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I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New Years Eve.

Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280 the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
 
the reviews i've seen say they are about the same or that the 2200 has a very slight edge, commercial reviews tend to be carried out without any optimization (profiling etc.) so imho actual use counts for more

here is a website that has scans/evaluations of test prints from actual users both of these printers...

http://www.thenichols.net/Printer_Eval/

...there are multiple scans from each printer, made by different people, it is interesting to see that the quality varies so that some s9000 prints are better than some 2200 prints and vice versa

given the space i'd like both printers, but when i had to decide then the sheer speed of the s9000 was the decider, i've made profiles for the media i like and this has dramatically improved it vs. out of the box performance
 
Hi Mark,

As you can see by my signature line, I have the Epson 2200. I also shot with the Canon D60. So....you can assume that I like both companies. I do. I think you can not make a wrong choice here. Both are GREAT printers. The only reason I went with the Epson 2200 is, imho, Canon makes the better Camera and EPSON makes the better printer. No slam intended against anyone. Really it boils down to personal preference. For me I prefer Canon Cameras and Epson Printers.
But you will not go wrong with the S9000. It is a very good printer.

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Peace,

Chris
Canon EOS D60, Twin 1Gb Microdrives, Twin 512Mb Ridata,
Canon 28-70 f2.8L, Canon 70-200 f2.8L,
Sigma 15-30 f3.5-4.5EX, Sigma 2X Converter,
Canon 550EX Flash, Canon Shoe Cord 2, Stroboframe Pro-T
Mac Powerbook G4 Jaguar 10.2.3 800Mhz 512Mb Combo Drive
Epson 2200
 
Chris Fichera said:
Hi Mark,

As you can see by my signature line, I have the Epson 2200. I also
shot with the Canon D60. So....you can assume that I like both
companies. I do. I think you can not make a wrong choice here.
Both are GREAT printers. The only reason I went with the Epson
2200 is, imho, Canon makes the better Camera and EPSON makes the
better printer. No slam intended against anyone. Really it boils
down to personal preference. For me I prefer Canon Cameras and
Epson Printers.
But you will not go wrong with the S9000. It is a very good printer.
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Chris:
I have a D30 and an Epson 1280 &890 so I also like both companies!

Can you tell me what printer you were using before the 2200 and do you find the 2200 fast, not comparing to the speed of the 9000 but in general and is it quiet?
 
If you're knocked out by the speed, and the archival nature of the Epson 2200 prints isn't a big deal, then why even consider the 2200?

But to add one thing to the discussion: The 2200 does have a feature that you may not have considered (and I don't know if the Canon has it or not, frankly). The 2200 handles rolls of paper with a builtin holder, and comes with an automatic cutter and drop tray. So, if you are printing, for example, 100 4" x 6" prints in a sitting, then the Epson might be better for you there.
Mark P. said:
I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New
Years Eve.
Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280
the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium
Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do
I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and
better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is
the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just
don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
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Mark,

Just before Christmas I volunteered to make 13x19 prints, from my S9000, for a forum poster who wanted to make the same decision. The e-mail below is from that party after comparing prints. The prints were made from the forum poster's file which was downloaded by me & the 2200 owner. No names are included except mine.

Hello Jerry,

Hope you had a nice Christmas, mine was great. I received both prints yesterday, I was as excited

as Ralphie, in The Christmas Story, opening his BB gun on Christmas day. I opened the 2200 first,

hard to get those tings out of the tube, and my first impression was..........DARN IT!! She only printed

it 8x12 on 13x19. My second impression was it looked a little red, but maybe that could be fixed if I

would play with the profiles. The quality was great but as I said it was only 8x12. Anxiously I moved

on to yours. Again hard to get out of the tube, as I unrolled them and laid them side by side with

paper weights on them to hold them down my first impression was.........WOW, WOW, and

DOUBLE WOW!!!! The size was huge, the quality was excellent, in both the gloss and

matte. It was difficult to compare them to the 2200 because of the size but I can not imagine the

2200 been any better even if it was 13x19. So my conclusion is the S9000 wins hands down. I

showed them to several people and they could not believe that they came off of a home printer.
Mark P. said:
I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New
Years Eve.
Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280
the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium
Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do
I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and
better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is
the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just
don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
Click to expand...
 
If you are thinking of buying the Epson 2200 then they must be available somewhere...do you know where?

Also ha anyone experienced any issues with either printer and windows XP?
jerpat said:
Hello Jerry,

Hope you had a nice Christmas, mine was great. I received both
prints yesterday, I was as excited
as Ralphie, in The Christmas Story, opening his BB gun on Christmas
day. I opened the 2200 first,
hard to get those tings out of the tube, and my first impression
was..........DARN IT!! She only printed
it 8x12 on 13x19. My second impression was it looked a little red,
but maybe that could be fixed if I
would play with the profiles. The quality was great but as I said
it was only 8x12. Anxiously I moved
on to yours. Again hard to get out of the tube, as I unrolled them
and laid them side by side with
paper weights on them to hold them down my first impression
was.........WOW, WOW, and
DOUBLE WOW!!!! The size was huge, the quality was excellent, in
both the gloss and
matte. It was difficult to compare them to the 2200 because of the
size but I can not imagine the
2200 been any better even if it was 13x19. So my conclusion is the
S9000 wins hands down. I
showed them to several people and they could not believe that they
came off of a home printer.
Mark P. said:
I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New
Years Eve.
Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280
the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium
Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do
I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and
better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is
the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just
don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
Click to expand...
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Thanks jerpat and everyone for your input.

I've decided to keep the Canon 9000, I'm so impressed with its print quality and the speed is really astounding, maybe because it's new to me but I'm really getting a kick out of printing an 8x11 photo at the highest quality in about 2 minutes, it takes my Epson 1280 wrll over 6 minutes to print the same photo and the outcome is virtually identical.

Su, Micro Center in Westbury (Long Island) NY has one in stock they were holding for me.
Don't know where you live but their phone # is (516) 683-6760.

I know rhey have it because I saw the salesman put it away for me, the box is huge!
 
Thanks Mark...Long Island is a little far...maybe I'll call and see if they will ship it...I am with you on speed though; I have the 1280...love the pics, but the printing is way slow...and it slowed down even more when I got a new computer with XP; but as a traditional film photographer that does black and white (color only digital!) I am more obsessed with archival quality and with exploring black in white in the daylight
Mark P. said:
Thanks jerpat and everyone for your input.
I've decided to keep the Canon 9000, I'm so impressed with its
print quality and the speed is really astounding, maybe because
it's new to me but I'm really getting a kick out of printing an
8x11 photo at the highest quality in about 2 minutes, it takes my
Epson 1280 wrll over 6 minutes to print the same photo and the
outcome is virtually identical.

Su, Micro Center in Westbury (Long Island) NY has one in stock they
were holding for me.
Don't know where you live but their phone # is (516) 683-6760.
I know rhey have it because I saw the salesman put it away for me,
the box is huge!
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Su,

I got 2200 for my birthday from staples.com few days ago. Just checked - expected delivery is 1-2 business days (for my zip at least...). Looks like shipping is still free.

Lev
http://www.pbase.com/lev
Su M. said:
If you are thinking of buying the Epson 2200 then they must be
available somewhere...do you know where?

Also ha anyone experienced any issues with either printer and
windows XP?
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Wait until your 1st 13x19 rolls out in about 4-5 min; the hair will stand up on the back of your neck. Awesome!
Mark P. said:
Thanks jerpat and everyone for your input.
I've decided to keep the Canon 9000, I'm so impressed with its
print quality and the speed is really astounding, maybe because
it's new to me but I'm really getting a kick out of printing an
8x11 photo at the highest quality in about 2 minutes, it takes my
Epson 1280 wrll over 6 minutes to print the same photo and the
outcome is virtually identical.
Click to expand...
 
If you are looking to buy an Epson 2200, call Allens camera:

215-547-2841

I've bought my Canon D60 from them before and just bought an Epson 2200. Allen indicated he has several more.
 
Mark P. said:
The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.
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I have the 2200 and wouldn't trade it for two 9000s.... 'But' I have seen prints from the 9000 and imho they are fantastic, so based on your critieria and the fact that the canon makes nice photos, you are probably going to be happier with the S9000.

RB
 
Paul Archer said:
If you're knocked out by the speed, and the archival nature of the
Epson 2200 prints isn't a big deal, then why even consider the 2200?

But to add one thing to the discussion: The 2200 does have a
feature that you may not have considered (and I don't know if the
Canon has it or not, frankly). The 2200 handles rolls of paper with
a builtin holder, and comes with an automatic cutter and drop tray.
So, if you are printing, for example, 100 4" x 6" prints in a
sitting, then the Epson might be better for you there.
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The paper tray holds 50 sheets of 4x6 paper so no problem here. Besides, roll paper comes out all curled up. Also, the S9000 does not micro advance when doing borderless so there is no speed penalty when printing many borderless 4x6s.
 
jerpat said:
Mark,
Just before Christmas I volunteered to make 13x19 prints, from my
S9000, for a forum poster who wanted to make the same decision.
The e-mail below is from that party after comparing prints. The
prints were made from the forum poster's file which was downloaded
by me & the 2200 owner. No names are included except mine.

Hello Jerry,

Hope you had a nice Christmas, mine was great. I received both
prints yesterday, I was as excited
as Ralphie, in The Christmas Story, opening his BB gun on Christmas
day. I opened the 2200 first,
hard to get those tings out of the tube, and my first impression
was..........DARN IT!! She only printed
it 8x12 on 13x19. My second impression was it looked a little red,
but maybe that could be fixed if I
would play with the profiles. The quality was great but as I said
it was only 8x12. Anxiously I moved
on to yours. Again hard to get out of the tube, as I unrolled them
and laid them side by side with
paper weights on them to hold them down my first impression
was.........WOW, WOW, and
DOUBLE WOW!!!! The size was huge, the quality was excellent, in
both the gloss and
matte. It was difficult to compare them to the 2200 because of the
size but I can not imagine the
2200 been any better even if it was 13x19. So my conclusion is the
S9000 wins hands down. I
showed them to several people and they could not believe that they
came off of a home printer.
Click to expand...
And let us not forget that the Canon carts refill in a snap. No nasty cartrige designs or chips to worry about.
 
Interesting...I checked the site and they are available..free shipping too; what are the traditional camera sites doing wrong; they can't seem to get them in stock; what printer did you have before...how do you like the 2200 (I have a 1280...and an HP 1115)
Lev Bass said:
Lev
http://www.pbase.com/lev
Su M. said:
If you are thinking of buying the Epson 2200 then they must be
available somewhere...do you know where?

Also ha anyone experienced any issues with either printer and
windows XP?
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I am trying to make the same decision as you. I currently have a 1280 and have struggled with trying to make a CFS system work. I could never get great prints on glossy paper. Since I print such a high volume of pictres the 2200 is appealing to me. If you look at the PCWorld review the 2200 comes out on top for quality of prints, especially black and white and economy of ink. The Canon beats only for speed. Please post your final decision. Thanks.
Mark P. said:
I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New
Years Eve.
Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280
the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium
Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do
I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and
better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is
the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just
don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
Click to expand...
--
YosemiteSam
 
I'm considering both printers and leaning towards the 2200 because of its 75 year rated archive quality and B&W print. I will be selling restored prints to customers and basically have concluded that I will have an easier sell job if I can quote them a 75 year print shelf life versus a 25 year shelf life. If it were only for my own use, I'd probably opt to save the $200 and get the s9000. I don't think you can go too far wrong with either of these printers, you just need to know what you want to use it for.

Jim
Teri Fernandes said:
Mark P. said:
I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New
Years Eve.
Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280
the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium
Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do
I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and
better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is
the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just
don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
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YosemiteSam
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Photography should be fun

http://www.pbase.com/jcollins
 
After reading these posts I am thinking about one of these printers to print 8"X10" real estate flyers. I print only a few flyers in photo quality then 50 or so at a time on Kodak Bright White paper. It is only about $8.00 for 500 sheets and we display them in a plastic holder attached to the For Sale Sign. The 9000 sounds like it might be just the ticket for its speed, but how good would the prints be on the bright white paper? TIA for your advice.
Jim_Collins said:
Jim
Teri Fernandes said:
Mark P. said:
I purchased the Canon S9000 and printed some photos I took on New
Years Eve.
Wow! they came out great and the speed! Compared to my Epson 1280
the speed is amazing, and the output is just as good on Premium
Luster Photo paper.

Now to my question, I have to make the final decision tomorrow, do
I keep the Canon 9000 or return it for the Epson 2200.

The longevity of the 2200 is not really important to me, and since
I'll be using the printer to do some photo printing for work speed
does come into play.

I guess what I'm asking is, other than the longevity issue and
better b/w output of the 2200, strictly for color photo prints is
the Canon 9000 output equal or very close to the 2200? Guess I just
don't want to make the wrong decision.

Your input is appreciated.
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YosemiteSam
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Photography should be fun

http://www.pbase.com/jcollins
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LSandersSr
http://www.coastalhomefinder.com
 
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