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From Thom's Site:

Almost on Cue

Feb 25 (news and commentary)--Dealers on Friday got some new pricing from Nikon, specifically on the D700. The new suggested price is soon going to be US$2199 (currently US$2699). But here's an interesting kicker: there apparently won't be a minimum advertised price (MAP) associated with that, which would mean we'll likely see someone drop under the US$2000 mark.

http://www.bythom.com/

I'll be watching. If a reputable outlet has one under $2K I'm in. I have no DX lenses and it will work perfectly in harness with my D300. It will even take the same grip, which I already have. This will be my entry into FX. I'll leave the D800 to those that really want the MP. (glad they finally got their wish)
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Cultured Vulture said:
From Thom's Site:

Almost on Cue

Feb 25 (news and commentary)--Dealers on Friday got some new pricing from Nikon, specifically on the D700. The new suggested price is soon going to be US$2199 (currently US$2699). But here's an interesting kicker: there apparently won't be a minimum advertised price (MAP) associated with that, which would mean we'll likely see someone drop under the US$2000 mark.

http://www.bythom.com/

I'll be watching. If a reputable outlet has one under $2K I'm in. I have no DX lenses and it will work perfectly in harness with my D300. It will even take the same grip, which I already have. This will be my entry into FX. I'll leave the D800 to those that really want the MP. (glad they finally got their wish)
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Interesting to see in the previous blog that the D400 might be FX.

Thom's marjet analysis is well argued, as ever.
My best guess is now:

Dxxxx names mean DX, Dxxx names mean FX. What people have been calling the 'D400' will appear as the 'D9000' at around $1700 - D800 camera features, 24MP DX sensor.

D700, now $2200, is eventually replaced by 'D400', D7000 camera features, D4 sensor.
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Bob
 
I'll be watching too, if it goes that low, under 2k for the D3 sensor in a pro weather sealed body?

A no-brainer. I would not need much else for a long time.

My only wonder is if it will be around till October (my planend buying time for this or the D400 whichever appeals more).

Plus, the D700 takes the current cheaper grip,. perfect for the amateur who does not want to sepnd the whole ballpark but wants a solid camera with excellent sensor.

A golden opportunity really. Cant see it get much better than that.
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.....Just from an amateur......'Sometimes it's to your advantage for people to think you're crazy.”
 
I thought it was an all or nothing policy.
Cultured Vulture said:
From Thom's Site:

Almost on Cue

Feb 25 (news and commentary)--Dealers on Friday got some new pricing from Nikon, specifically on the D700. The new suggested price is soon going to be US$2199 (currently US$2699). But here's an interesting kicker: there apparently won't be a minimum advertised price (MAP) associated with that, which would mean we'll likely see someone drop under the US$2000 mark.

http://www.bythom.com/

I'll be watching. If a reputable outlet has one under $2K I'm in. I have no DX lenses and it will work perfectly in harness with my D300. It will even take the same grip, which I already have. This will be my entry into FX. I'll leave the D800 to those that really want the MP. (glad they finally got their wish)
--
Regards,

JR
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Some say that 2,200 is what they paid 2009.

But that is 2009 money, inflation is a xxxx.

So, 2,200 or 2,000 now is a few hundred dollars less in real spending terms.
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.....Just from an amateur......'Sometimes it's to your advantage for people to think you're crazy.”
 
I bought my D700 for $2060 new in December 08. I sold it in May for more than I paid for it and was going to earmark that money for D800 or D4. The thought that the D700 could go back down to $2000 new has me rethinking that. Gave flawless results under any condition I used it in. Any mistakes were purely mine. It's major shortcoming was how loud it was. I am much quieter with my D7000, if the D800 is a good bit quieter than the D700 it would be worth the extra to me. It seems strange to buy almost five year old camera tech but the D700 is still a fantastic camera.
 
A sub $2000 D700 brand new seems to me like the best deal on a DSLR ever. To bad I already have two..
 
stany buyle said:
bobn2 said:
D700, now $2200, is eventually replaced by 'D400', D7000 camera features, D4 sensor.
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Or by D700s
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Can't see it, D700 is a very old camera. Nikon would want to get all the obsolescent parts out of their inventory, and update the styling to their new curvier theme, and add 1080p video. All those changes, they wouldn't want to call it 'D700s' - the time for that model name is well past, this would be a D4 (even number) generation not a D3 (odd number) generation.
With the D5 it will go to D500 and D900.
D6, who knows, D600 and ?
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Bob
 
Thanks for your advice and experience. I guess my choice will ultinately lie with if and when the D400 comes, what it offers in comparison.

Right now I am using a D5000, so both ergonomically and image wise, even if the D700 is 5 yrs old, it would be a huge step up for me in camera capability.

As it is, I think I do okay with the D5000 and 18-200., within limitations that I find here and there, but I work with them.

My aim is to upgrade camera and lenses in October. Which is why I hope any price drop stays still then and they keep making them.

Cheers
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.....Just from an amateur......'Sometimes it's to your advantage for people to think you're crazy.”
 
bewing77 said:
A sub $2000 D700 brand new seems to me like the best deal on a DSLR ever.
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Best Buy sold D200's for $600 for a short time (after they had been essentially discontinued), I think that was arguably the best deal to date, but this one comes close. I think like the D200 deal, this is one that should be jumped on because it's probably a limited time only deal.
 
Not counting pay raises due to any moving up in position (example junior engineer to senior engineer) - I doubt if the pay is any more than 2009 (that was just 3 years ago). The house prices would also be similar - may be down a bit. Other prices are not whole lot different - so I don't think that there should be much difference between 2009 money and now.
Bajerunner said:
Some say that 2,200 is what they paid 2009.

But that is 2009 money, inflation is a xxxx.

So, 2,200 or 2,000 now is a few hundred dollars less in real spending terms.
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.....Just from an amateur......'Sometimes it's to your advantage for people to think you're crazy.”
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From everything I have read in the financial news, food prices have risen internationally, so too petrol prices.

So I disagree.
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.....Just from an amateur......'Sometimes it's to your advantage for people to think you're crazy.”
 
bobn2 said:
stany buyle said:
bobn2 said:
D700, now $2200, is eventually replaced by 'D400', D7000 camera features, D4 sensor.
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Or by D700s
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Can't see it, D700 is a very old camera. Nikon would want to get all the obsolescent parts out of their inventory, and update the styling to their new curvier theme, and add 1080p video. All those changes, they wouldn't want to call it 'D700s' - the time for that model name is well past, this would be a D4 (even number) generation not a D3 (odd number) generation.
With the D5 it will go to D500 and D900.
D6, who knows, D600 and ?
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Bob
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I'll buy the D700 and enjoy it. It also gives me hope for a future D800 body camera with the D4 sensor. I have no idea what they will call it.
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Regards,

JR
 
From a marketing perspective Nikon having the cheapest full-frame camera will be a coup. Even Sony aren't sub $2K and if anything are looking to increase prices in line with their recent lens hikes.

It's a smart move against Canon also. The only way they can sell a 'cheap' full-frame fast is to take their cheapest full-frame body and drop the price. That's the 5D Mk2. The problem they have is that the 5D X and 1D X are all in the same place pixel-wise. Though 1D X buyers know better, 5D X buyers, like many D800 buyers, see pixels as 'value'. A cheap 5D Mk2 will eat sales of the 5D X to a far greater degree than the D700 which, however cheap, will always seem inferior to those who buy their cameras by the pound.

In fact that might explain Nikon's strategy overall. The D800 make differentiating in the low and middle range easy. The professionals will always understand the value of the flagships and specs aren't nearly as important as marketing tools.
 
Bajerunner said:
From everything I have read in the financial news, food prices have risen internationally, so too petrol prices.

So I disagree.
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raw material costs have increased and so have transportation costs because of fuel

http://www.ttiinc.com/page/ME_Materials

click on any metal

and yes labor costs have essentially remained the same

also, factor in the increase in the yen with respect to other currencies
 
I may change my mind and get a D700 now if that is true. The D800 will be hard to put my hands on anyway, for some time. Will follow it.
Cultured Vulture said:
From Thom's Site:

Almost on Cue

Feb 25 (news and commentary)--Dealers on Friday got some new pricing from Nikon, specifically on the D700. The new suggested price is soon going to be US$2199 (currently US$2699). But here's an interesting kicker: there apparently won't be a minimum advertised price (MAP) associated with that, which would mean we'll likely see someone drop under the US$2000 mark.

http://www.bythom.com/

I'll be watching. If a reputable outlet has one under $2K I'm in. I have no DX lenses and it will work perfectly in harness with my D300. It will even take the same grip, which I already have. This will be my entry into FX. I'll leave the D800 to those that really want the MP. (glad they finally got their wish)
--
Regards,

JR
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Cultured Vulture said:
bobn2 said:
stany buyle said:
bobn2 said:
D700, now $2200, is eventually replaced by 'D400', D7000 camera features, D4 sensor.
Click to expand...
Or by D700s
Click to expand...
Can't see it, D700 is a very old camera. Nikon would want to get all the obsolescent parts out of their inventory, and update the styling to their new curvier theme, and add 1080p video. All those changes, they wouldn't want to call it 'D700s' - the time for that model name is well past, this would be a D4 (even number) generation not a D3 (odd number) generation.
With the D5 it will go to D500 and D900.
D6, who knows, D600 and ?
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Bob
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I'll buy the D700 and enjoy it. It also gives me hope for a future D800 body camera with the D4 sensor. I have no idea what they will call it.
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Don't think they'll put the D4 sensor in a D800 body, more likely into a D7000 alike body.
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Bob
 
bobn2 said:
Cultured Vulture said:
bobn2 said:
stany buyle said:
bobn2 said:
D700, now $2200, is eventually replaced by 'D400', D7000 camera features, D4 sensor.
Click to expand...
Or by D700s
Click to expand...
Can't see it, D700 is a very old camera. Nikon would want to get all the obsolescent parts out of their inventory, and update the styling to their new curvier theme, and add 1080p video. All those changes, they wouldn't want to call it 'D700s' - the time for that model name is well past, this would be a D4 (even number) generation not a D3 (odd number) generation.
With the D5 it will go to D500 and D900.
D6, who knows, D600 and ?
--
Bob
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I'll buy the D700 and enjoy it. It also gives me hope for a future D800 body camera with the D4 sensor. I have no idea what they will call it.
Click to expand...
Don't think they'll put the D4 sensor in a D800 body, more likely into a D7000 alike body.
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Bob
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I don't see Nikon putting their top sensor in the D7000 body. I still think that they will use the D800 body with their high end focus and better weathersealing. Just my opinion.
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Regards,

JR
 
The D700 is already discontinued in all the stores here in Tokyo. I can't really see Nikon continuing to sell it overseas, but not in Japan. I bet this is more of a clearing out the inventory type of move. Kind of wish I could find one here for that price.
 
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