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Lucky I hadn't actually polished the glass. Still, each orb gets its own orb.





Underexposing kills orbs ... or not.





A bit less underexposed.





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OOC jpeg. Sorry
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“There is only you and your camera. The limitations in your photography are in yourself, for what we see is what we are.” Ernst Haas

http://garyp.zenfolio.com/p518883873/
 
First picture: 7.1 mm, ISO 100, 10/300 sec, f2.2, 0 EV
Second picture: 7.6 mm, ISO 100, 10/300 sec, f2.2, 0 EV
OOC???
 
Don't try to out clever yourself.

Maybe flash fired less strongly the second time. It was all metered by the camera. And if it was a simple post-processing job ALL the orbs would be in the second picture instead of just one. This was EXR auto choice.

“There is only you and your camera. The limitations in your photography are in yourself, for what we see is what we are.” Ernst Haas

http://garyp.zenfolio.com/p518883873/
 
I have seen a lot of examples of the Orb issue and quite a few of the examples I just do not understand. I have decided that I cannot be a real photographer as I do not study every square micron of my images and go into them at 100% or greater magnification to ensure that there are no issues with my images.

Your example here is what I am talking about. YES, there are ORBS present (I can see 3 in total (1 on the snowman in the first globe from the left, and 2 in the second globe from the left)). Are they a major issue or distraction in the overall composition? Not for me as they make up probably less than 1% of the total frame.

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Canon Can...Can you??
 
nothsafoto said:
I have seen a lot of examples of the Orb issue and quite a few of the examples I just do not understand. I have decided that I cannot be a real photographer as I do not study every square micron of my images and go into them at 100% or greater magnification to ensure that there are no issues with my images.

Your example here is what I am talking about. YES, there are ORBS present (I can see 3 in total (1 on the snowman in the first globe from the left, and 2 in the second globe from the left)). Are they a major issue or distraction in the overall composition? Not for me as they make up probably less than 1% of the total frame.

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Canon Can...Can you??
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The fact that they are there at all is an issue , and of course once you find them in your photos you will soon find yourself checking each and every one for more .

Perfectly round white punchholes are so very unnatural looking that you cant help but notice.
 
Some of us have higher standards and expectations

Even if the camera were $300
nothsafoto said:
I have seen a lot of examples of the Orb issue and quite a few of the examples I just do not understand. I have decided that I cannot be a real photographer as I do not study every square micron of my images and go into them at 100% or greater magnification to ensure that there are no issues with my images.

Your example here is what I am talking about. YES, there are ORBS present (I can see 3 in total (1 on the snowman in the first globe from the left, and 2 in the second globe from the left)). Are they a major issue or distraction in the overall composition? Not for me as they make up probably less than 1% of the total frame.

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Canon Can...Can you??
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“There is only you and your camera. The limitations in your photography are in yourself, for what we see is what we are.” Ernst Haas

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aeneon said:
The fact that they are there at all is an issue , and of course once you find them in your photos you will soon find yourself checking each and every one for more. Perfectly round white punchholes are so very unnatural looking that you cant help but notice.
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That's an interesting phenomenon. Our eyes can even spot things we aren't consciously looking for; sometimes things even register in our subconscious and we aren't aware of the fact.

I knew a guy once who could just stare into a small area of clover and in a few seconds he could spot one clover with four leaves instead of three. He wasn't examining each one yet very quickly he could spot the 4-leaf. His brain, maybe subconsciously, was checking that whole patch looking for a particular pattern and able to find it in short order.

Once you become orb-sensitized I doubt you could help but see every little orb that exists. I couldn't be happy with that.
 
nothsafoto said:
Are they a major issue or distraction in the overall composition? Not for me as they make up probably less than 1% of the total frame.
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So does a light pole sticking out of someone's head, or the two dogs shagging in the background of a wedding photograph.

Both ruin the photo, and so do orbs.




nothsafoto said:
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Canon Can...Can you??
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My other cameras can handle it with these orbs without giving me more orbs.

Why can't my X10?

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“There is only you and your camera. The limitations in your photography are in yourself, for what we see is what we are.” Ernst Haas

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In your example I agree more. The Orbs are more prominent and make up a good part of the scene so are more distracting to the viewer.

Unfortunately this issue will continue to bug those of you who shoot in these particular conditions and now that your eyes are tuned for Orbs you will spot them in every shot. Fuji more than likely will not be able to do anything about this issue as no Firmware will cure this and there is no way they can do a recall and replace the sensors (even if they had a replacement available).

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Canon Can...Can you??
 
nothsafoto said:
In your example I agree more.
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Sorry.. yes, you are right - it is very dependant on just how prominent the orbs are, as well as how many, and where..
nothsafoto said:
The Orbs are more prominent and make up a good part of the scene so are more distracting to the viewer.

Unfortunately this issue will continue to bug those of you who shoot in these particular conditions and now that your eyes are tuned for Orbs you will spot them in every shot. Fuji more than likely will not be able to do anything about this issue as no Firmware will cure this and there is no way they can do a recall and replace the sensors (even if they had a replacement available).
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There are a few things they could do, but won't probably mainly out of fear of lawsuits (heavy discount voucher on a new model, return and full replace with new model, sensor swap-out if new one is available).

The problem is their arrogance and underhanded behaviour is all of this - saying that this is how it's supposed to be, and they orbs are just normal sensor bloom, is purely patronising and despicable.

"Fuji.. you're d-d-d-d-dithpicable!"
nothsafoto said:
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Canon Can...Can you??
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nothsafoto said:
I have seen a lot of examples of the Orb issue and quite a few of the examples I just do not understand. I have decided that I cannot be a real photographer as I do not study every square micron of my images and go into them at 100% or greater magnification to ensure that there are no issues with my images.

Your example here is what I am talking about. YES, there are ORBS present (I can see 3 in total (1 on the snowman in the first globe from the left, and 2 in the second globe from the left)). Are they a major issue or distraction in the overall composition? Not for me as they make up probably less than 1% of the total frame.
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If I click once, the image becomes 15x25 cm on my screen - and I clearly see the orbs. I want a camera that can produce that kind of prints and larger. Even if there are shiny details and distinct lighting.

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FeedMe said:
The problem is their arrogance and underhanded behaviour is all of this - saying that this is how it's supposed to be, and they orbs are just normal sensor bloom, is purely patronising and despicable.
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And now, in the Netherlands at least, their reps are telling people that the new models don't have orbs. Really.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=40779740

Wonder if they keep their fingers crossed when they tell you that.

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“There is only you and your camera. The limitations in your photography are in yourself, for what we see is what we are.” Ernst Haas

http://garyp.zenfolio.com/p518883873/
 
GaryJP said:
And now, in the Netherlands at least, their reps are telling people that the new models don't have orbs. Really.
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Lets hope someone will put that to the test !!
 
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