18-55mm + 55-200mm or 18-105mm?

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I'm thinking about selling my 18-55mm and 55-200mm and getting a 18-105mm (maybe used); I think I can do all this with no out of pocket cost. On the pro side, it would be good that I won't have to keep changing between the two lenses (I usually shoot between 18-85mm), but on the con side, I think the combo has better optics and of course a longer total range than the 18-105mm.

Could you please provide some insight into whether this is a good move or not? I can't afford to buy the 18-200mm right but that would probably be the best option.

Thanks!

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At one point, I was in the sames situation. I sold the 18-55, kept the 55-200VR and bought an 18-105VR. I like having the overlap. I generally use the 18-105VR as my standard lens and swap to the 55-200 as needed. If I started from scratch, I would have the 18-105VR and the 70-300VR or Tamron VC.

As it turned out I've got the Tokina 12-24 f/4 DX-II for wide-angle, the 18-105VR as my walkabout or standard lens, the 55-200VR and the Tamron 70-300VC for longer range and the 35mm f1.8 for indoors natural lighting. When I purchased the Tamron I had planned to sell the 55-200VR, but just couldn't do it. It has a good range (the 55 short end is very usefull) has great image quality and is very small and light.

Of course I have future purchase plans. Once you incur lens lust, it never ends!
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Tom
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Depends on what you like to shoot, my situation is reversed from yours.

I got the 18-105 as a kit lens with the D7000, but didn't use the long end much.

I promptly got a 35mm and shelved it, now I have a 17-50 2.8 and the 55-200vr for those 'just can't reach' moments and it's stayed on the shelf.

Can't quite bring myself to sell it though, it's such a handy focal range it makes a decent holiday lens when you are limited on space.
 
You should check out the Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 II DC OS HSM. Optically it's just as good as the Nikon 18-200 vr, but it's a lot cheaper.
 
Thanks for all the feedbacks! I never thought about keeping the 55-200mm and just selling the 18-55mm. That could be an option to keep the 200mm range but I'll be paying some money out of pocket.

I can't use the Sigma since I own a D5100 and it doesn't have a built-in motor. =( I have to stay with AF-S lenses.

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I can't use the Sigma since I own a D5100 and it doesn't have a built-in motor. =( I have to stay with AF-S lenses.
That is not correct. Sigma's HSM lenses are their Nikon AF-S equivalent. That lens will definitely auto focus on your D5100.

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James
 
If you usually shoot between 18-85mm then the 18-105mm is a good option for you.

I consider myself fairly fussy yet I've been impressed with that lens it's a very good performer overall and covers a useful range. It does not replace lots of lenses, but makes a good all round day out lens.

The 18-55mm kit is decent, but frankly I'm bored of the range which is a bit short tele end for my tastes (a kit 18-70mm would be more interesting)

I'm def keeping the 18-105mm even with other lenses it's a very handy and good performer.
 
If you usually shoot 18-85, you may like the 16-85 VR then get the 70-300 VR. both lens will share the same 67mm filter. Depends when the stock from Thailand returns to normal & your $$.
 
Many moons ago I replaced my 18-55 and 55-200VR with an 18-105. I've never regretted that decision. The 18-105VR performed better than either of those 2 lenses.

I eventually added the 70-300VR and the 35 1.8. To me that's a very compelling, reasonably priced set of lenses for the DX line-up.
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James
 
Thanks so much for this info!! Now there are a lot more lenses I can explore!! I also have a 35mm f/1.8; it is one of my favorite lenses and I hope to add its bigger brother, the 85mm f/1.8 to it for portrait... but now that I know I can use third-party lenses...
I can't use the Sigma since I own a D5100 and it doesn't have a built-in motor. =( I have to stay with AF-S lenses.
That is not correct. Sigma's HSM lenses are their Nikon AF-S equivalent. That lens will definitely auto focus on your D5100.

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James
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I have been eyeing the 16-85mm one as my friend has it and it has a very solid built. I turned my attention to the 18-105mm since it is so much cheaper. Photography on a budget doesn't really work out well huh? Haha.
If you usually shoot 18-85, you may like the 16-85 VR then get the 70-300 VR. both lens will share the same 67mm filter. Depends when the stock from Thailand returns to normal & your $$.
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A year back I had the first two with my D3100;18-55mm VR and 55-200mm VR. Eventually, I found out that I was'nt using the 55-200mm VR much hence six months down the line I sold the zoom. I am enjoying the 18-55mm VR for now.

Recently, I get tempted on selling my 18-55mm and going for 18-105mm VR since many come up for sales on local craigslist. Time and again I read reviews indicating that the 18-55mm VR is sharper and better than the 18-105mm VR, hence I give up the move.

More better option I look for is a 17-50 or 17-55 from Sigma/Tamron so as to get a faster lens.
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Currently, I am considering getting an 18-105mm for my D40 to have a walk around and travel lens. I use the 18-55mm and 55-200mm as well at the 35mm f1.8. I've been using 35mm a lot more recently.

Here's what Thom Hogan has to say about the 18-55mm and 55-200, especially the VR versions.

http://bythom.com/rationallenses.htm
Economy DX

First up, let’s go the economy route for DX sensor DSLRs (basically all Nikon mount DSLRs except for the D700, D3, D3s, D3x, and the Kodak Pro 14n/SLRn). Here’s the low-cost portfolio that makes sense to me:
18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S VR DX
55-200mm f/4-5.6G AF-S VR DX

(If you need more reach, the 55-300mm f/4-5.6G AF-S VR DX is pretty much optically the same as the 55-200mm in the shared range. If you need a fast normal lens, augment the set with the 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX.)

What you give up in the economy kit is low-light capability. Both these lenses use 52mm filters, which means you can standardize on a small filter set. You’re going to use the 18-55mm on the camera most of the time, swapping in the 55-200mm when you need real telephoto. These lenses are far better than you'd expect for their low cost. Indeed, each generation of the 18-55mm has improved to the point where the current VR version has little to complain about in terms of performance. What you have is near state-of-the-art optics between 18mm and 70mm. At f/8 and f/11 and those focal lengths, this kit can produce results pretty much on par with the more expensive lenses you covet. Even at 200mm the results hold up quite well, though they're not state-of-the-art. Neither of these lenses is much prone to chromatic aberration, and neither has high levels of linear distortion. Both tend to have significant light fall-off wide open, but it rapidly drops to acceptable levels. The VR works, and the AF-S makes for reasonably snappy focus, though it isn't the same speed AF-S as the more expensive lenses. Let me put it another way: in terms of image quality, these two low-cost lenses have very little to complain about. They produce very nice images.

What these lenses don't have is a lot of mechanical or build quality finesse. They are made of polycarbonates (even the mounts) and aren't going to withstand outright abuse well. The zoom and focus rings aren't the best Nikon has produced, though they work decently enough. Both lenses are very small and light. The lens hood designs are terrible and prone to break.

The only way you can improve on the economy kit is to spend much more money. Even buying used lenses will cost you a lot more money to make any tangible improvement. For example, the next step up in image quality for the telephoto end would be a used 80-200mm f/2.8, and that'll come at more than double the cost of the 55-200mm. True, you then get a wider maximum aperture, slightly better 200mm results, better build quality, and a tripod mount, but you also get a big increase in size and weight.
The Leave-Out-The-Middle-Go-DX-As-Light-as-Possible option (the “Galen”):
18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S VR (not yet reviewed on this site)
55-200mm f/4-5.6G AF-S VR

Yep, they're back! The modern equivalent of Galen’s travel lenses would be a 14mm f/2.8 and the 55-200mm, but I'd settle for this duo. With a D3100, these two lenses plus the 35mm f/1.8G DX are the bomb as far as light and good.

Again, those of you considering going the Super Zoom route (18-200mm, or perhaps the new Tamron 28-300mm): don't. The 18-200mm is a good lens, but it is out performed by both combos I just mentioned.

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Thanks for the article, I didn't know that Thom Hogan covered this exact topic. He seems pretty knowledgeable and makes a good case for keeping the combo. Maybe I just need to learn to love switching lenses or to do it faster when I'm out and about.
Currently, I am considering getting an 18-105mm for my D40 to have a walk around and travel lens. I use the 18-55mm and 55-200mm as well at the 35mm f1.8. I've been using 35mm a lot more recently.

Here's what Thom Hogan has to say about the 18-55mm and 55-200, especially the VR versions.

http://bythom.com/rationallenses.htm
Economy DX

First up, let’s go the economy route for DX sensor DSLRs (basically all Nikon mount DSLRs except for the D700, D3, D3s, D3x, and the Kodak Pro 14n/SLRn). Here’s the low-cost portfolio that makes sense to me:
18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S VR DX
55-200mm f/4-5.6G AF-S VR DX
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I was considering the 18-200 but ended up getting the Sigma 18-250mm for a "walkabout" lens with my D3100. Jack of all trades-master of none. One lens for day trips. Worked very well on vacation when I didnt want more than my camera with me. Ive got a 35mm f1.8,the kit 18-55mm and the 70-300 ED VR fx format to round things out. The kit 18-55 gets the least use I'd say though it works quite well for a cheap lens.
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Bob
 
According to your original post you are what Thom Hogan calls the "economy DX" type, am I right? And you obviously don't like changing lenses.

So do I (among other things because of the sensor dust problem) and for that reason I bought the 18-200 (Sigma OS HSM).

With this lens you are able to match all situations in normal day life and travel and even moderate animal/birding situations.

Don't bother about less quality. I rarely need to PP the flaws this lens apparently has in relation to the Nikon f.i. You can read about these flaws in all reviews. But I guess, they will not bother you.

Only in low light situations the lens isn't very strong (as is the Nikon, btw). It's not a fast lens but still not slower than your kitlens 18-55, namely f3.5 (the point its flaws are of course most significant so gaine your ISO setting).

Better: for low light purchase a 35/1.8 AF-S after a while when you are financially there. You don't need to let you drag into the lens-lust-race. Beware, that never ends.

Btw: I still kept my 18-55 kitlens because I don't think there's much fascination for it to buy. And for real birding I have a 120-400mm Sigma OS HSM. But 70% of the time I have my 18-200 mounted, 29% the long zoom and 1 % the kitlens.

Good luck. H.
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Happy photographing!
 
I'm not really a telephoto guy and the 18-105 VR is my perfect "walk around" lens. It's sharper than any 18-55 (II or VR) I ever had. I have a ton of lenses and if a thief made off with all of them except my 18-105 VR I'd breathe a sigh of relief.

Yes, I also have a 55-200 VR that I use, like tomorrow when I'm doing shots of my aspiring model neighbor downtown. I compared with my 18-105 VR and they were so close at equal focal lengths I'm leaving the 18-105 VR at home.
 
I just got an 18-105 to replace my kit lens and love it! I bought a refurb on adorama for a steal @ $220 and its like new. (I think I got the last of their stock since it's not up on the site anymore). No only an awesome DX range but also sharper than my old 18-55VR.
 
Thanks for all the feedbacks! I'm going traveling this week to NY and will bring the 18-55/55-200mm combo with me. I'll see how useful they are out and about but I'm betting that I'll get a bit frustrated. I already have the 35mm f/1.8 and will take that as well. When I get back from that trip, I'll make the decision.

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