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Close to a 12 year enthusiast here, but despite the length of time, an amateur nonetheless.

Went from Nikon integrated digital cameras to Canon 10D, 20D, 5D, 5DII, marveling at the improvements in each generation.

Added a few lenses every generation, buying into the idea of just swapping bodies, and keeping the glass. Love the F2.8 70-200L, 50 1.4, so many others.

The Canon 5D2 was the best camera I'd ever owned. Even today I love its abilities for landscape, portrait, low light, and casual shooting. Even some astrophotography and microscopy. The HD video quality was great (yes, focus, tearing, and other issues aside). Trips now meant I could add an extra lens, or a Zoom H4N instead of a camcorder.

The big downside of course was AF for me. Not the best camera for sports, birding, or quickly darting kids.

So to see the increase in FPS, in AF, and in ISO performance made this my must have upgrade. I can't really carry a 7D and 5D2, as mentioned above for space.

And of course, there are many more of me: non-professionals yet who have the money to get a great camera, than there are professionals. Or perhaps more than professionals who haven't already been targeted by the 1 series.

So apologies. However, I want to give hats off to both Nikon and Canon for giving fantastic tools for those who want to learn and capture images in better dynamic range or color correctness than those who are simply happy with their smartphone camera.

I am not the target market for the 1D, I'm not good enough nor do I make enough from its use. I am glad there is a mid range camera that gives great results.



 
Thank you.
Thank you very much.

Now, since you are the reason, can you pay for it too?

thank you again!

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I am in a similar position, not exactly the same though.

My first DSLR was 5D. I bought it soon after it came out. I was really happy with it. Upgraded hesitantly to MKII and was even happier. More than 90% of the time I didn't have any complaint.

I occasionally missed higher FPS for those bird shots. But learned to live with it. I got a 7D, but ended up shooting with 5D2 even when I needed the speed.

Banding and pattern noise bothered me occasionally, but I found way around them (usually in PP) most of the time. Other than these, noise never was an issue as I hardly go over ISO800.
I occasionally wished that focusing was better.

It seems that 5D3 has solved (or almost solved) these problems for me. Even if I get MKIII, I will have my MKII. Its an amazing camera. I think in lower ISOs, IQ would be the same.

I agree with you. Lots of enthusiasts buy cameras like 5D3 (or D800). It would be interesting to know what percent of total buyers of this kind of cameras are non-professionals.

Lovely image, btw. Is it Alaska by any chance? I was there in 2010.
 
everybody thinks 5d3 is good camera and definitely fills a niche or two...

but is very very expensive at $4800 in Uk....

and not as good in many areas as a competitor product that is $1000 cheaper...

I just don't want to be mugged... simple as that.
 
can't blame you
the price is high
expro said:
everybody thinks 5d3 is good camera and definitely fills a niche or two...

but is very very expensive at $4800 in Uk....

and not as good in many areas as a competitor product that is $1000 cheaper...

I just don't want to be mugged... simple as that.
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Unless a commercial product has a broad consumer appeal it tends to be extremely expensive. The cost of the raw materials tend to be small and the cost of development tends to be high. Cameras aren't a finite resource like gold and demand often has the net effect, in the long term, of lowering the price. Think of enthusiasts as the group that helps you split the development costs of all these fancy electronics.
 
No doubt about, whatever drives the economy of scale drives the camera prices down.

We amateurs may not require state of the art technology in cameras but the interest and appreciation of a good image and the tool that produced it is a strong motive. It makes almost zero sense to acquire these super tools because 99% of those that see these images do not see or appreciate the difference.

It boils down to the adage: One cannot justify a hobby.

WRT the thread topic, I am very close to an upgrade. My current lineup is about 5 years old and consists of:

1D MkII, 20D and 30D, and about 5 consumer lenses with IS; my three L lenses are long-term keepers.

I would like to sell the entire bunch excluding the L's if that would sum to 60% or better of a new purchase. And that new purchase could be, most likely will be, a used pro model in excellent condition.

I welcome some opinions on options that might be pursued.

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Seriously, you'll get over it. The photos were real, you were wrong, and now you're taking it out on random posters.

Lighten up a little...

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Your photography style would be a better fit for a Nikon D800e. Check Michael Reichman's article on Luminous Landscape. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/nikon_d800_or_d800e.shtml

For one, he used to be an avid Canon shooter since the Canon D30 was released. He owned and used the 1D, 1Ds, 5D, 1Ds2, 5D2, and 1Ds3. I don't remember ever him owning a Nikon. He just placed an order for a Nikon D800e, to be delivered mid-april.

If, like me, you feel you cannot switch because you are invested in Canon gear (lenses, strobes, remotes, ...), this is exactly why i feel bitter and betrayed by Canon. To hear that Canon is not risking losing people like me, because they got us by the b*lls (elevated switching cost), while in the interim, they decide not to fathom or cater to landscape/studio/macro and advanced amateur photographers, just shows me how arrogant this company has become.

Time to consider my canon gear as sunk cost, and move on. At least, that is my decision, and as they say, your mileage may vary.
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CBuff said:
CBuff wrote:

If, like me, you feel you cannot switch because you are invested in Canon gear (lenses, strobes, remotes, ...), this is exactly why i feel bitter and betrayed by Canon. To hear that Canon is not risking losing people like me, because they got us by the b*lls (elevated switching cost), while in the interim, they decide not to fathom or cater to landscape/studio/macro and advanced amateur photographers, just shows me how arrogant this company has become.
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It concerns me when I read stuff like this. Just because Canon have introduced a camera which probably isn't aimed at landscape and studio photographers and Nikon have, do you think this makes Canon arrogant?

Because they haven't introduced their own version yet? How on earth do you know that they are not working on something right at this moment? How do you know it won't be absolutely amazing and have people like you dancing in the streets? Of course you don't know either way but that doesn't make them arrogant.

What would you like - someone from Canon to call you up personally and give you the details of their future product road map. It's just not going to happen is it, for obvious reasons. But that does not make them arrogant.
CBuff said:
Time to consider my canon gear as sunk cost, and move on. At least, that is my decision, and as they say, your mileage may vary.
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Pause for breath and think about this rationally. You might even want to wait a bit and see what happens. If at that stage you want to move on then that's your decision and who can argue?
 
lol, what? You seem to be mistaking a lot of things here. Nobody is serious on the internet. You should know that by now.
dmanthree said:
Seriously, you'll get over it. The photos were real, you were wrong, and now you're taking it out on random posters.

Lighten up a little...
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Just because Canon didn't tag along with the 36MP and no AA doesn't mean it won't get the job done with "just" 22MP. People can compare themselves to "pro" photographers as much as they want. In the end, it depends if U need it for your kind of photography.

I'm just an amateur, mostly shoot landscapes and an occasional wedding. I got 2 5Dm2's and 5 L lenses. Why? 5Dm2 is a nice portrait/landscape camera. How i see it is that the 5Dm3 actually is way better for me as a wedding photographer. Better AF, more FPS and i don't know why almost nobody bothers to mention it... Silent Shooting. I'm getting one at the end of the month and replacing the other some time later.
 
Canon knew there are people who like to be mugged.
expro said:
everybody thinks 5d3 is good camera and definitely fills a niche or two...

but is very very expensive at $4800 in Uk....

and not as good in many areas as a competitor product that is $1000 cheaper...

I just don't want to be mugged... simple as that.
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People why argue? Your camera doesn't need to be the best camera for the money. It's OK, like many of us, to say you have investigated too much in Canon system and has to stay but it will just make you look silly if you try to insist Canon is the best choice. To be honest I can't see why a person with some sense who buys his/her first dslr would choose 5DII rather than D800.
SunnyTM said:
Just because Canon didn't tag along with the 36MP and no AA doesn't mean it won't get the job done with "just" 22MP. People can compare themselves to "pro" photographers as much as they want. In the end, it depends if U need it for your kind of photography.

I'm just an amateur, mostly shoot landscapes and an occasional wedding. I got 2 5Dm2's and 5 L lenses. Why? 5Dm2 is a nice portrait/landscape camera. How i see it is that the 5Dm3 actually is way better for me as a wedding photographer. Better AF, more FPS and i don't know why almost nobody bothers to mention it... Silent Shooting. I'm getting one at the end of the month and replacing the other some time later.
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