Preparing for a trip in the fall ... advice sought.

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Hello everyone,

I am relatively new and converter p&s user. I absolutely love my nex-5n and have been using adapters and manual lenses. My wife and I are taking a trip in the fall and I am seeking advice on what type of lens / gear / etc to bring. We will be heading to Italy for 10days.

Some things I know I need:
spare battery
extra sd cards
small camera bag
lightweight tripod? is it worth bringing?

Any other recommendations on gear?

I would prefer to take only 1 or 2 lens and I don't mind purchasing a new lens. I am looking for recommendations? I can imagine shooting landscapes, indoors and maybe some people.

I currently have:
18-55m kit lens
Vivitar 28mm (screw mount)
Pentax 50mm 2.0 (k mount)
Chinon 50mm 1.9 (k mount)

Regards,
Jake

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Sounds like you are missing tele. If you do a lot of video, the SEL18200 is a great choice. For both video and stills.

If you only shoot stills, the SEL50210 is great at the tele end.

A tripod depends on what you shoot. Normally not needed, but if you shoot a lot of dark places, like churches, it may come handy. I also use a tripod when I want to shoot stuff with lots of tourists and want to remove them in post-processing or if I plan time lapses or panos.

Otherwise a gorilla pod is great. Small and flexible. So you end up with pics of the both of you in the end! =;-)

I also use the digimate to copy the contents of my SD cards for the case where something goes wrong or is stolen.
 
Thank you Duncan do you think the SEL18200 would be an all around solid lens if I was looking to take just one?
Sounds like you are missing tele. If you do a lot of video, the SEL18200 is a great choice. For both video and stills.
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I do not own it yet, but the reviews on the web are not bad at all. I have also seen great pictures he on the forum shot with that lens from wide to tele.

But remember: it is HUGE and heavy. But running around with 5 primes is heavy and bulky too...

For best results, look at the reviews on the web to know when your lens performs best - at which apertures.
 
All depends....

What exactly do you want to photograph?

How confortable is your girlfriend with you running around more interested in taking photographs than in enjoying the vacations with you?

From experience, unless your girlfriend really likes photography, she wont like you going around with a lot of gear, with a tripod, with bags, going out at dawn or dusk by yourself to get that special photo, etc. She will probably want to be with you and enjoy the vacations. In that case you have to carry as little as possible, and use the camera as only a vacation snapper.

In that case, just the camera and the kit lens, and maybe the 50mm, or maybe just the 18200. If I had the 18200 I would still take the kit lens, just in case. Leave it in the hotel as a spare lens in case anything happens.

Now your girlfriend could like some of the photos. Specially if she is in them. In that case you could bring other things. For instance the tripod, to take pictures of you both behind a nice building. This could be the excuse to take it, we know you can ask a stranger to take the picture (always choose someone that you think he cant un run you, there are a lot of thefts in italy, specially rome), but you could justify it.

Other small things that you could take are: A gray card for WB of portraits, a small reflector, etc. Small things to make better portraits agains historic buildings or landscapes.

In that case the same, Kit lens + 50mm or 18200 + kit lens as backup.

The 50mm is great for portraits, for getting the shallow DoF, but on vacations, you dont want to get the shallow DoF all the time, specially in places like Italy where you want the background to be important, so probably the second combination is still the best.

Finally, if your GF is into photography as you, you could take more gear, but I wouldn't recommend it. Enjoy the vacations. Take photos as a tourist, not as a photographer. Of course with what you know, to get beautiful momentos, but not to get THE picture. This is your time to relax with your GF.

So, my recommendations is:

18200 + kit lens as backup (prefer this more but is more expensive) or
kit + 50mm (The 50mm is less useful, you want to see the background)

If you want to get your GF as a model in the photos, a gray card and a reflector with a grip (Easy to hold with one hand).

Thats all. More is an overkill for a nice vacation. Travel light, dont show your equipment too much, even in europe (Rome has some reputation of pickpocket, dont know if it is still true, but my parents where victim 10 years ago. Some people distract you and others try to take things from you. All mayor cities with tourist have this, where I live you have to be careful on buses and subways for instance). Just dont show off, specially in cities and crowded places.

Ti@go.
Hello everyone,

I am relatively new and converter p&s user. I absolutely love my nex-5n and have been using adapters and manual lenses. My wife and I are taking a trip in the fall and I am seeking advice on what type of lens / gear / etc to bring. We will be heading to Italy for 10days.

Some things I know I need:
spare battery
extra sd cards
small camera bag
lightweight tripod? is it worth bringing?

Any other recommendations on gear?

I would prefer to take only 1 or 2 lens and I don't mind purchasing a new lens. I am looking for recommendations? I can imagine shooting landscapes, indoors and maybe some people.

I currently have:
18-55m kit lens
Vivitar 28mm (screw mount)
Pentax 50mm 2.0 (k mount)
Chinon 50mm 1.9 (k mount)

Regards,
Jake

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Flickr Photo stream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacobcaddy/
 
2 things I forgot:

If you dont exaggerate, a charge could last you a day, but take another battery just in case and charge them as soon as you can when you return to the hotel.

Also a way to store your pictures in the hotel would be nice, specially if you use RAW. I know there are some small solutions, but would have to search. I wouldn't take a computer for that.
 
Tripods are awesome, but a pain to carry, and many places, especially churches, do not allow them. They may get you tagged a "professional photographer" and kept out of other places unless you pay a sizable fee. Gorillapods are indeed handy as mentioned by one commenter.

The idea of a way to back up your shots is a good one, though not life or death.

The 18-200 is a wonderful one-lens solution, but it is large. Not prohibitively so, I traveled all over North America and some to Europe toting a Canon 1Ds and 24-105 lens that made a significantly larger combo. But it just depends on your tolerances. I would buy it in advance and take it on at least a short trip so you can see how comfortable you are with it.

The lack of telephoto lenses in your kit may just mean that telephoto doesn't "speak" to you, and you may not miss it. If you've never felt the strong urge to capture something that needed telephoto (i.e., an architectural detail way up high, or a landscape detail that was far off) you may not miss it. And you can "fake" a telephoto lens by cropping for some purposes, especially if you don't plan to print large.

As others have mentioned, do NOT ignore your girlfriend or let her feel neglected, or for your next Europe trip, you may have lots of photo time because of being by yourself! :)
 
I went to Italy in fall of 2010. I was shooting a Canon 7d at the time and I took the 15-85, 70-200 F4 L, and the cheap canon 50 1.8. I think I kept the 18-85 on 70% of the time (if not more) but I was glad to have the 70 -200. When you go I recommend you document the little details of your surroundings and the zoom will help with this. Walking around at night can be magical so the wide lens will be great. I didn't take a tripod, preferring a little noise to lugging that thing around (and I have a pretty light weight feisol (highly recommend by the way).

I wish I had the 5n at the time. No difference in picture quality to my untrained eye and a fraction of the size.

I have many of my shots uploaded to my website. http://www.lanceburchphotography.com/Photography/Italy/15896911_MnJZSf# !i=1192126225&k=UHvmp

We flew into Rome Airport and rented a car and headed up to Umbria and then Tuscany, staying in a different little town each night, so space was at a premium. If you were to homebase some where central then you could take a little more gear I would imagine.

Finally, I highly recommend getting up about 5:30am and walking the streets. It was addicting to get out before the tourists and seeing the little towns and villages come alive. I even managed to get one of my photos selected as a finalist to the smithsonian magazine photo contest last year. I'm worried my photo career has peaked and I'm only two years in!

LB
 
I recently watched Midnight and Paris and thought the opening sequence of that movie was great. I wish I would have incorporated more video into my portfolio from there. At the end of the day I'm only going to make a slideshow to torture family with and maybe print one or two images. The video would have been great mixed in with the slideshow.
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LB
 
I'll 2nd the 18-200. I had it for a while and liked it just fine. It is a beast on these little cameras, though, but I think doable around Italy.
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LB
 
And one more aside. If you are going to be driving and have an iPhone get the app CoPilot Italia. Turns the iPhone into a GPS of Italy and it doens't require international data plan. That app was invaluable and kept my marriage intact as we drove around Italy. It was scary good, even on dirt roads. Also beeps at you when you exceed the speedlimit.
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LB
 
Lots of good advice above. The kit zoom is great for travel - light, versatile etc. 28mm is also a great walk-around focal length on the NEX - this was my Vivitar 28/2 in Lisbon:













If it's fast-ish it will be good at night also. You can generally improvise with tables, walls, etc. if you want to be less conspicuous than using a tripod and announcing "serious photographer at work (with expensive gear)".

The 16/2.8 is so small and light you can throw it in the bag easily also. I have a couple of tele manual lenses but they are bigger and harder to focus hand-held and don't get used as much. Haven't tried the longer e-mounts yet (55-210 probably rather than 18-200 for me; cheaper, smaller).

Alan
 
First off I will be travelling with my wife :) She is very supportive of my new found hobby, but I know her well enough to know she will go nuts if I stop her every 50ft and set up a tripod. So maybe the Gorillapod will be great if I need it.

I also recognize that it is helpful to enjoy the moment and the surrounding instead of fiddling with my camera the whole time. Great advice!
TiagoReil wrote:
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How confortable is your girlfriend with you running around more interested in taking photographs than in enjoying the vacations with you?
Thanks for the advice on shooting style. I do like shooting landscapes and building over people. hmmm something I will have to figure out. might be why the 18200 is so appealing. I guess I could probably get away with just the kit lens. The Sony 18200 is sold out everywhere.

What about the Tamron 18-200mm? Thought I saw a comparison somewhere about the two...

Great Advice would have never thought to do this.
Finally, I highly recommend getting up about 5:30am and walking the streets.
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I've heard there are problems with the tammy with pano mode, but you could always do pano's the old fashioned way.

I see the 18-200 at quite a few places. I live in Denver and I know Mike's Camera has some and Wolf Camera (I know wolf has one because I just returned one to them on Sunday). Either of those two might ship.
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LB
 
Keeping things simple is always a challenge when travelling,not just for camera gear.Unless your primes are cherished for their speed & or sharpness the 18-55 is a very versatile lens.I also like the 16F2.8 for its size & grab,I havent got the W/A adapter yet,but its on my wish list.The 5n is a camera the can be handheld all the time but I do like the IQ that tripod use engenders,I do a bit of architectural work as well as HDR & landscapes so the legs are a must.That leaves the tele side of things to consider,pity you dont have a 135F2.8 something.Whatever you choose the discipline of making do will improve your picture taking.Some spend alot of time deciding what camera to use?



 

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