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Louis_Dobson · Mar 1, 2012

But then don't I remember you don't much like landscapes in the first place?

rrr_hhh said:
Well, they are just too much for my taste, too saturated, too well too much of everything.
They are kitsch in the end.

I prefer more natural renderings and subjects showing our world as it is, not like the page of a monthly calendar, nor like a postcard.

Louis_Dobson said:

Wow.

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Louis_Dobson · Mar 1, 2012

I'd be surprised. I one knows what one is doing, one does not need an HDR program.

Here's one of mine (my best, I think). People often ask me what HDR program I used. There is no HDR,, all I've done is bring some of the rock up a bit because it was too dark to see the detail I(and because I was working to a 9PM deadline and started at 8:50PM it is a bit hasty). It is more or less out of camera. The skill is to be there , and that means knowing what the light will look like, knowing what the tides will do, knowing what the effect of the wind will be, understanding what the clouds will me, knowing the access roads, visualising the shots months or years in advance, and thus being able to look at the light and say "Yes! Now I know how and where I could use this !"

Ellen 1 said:
I think the HDR program has been used on a lot of them. i do think they look stunning though.
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Pieter Klapwijk · Mar 1, 2012

I'm with you. While the compositions, perspectives, angles and all that might be interesting, the processing get tedious. It's overdone, like black velvet pictures at an 80's drive-in sale....

Louis_Dobson · Mar 1, 2012

Thank you. I shall look him up. This stuff is not a million miles form my own look, and I've not heard of him...

Tim F 101 said:
Galen Rowell titled his site and his first book 'mountain light' and the pics capture Rowell's technique: the wide lens mountainscapes with split ND filters, the Velvia saturated look, fogscapes and the sublime vistas over a subtle image. There is a little more range in tone than in Rowell's work, but less creative use of camera perspective or pre-visualized light wizardry, and less of that Nat Geo human touch. Rowell loved mountain people. This guy is a credible student of the Rowell school of photography, something I hoped to reach myself (and fell well short) when I bought my first used FE2 in '97.

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papillon_65 · Mar 1, 2012

is having the commitment and dedication to travel to the locations and chase the light IMHO. People can debate about whether the post processing is overdone or not but location and light are the key factors for getting shots such as these. This takes a dedication that I take my hat off to. I don't think there is anybody here who wouldn't be proud to have such a portfolio. M4/3's is clearly capable of such shots and when people agonise over how such dynamic range can be captured they should be thinking about tripods and graduated ND filters. These will often make far more difference than upgrading to the latest and greatest sensor. I've seen some stunning 4/3's stuff from cameras that have less dynamic range than the oldest Pens. I've got some ND grads coming myself and am hoping to put them to good use when they arrive. If I can capture shots anywhere near these I'll be happy.
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Kuppenbender · Mar 1, 2012

Louis_Dobson said:
If that is not enough, I apply a virtual graduated ND in Lightroom (this is as easy as clicking a button these days).

Just upgraded to LR3 form LR1 (free with my GX1, PC not up to LR4 unfortunately).
I hadn't discovered the ND filter function yet.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Now I'll have to start working on getting hold of an ultra-wide lens.

Wiggerz · Mar 1, 2012

Splendid image Louis.
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Wiggerz · Mar 1, 2012

has the information age created too much of nothing? It is said one can never have enough influences ..sometimes i wonder!
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Wiggerz · Mar 1, 2012

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Jun2 · Mar 1, 2012

they are ok.

SpiralTower · Mar 1, 2012

Guy Parsons said:
Post process cooking is fun & impressive for some shots, but the same scene in real life never looks like that. It's altering the shot to reflect what the photographer wanted to see. Sorry, but I'm a reality fanboy, that's why your plant and flower shots look OK to me.

That about sums it up. Shooting in Greece since several years during summer with harsh light does not make for impressive "art style" images. The reality is not some kind of refined artwork, but hot, dirty and sweaty. For me it is mostly "documenting places", but for the walls at home I'd still rather prefer a well-cooked illusion ;-) (for those dreadfully cold and wet winter days).

Concerning the link provided by Louis, I already commented favorably here since the relevant person posted some of his images some time ago in this forum (I think related to the 12mm lens). I very much like his choice of subject, and the way he plays with the texture of the "material" (e.g., roots), though I think in some cases the colors are a bit too strong.

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Louis_Dobson · Mar 1, 2012

+1.

Off to chase the light....

papillon_65 said:
is having the commitment and dedication to travel to the locations and chase the light IMHO. People can debate about whether the post processing is overdone or not but location and light are the key factors for getting shots such as these. This takes a dedication that I take my hat off to. I don't think there is anybody here who wouldn't be proud to have such a portfolio. M4/3's is clearly capable of such shots and when people agonise over how such dynamic range can be captured they should be thinking about tripods and graduated ND filters. These will often make far more difference than upgrading to the latest and greatest sensor. I've seen some stunning 4/3's stuff from cameras that have less dynamic range than the oldest Pens. I've got some ND grads coming myself and am hoping to put them to good use when they arrive. If I can capture shots anywhere near these I'll be happy.
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boyzo · Mar 1, 2012

papillon_65 said:
is having the commitment and dedication to travel to the locations and chase the light IMHO. People can debate about whether the post processing is overdone or not but location and light are the key factors for getting shots such as these. This takes a dedication that I take my hat off to. I don't think there is anybody here who wouldn't be proud to have such a portfolio. M4/3's is clearly capable of such shots and when people agonise over how such dynamic range can be captured they should be thinking about tripods and graduated ND filters. These will often make far more difference than upgrading to the latest and greatest sensor. I've seen some stunning 4/3's stuff from cameras that have less dynamic range than the oldest Pens. I've got some ND grads coming myself and am hoping to put them to good use when they arrive. If I can capture shots anywhere near these I'll be happy.
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tinternaut · Mar 2, 2012

I assumed they'd been taken with full frame or large format film, then I saw the EXIF.....

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Guy Parsons · Mar 2, 2012

ShatteredSky said:
That about sums it up. Shooting in Greece since several years during summer with harsh light does not make for impressive "art style" images. The reality is not some kind of refined artwork, but hot, dirty and sweaty. For me it is mostly "documenting places", but for the walls at home I'd still rather prefer a well-cooked illusion ;-) (for those dreadfully cold and wet winter days).

Yes, I know the problem. If travelling then timetables and bookings drive me then there often is no chance to wait around for the light to be right. That means 99.9% of my stuff is just documenting what I see as I move about. Naturally framing and composition matter to me, but I'm nearly always stuck with the light I've got.

Now and then my wife and I lapse into camera club mode and shoot some arty details but that's not really my style now.

Regards...... Guy

Louis_Dobson · Mar 2, 2012

You don't think the same about mine!

tinternaut said:
I assumed they'd been taken with full frame or large format film, then I saw the EXIF.....

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tinternaut · Mar 2, 2012

Were surprising..... I had assumed there was at least an element of HDR in your work. I see now why the sensor in the E-PM5 was such a big issue for you.

BTW, I think your photos are perfectly splendid.

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Marla2008 · Mar 2, 2012

I totally respect your opinion Louis and was only speaking for myself (although a lot seemed to share this view). And I understand that a pic that would move me to tears could equally bore you... To tears, and the other way around. Appreciation of art and general, and photography in particular, are totally personal things. Like the things that scare, amuse, or arouse us, for that matter. Again, those shots are masterfully done and of course the first reaction is jaw dropping. But to me, that turns into yawning right away. Which doesn't take anything from them, so congrats to Brian for making them.

Louis_Dobson said:
And the reverse of what I feel of course. To me they are amazing captures of scene and light. Speaking as someone who does them myself, I know they are pretty close to reality, if you wish to see this stuff in the wild, all you need is time, patience, skill, and anticipation of the light. PP has very little to do with.

People shots are boring to me. People are only interesting when one can interact with them, so looking at them is dull. Landscapes, on the other hand, are visual in the first place.

Marla2008 said:

In its glorious predictability. Could I do the same ? Heck no ! Do I wish I could ? Hmm.. Maybe, maybe not. Great PP skills but didn't give me the start of one emotion, it's all been done a thousand times before. For all we know those images could be entirely computer generated, we'd never know the difference...

That's flawless technic without a hint of poetry, like a perfect body with zero sex appeal.

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Xellz · Mar 2, 2012

Seems he's using a lot of different graduated ND filters, i don't even think he PP photos that much. Without filters it's quite difficult to expose everything properly and not always you will be able to bring it back in PP (that's where higher DR of FF or even APS-C sensor can help)

AlextheSiberian said:
Hen3ry said:

Please!

Oops! And I'm talking to the Siberian! Colors aqnd sun forsooth!

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Geoff, sorry mate, but care to elaborate? I didn't get your comment

Do you mean his images are overdone? As someone, who does little to no PPing, the grass always seems greener on the other side. I was imply impressed with the way both the sky and the foreground are properly exposed....

I find that my biggest challenge!

Alex

Xellz · Mar 2, 2012

Enjoyed this gallery quite a lot. I can imagine that they would look nice on a wall inside fitting frame. It's nice to see photographers who found style they like and stick to it further improving their skills with each photo taken. Quite many people try to do everything at once and can't get stunning results without luck involved, i was like that too. I hope to not repeat those mistakes when i return to photography again, this time with m4/3. Greatly reduced size will help a lot to enjoy taking photos

Just one of few photos where i didn't think at all about making "technically correct" photo and didn't care much about if other people didn't like it, it fits my taste and this is what important, it's a hobby after all.

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