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Arrived from Amazon after lunch. While the battery charges, I put in an SD card, mounted my 21mm Ltd, and have been turning it around in my hands getting familiar with it. Some thoughts on the body itself:

Build quality is tight and solid, neither heavy duty nor cheap. All the buttons depress with a definitive pressure click, the dials have clear detentes and the on/off switch snaps firmly between positions. Pretty happy about this, I can't stand vague controls and hard-to-activate buttons (like the Menu button on the Fuji X100).

Without the battery in yet, the camera is left-heavy and you can feel how inadequate the grip is. Your fingers want at least another 1/4 inch.

The biggest design flaw I see right now is the rubber cover. As I feared, once I opened it I couldn't get it back in place. After five minutes of opening and closing, I worked out the best technique, which is to seat it flat a little bit out from the body, then slide it closed. This is truly lousy. An Eye-Fi card is the only one way I see around this problem. I'm assuming the transfer rate is much slower than with a cord or card reader, but I'll probably get one rather face this fiddly mess on a regular basis. The little cover over the mic input isn't such a hassle.

Battery door cover is excellent, spring-loaded and no vagueness there. You'd be surprised how many battery doors really suck (cough, Nikon D5100).

The 'clunking' of the SR mechanism we're used to feeling from the DSLRs with the power off, is almost non-existent. You feel it shift just a bit (there's much less play) and you barely hear it. The flash doesn't pop up without power, so no feedback on that.

Overall, the controversy about the appearance seems overrated. You look at it sitting there on your desk for half an hour, it becomes just another camera, at least in black with a regular Ltd prime mounted (originally I had ordered yellow, then chickened out). I skipped on the XS lens, I already have a 40mm.

If there's anything surprising to report about using it, I'll follow up, though I'm guessing over the next week we'll see enough reviews rolling in that most questions will be answered. Right now I'm mainly curious about the LCD visibility in sunlight.
 
Build quality is tight and solid, neither heavy duty nor cheap. All the buttons depress with a definitive pressure click, the dials have clear detentes and the on/off switch snaps firmly between positions.
Is the exterior body aluminum with paint? We were trying to figure this out in another thread, and the wording makes it sound like the exterior is aluminum.

I didn't like the looks at all at first, now I think it is okay. There is still 1 angle I don't like the looks, but I think it has grown on me to the point I don't care anymore.

Edit: Thanks for the feedback by the way, nice to see some hands on reports and enjoy the camera.

Eric

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Is the exterior body aluminum with paint? We were trying to figure this out in another thread, and the wording makes it sound like the exterior is aluminum.

I didn't like the looks at all at first, now I think it is okay. There is still 1 angle I don't like the looks, but I think it has grown on me to the point I don't care anymore.

Edit: Thanks for the feedback by the way, nice to see some hands on reports and enjoy the camera.

Eric
Hi Eric,

Almost certainly painted metal, even the flash cover feels cool to the touch.

Thanks for the well wishes, I hope to get out this weekend with it.

Btw, if you don't like a corded battery charger, the modular Apple electric plugs fit into the charging block so you can plug it directly into the wall.

BB
 
Can you confirm that there is not autofocus when shooting video (except at the start)?
 
Almost 4 hours now and still not finished. I just checked the manual and it takes up to 320 MINUTES for a fully empty battery. Really, Pentax? Feels like I'm back in 2002.

I'm tempted to try one of the Wasabi chargers, they seem to be much faster but I'm wary of quick-charging batteries that may not be designed to handle it. Anyone have experience with third-party solutions?
 
Can you confirm that there is not autofocus when shooting video (except at the start)?
Battery finally charged. Using the 21mm Ltd, there was no automatic AF during video (even at the start). I pressed the AF/AEL button during recording and it did AF, slowly. I would be curious to try with an SDM lens, but I don't own any.
 
the $20 pearstone battery & generic charger from ebay or B&H seems to be fine for my K-5 --- I don't know about charging time as I just have it run overnight....
 
Thanks. I think something around 2 hours is reasonable, took almost 5 hours for the D-Li90.
 
Thanks. I think something around 2 hours is reasonable, took almost 5 hours for the D-Li90.
Ideally, have 2 batteries and rotate them out. Charging time is irrelevant then. I agree, 2 hours would be better, but more cameras and electronics are going to slower charging batteries I believe due to being safer (less likely to have a cell explode or something).

Eric

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I never saw an ugly thing in my life: for let the form of an object
be what it may - light, shade, and perspective will always make it
beautiful. - John Constable (quote)

See my Blog at: http://www.erphotoreview.com/ (bi-weekly)
Flickr Photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28177041@N03/ (updated daily)
 
Ideally, have 2 batteries and rotate them out. Charging time is irrelevant then. I agree, 2 hours would be better, but more cameras and electronics are going to slower charging batteries I believe due to being safer (less likely to have a cell explode or something).

Eric
I ordered a spare today, along with a Samsung 32GB SD card. Good point about the safety issue, I imagine there are a certain number of complaints every year about battery hazards and the companies want to reduce their risk. I can probably live with the slow charging, just not used to seeing this amount of time needed.
 
How fast is the AF? Is it good enough for limiting-fast action (e.g., a person walking at about 3-5m away)?

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Baxter, thanks for the info. When you press the AF button during the video, and it slowly autofocus, do you see the square where the center focus is? Is the AF usable in video, you think?
 
Baxter, thanks for the info. When you press the AF button during the video, and it slowly autofocus, do you see the square where the center focus is? Is the AF usable in video, you think?
Hi Robert,

There's no green box AF confirmation in video. Not only that, in some cases it will stop focusing part of the way, other times it focuses fully and correctly. My impression is that the AF is not very usable at least with screw drive lenses, but I'm not the best person to test this.
 
How fast is the AF? Is it good enough for limiting-fast action (e.g., a person walking at about 3-5m away)?
I guess you're asking, is it good enough for street photography? I haven't been out of the house with it yet, afraid I can't give you a realistic answer. Maybe after the weekend I'll know, if so, I'll respond. AF for still subjects is very reasonable, which doesn't help, I know. But I own the Q as well and I don't find that very good for street. The K-01 seems a little faster and more accurate than the Q, seems possible it will make a usable street cam. Curious to know myself as I do a lot of travel.
 
Shooting around the house in low light, AF locks on reliably and so far the accuracy is dead on. As a former K-r owner, it's a relief to be rid of the tungsten problem.

Also, the shutter sound is beautifully soft. I was taking a shot of my wife and when she heard it, she commented on how quiet it was. She remembers the K-20D and K-r. I used the flash and the exposure was great.
 
Thanks, for the info. You know, being one of the few to own a K-01 so early, the rest of us hang from your lips for any info on the critical, nail-biting, features of this unique camera. :-) I own a Sigma DP2 and it does struggle a lot, even with the latest, --AF-improved-- firmware, to AF on moving subjects fast enough in order to get the shot. I know K-r's LV AF is faster than the DP2's but I can't tell from the available AF-related videos how K-01 compares to K-r's in terms of LV AF speed.
How fast is the AF? Is it good enough for limiting-fast action (e.g., a person walking at about 3-5m away)?
I guess you're asking, is it good enough for street photography? I haven't been out of the house with it yet, afraid I can't give you a realistic answer. Maybe after the weekend I'll know, if so, I'll respond. AF for still subjects is very reasonable, which doesn't help, I know. But I own the Q as well and I don't find that very good for street. The K-01 seems a little faster and more accurate than the Q, seems possible it will make a usable street cam. Curious to know myself as I do a lot of travel.
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Thanks, for the info. You know, being one of the few to own a K-01 so early, the rest of us hang from your lips for any info on the critical, nail-biting, features of this unique camera. :-) I own a Sigma DP2 and it does struggle a lot, even with the latest, --AF-improved-- firmware, to AF on moving subjects fast enough in order to get the shot. I know K-r's LV AF is faster than the DP2's but I can't tell from the available AF-related videos how K-01 compares to K-r's in terms of LV AF speed.
Definitely faster than K-r live view. And the shutter is nearly silent, another plus for street/doc.
 
It was sunny today, took the K-01 to a nearby park. LCD visibility was excellent, much better than the iPhone for example. Also better than my E-P3 and Q, about equal to the GRD4.

Battery life was great, never dipped from the full marker in two hours of use.

I changed lenses three times. The camera never locked up or experienced anything resembling a glitch. Tip for Steve Huff: Turn the camera off before changing lenses.

It's pretty much a K-r minus the VF, with a better sensor and movie modes, and a much quieter shutter. Wish there were some custom setting banks. Maybe Pentax will use the K-5 body for a weather sealed mirrorless offering with EVF technology from the Ricoh VF2. Yeah, right.
 
I would not say that. K-r using CD AF is pretty hopeless in low light (given the fact that a great deal of low-light-times the subject is illuminated by tungsten light). If K-01 has faster PD AF then it can perform where K-r simply cannot.
It's pretty much a K-r minus the VF, with a better sensor and movie modes, and a much quieter shutter. Wish there were some custom setting banks. Maybe Pentax will use the K-5 body for a weather sealed mirrorless offering with EVF technology from the Ricoh VF2. Yeah, right.
 
I would not say that. K-r using CD AF is pretty hopeless in low light (given the fact that a great deal of low-light-times the subject is illuminated by tungsten light). If K-01 has faster PD AF then it can perform where K-r simply cannot.
It's the other way around, K-r is using PD AF (except in live view mode, where it reverts to CD AF), K--01 has only CD AF available. K-r in live view mode will focus fine in tungsten light (but slower).
 

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