fuji + lens do.
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Also, the NEX-7 and the Zeiss cost just as much as the Fuji + lens do.
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MPA1
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Well said!
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MPA1
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Well, mine does not do it.
I don't own PS or Bridge though. But Aperture certainly does not make it happen.
I don't own PS or Bridge though. But Aperture certainly does not make it happen.
Alessandro63
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Nor does my X100.
Copying files from the card to the HD does not write anything in the card (Mac user here).
I think he's having Lightroom (or any other SW) access the card directly to load images, instead of copying them to the HD. Well, it should work without introducing problems. Apparently, Fuji's FW is a far from optimized patchwork, and the camera hangs while trying to understand what those hidden file are for.
I don't think Apple will change it's file management system. It's up to fuji...
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Copying files from the card to the HD does not write anything in the card (Mac user here).
I think he's having Lightroom (or any other SW) access the card directly to load images, instead of copying them to the HD. Well, it should work without introducing problems. Apparently, Fuji's FW is a far from optimized patchwork, and the camera hangs while trying to understand what those hidden file are for.
I don't think Apple will change it's file management system. It's up to fuji...
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Some of the best reviews (of anything, not just cameras) are not those that you agree with, but those that you can easily understand the context of who the reviewer is, what his likes and dislikes are, and why he comes to the conclusions he does.
Consistency in a reviewer means that you can judge quite well how you will respond.
My most useful movie reviewer was a person who I disagreed with 99% of the time. If he hated a film I knew I'd almost certainly like it and vice versa.
Steve Huff is an honest camera enthusiast of moderate photographic ability. He doesn't like the camera terribly much but nothing in his review puts me off it.
I think he's an honest reviewer and therefore value his reviews even though I don't put much store in his conclusions.
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Consistency in a reviewer means that you can judge quite well how you will respond.
My most useful movie reviewer was a person who I disagreed with 99% of the time. If he hated a film I knew I'd almost certainly like it and vice versa.
Steve Huff is an honest camera enthusiast of moderate photographic ability. He doesn't like the camera terribly much but nothing in his review puts me off it.
I think he's an honest reviewer and therefore value his reviews even though I don't put much store in his conclusions.
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X100 blog -> http://peri.org.uk/wp/?tag=blog
- The Fuji 35/1.4 is the closest one to the IQ of Leica's 35/1.4 or 50/1.4 asphericals, the closest one with a price less than 1/8 of the reference class of the industry.
- The comparison of the Nex-7 with 35/1.4 Summilux against the XP1 with its native lens is absurd. On one side saving $500, on the other side having to afford for a $5000 lens. Yet, the Fujifilm was so close in performance.. Now let's flip the coin: How would the Summilux on the XP1 stand against the native 35/1.4? I wonder if he's seen this:
- A most fair comparison could be performed if it was possible to mount the Fuji 35/1.4 on the Nex-7 (however it would still be a non-auto operation..)
- 24/1.8 Zeiss: The only wide angle with comparable IQ to the Fuji 23/2 or 35/1.4 is a Retrofocal design, large in size (and weight also) offsetting the advantages of Nex- compactness. ( + $1100).
- Aperture control with manual lenses on the Nex-series is cumbersome when one needs to focus wide open and then stop down to shoot. (I use the 5N with Leica and Zeiss lenses). Unless it's supported by automatic diaphram action, focus "peaking" is not an instantenous operation while using small apertures.
- For the use of conventional design (rangefinder) wide angle lenses shorter than 35mm, the sensor on the 5N (or C3) is far more suitable than the one on the Nex-7. (Less smearing, less color-shift toward corners.) Photozone found the Nex-7 sensor design rather not optimal..
- The hi-ISO characteristics of the XP1 is unique in its sensor class; the closest one to the top FF sensors in this regard.
- Through film-simulation modes Fujifilm provides a great deal of convenience for top color control to eliminate the need of PP for most of the users. Any camera including the professional DSLRs to deliver the same pleasing colors OOC?
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seany
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--It's all down to the AF as far as I'm concerned, how Fuji could not have learned from the X100 in this regard is troubling, if a simple fw update could fix it I think it would have been done before launch?
seany
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I think I may have experienced this once when I formatted the SD card on the computer first, but except of that I always use a card reader and don't have this problem with it freezing up. I use Photo Mechanic to copy the files to the Mac. Do not drag thema cross manually. So I don't think it is related to card reader, but rather if you write or perhaps delete som hidden files on the SD card.
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