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I love the x10 zoom lens and would love a similar zoom for an x1pro rather than buying fixed lenses. How long will I need to wait and do we know anything about the zooms eg size, weight, manual, how will the optical viewfinder cope.....?
 
No dates have materialized to my knowledge but the first zoom should be here before the end of the year. That lens is said to be a 18-72mm f/4.0 IS.

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Does that mean having to buy a fixed length lens until eg October when the zoom will mark the fixed length one obsolete for me (I'd rather carry one all round zoom and occasionally take out a long zoom as well)
 
I believe that the design of this camera is geared more towards photographers who have an affinity for fast primes.

It is my best guess that Fuji feels that the zooms may not sell as well as the fixed primes which is why they only have 3 zooms planned for this system and at least 6 primes.

So to answer your question, yes. You would either have to buy the body without a lens or buy a prime and wait for the zooms to come.

But I am certain that many of us, myself included, don't mind using primes and have very little interest in zooms. I could be wrong though....

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MBell said:
Does that mean having to buy a fixed length lens until eg October when the zoom will mark the fixed length one obsolete for me (I'd rather carry one all round zoom and occasionally take out a long zoom as well)
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Or you could, maybe, wait ? Patience is a virtue (with which I'm not much familiar).
 
Cyclopedia Brown said:
I believe that the design of this camera is geared more towards photographers who have an affinity for fast primes.

It is my best guess that Fuji feels that the zooms may not sell as well as the fixed primes which is why they only have 3 zooms planned for this system and at least 6 primes.

So to answer your question, yes. You would either have to buy the body without a lens or buy a prime and wait for the zooms to come.

But I am certain that many of us, myself included, don't mind using primes and have very little interest in zooms. I could be wrong though....

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I think you're right that many will prefer using primes with this camera than zooms. The 28/50/90 (35mm equivalents) are what the hybrid OVF is designed to work with, a big selling point of the camera. Assuming I do end up buying this camera, I may not buy anymore lenses besides the 3 original launch lenses.

There will definitely be a market for zooms though, and it'll be interesting to see the market speak on preference.
 
I am also awaiting the zoom since it should have image stabilization. I would have preferred the three primes, but they saw fit to not include image stabilization in the body. Not sure why, the body is certainly big enough to hold it. I was veryd disappointed it did not have the IBIS which is almost a dealbreaker for me. If the zooms have stabilization, then I'll relook and possibly buy.
 
firefox23508 said:
I am also awaiting the zoom since it should have image stabilization. I would have preferred the three primes, but they saw fit to not include image stabilization in the body. Not sure why, the body is certainly big enough to hold it. I was veryd disappointed it did not have the IBIS which is almost a dealbreaker for me. If the zooms have stabilization, then I'll relook and possibly buy.
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I'd have been shocked if they'd included IS. Consumer gimmick and an extra expense. Zoom lenses is where it belongs, not on a body primarily used with fast zooms.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any high end bodies that have in body IS. Pro Canon's, Nikon's, medium format and Leica all manage without it. Useful on longer, slower, zoom lenses but I don't need it on a camera like this. This isn't a P&S.
 
Alister Pollock said:
firefox23508 said:
I am also awaiting the zoom since it should have image stabilization. I would have preferred the three primes, but they saw fit to not include image stabilization in the body. Not sure why, the body is certainly big enough to hold it. I was veryd disappointed it did not have the IBIS which is almost a dealbreaker for me. If the zooms have stabilization, then I'll relook and possibly buy.
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I'd have been shocked if they'd included IS. Consumer gimmick and an extra expense. Zoom lenses is where it belongs, not on a body primarily used with fast zooms.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any high end bodies that have in body IS. Pro Canon's, Nikon's, medium format and Leica all manage without it. Useful on longer, slower, zoom lenses but I don't need it on a camera like this. This isn't a P&S.
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If we were all thinking that anything new is just a "consumer gimmick", we'd still be living in the stone age. Lack of IBIS isn't a deal breaker for most of us, but I certainly wouldn't reject a camera because it's got it. I take anything that can improve a camera's potential, and if it includes IBIS, I see no reason to think it's useless for most lenses except long and slow zooms. I'm sorry for you if you're so easily "shocked".

And it's very easy to think about high-end bodies with IBIS : Sony A900, Olympus E-5, etc.

Also, P&S are very important cameras, and they're certainly not to be overlooked when it comes to the amount of research that has been put into them. As an example, including phase AF sensors within a sensor was first seen in a Fuji P&S if I remember correctly. This isn't a gimmick, it's probably the future of all digital cameras on the short and medium run (I personally don't think it will be so on the long run though).
 
IS is not a consumer gimmick. It may not be needed here (and it's not something I personally care about in terms of shooting short and wider primes on any body), but I wouldn't buy a long lens without IS and the IS on my canon 17-55/2.8 works wonders.
Alister Pollock said:
firefox23508 said:
I am also awaiting the zoom since it should have image stabilization. I would have preferred the three primes, but they saw fit to not include image stabilization in the body. Not sure why, the body is certainly big enough to hold it. I was veryd disappointed it did not have the IBIS which is almost a dealbreaker for me. If the zooms have stabilization, then I'll relook and possibly buy.
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I'd have been shocked if they'd included IS. Consumer gimmick and an extra expense. Zoom lenses is where it belongs, not on a body primarily used with fast zooms.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any high end bodies that have in body IS. Pro Canon's, Nikon's, medium format and Leica all manage without it. Useful on longer, slower, zoom lenses but I don't need it on a camera like this. This isn't a P&S.
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MBell said:
I love the x10 zoom lens and would love a similar zoom for an x1pro rather than buying fixed lenses. How long will I need to wait and do we know anything about the zooms eg size, weight, manual, how will the optical viewfinder cope.....?
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What do they intend to do with the hybrid O/EVF w/ the zooms on it?? Just skip it altogether? If I'm not mistaken, they'll have some sorting out to do wrt what the OVF shows & what the EVF shows...and it won't be "matched."

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firefox23508 said:
I am also awaiting the zoom since it should have image stabilization. I would have preferred the three primes, but they saw fit to not include image stabilization in the body. Not sure why, the body is certainly big enough to hold it. I was veryd disappointed it did not have the IBIS which is almost a dealbreaker for me. If the zooms have stabilization, then I'll relook and possibly buy.
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None of my Nikon primes are stabilized, and they consistently yield the sharpest results from back in film days and now on my D700. With the initial offering of lenses, none is long enough for it to be an issue for me. Neither a deal-maker or breaker, simply not significant in any way.

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Cyclopedia Brown said:
I believe that the design of this camera is geared more towards photographers who have an affinity for fast primes.

But I am certain that many of us, myself included, don't mind using primes and have very little interest in zooms. I could be wrong though....
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Ditto the above.

I have a huge affinity for Prime lens and won't be purchasing a "zooooom".... :-)

As for IS. I have grown up without it so very used to not having it so not an issue for me.

Don't get me wrong, it would be a nice to have....

And yes I am "old" school....... :-)

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RoyGBiv said:
MBell said:
I love the x10 zoom lens and would love a similar zoom for an x1pro rather than buying fixed lenses. How long will I need to wait and do we know anything about the zooms eg size, weight, manual, how will the optical viewfinder cope.....?
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What do they intend to do with the hybrid O/EVF w/ the zooms on it?? Just skip it altogether? If I'm not mistaken, they'll have some sorting out to do wrt what the OVF shows & what the EVF shows...and it won't be "matched."

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I seem to remember hearing a Fuji UK exec claim that the zoom lenses with be EVF only although the comments werent reportered much so maybve they were wrong/misquoted?

My guess is that Fuji is going to launch a second body latter this year at a lower price without the OVF and have the rumoured 18-72mm f/4 as its kit lens. Probabley not something really cheap but perhaps to be near to the same market as the NEX7/OM-D?

Does seem like a good move to me as the Fuji would likely clear beat the M43's on IQ and beat the Sony on lens support/size unless they get their act together.
 
Photohobbyfun said:
I think you're right that many will prefer using primes with this camera than zooms. The 28/50/90 (35mm equivalents) are what the hybrid OVF is designed to work with, a big selling point of the camera.
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I don't see why the Optical Viewfinder shouldn't work with zooms. The guiding frames will move (zoom) as you use the zoom, but the picture in the finder will not magnify.
 
Bjrn SWE said:
Photohobbyfun said:
I think you're right that many will prefer using primes with this camera than zooms. The 28/50/90 (35mm equivalents) are what the hybrid OVF is designed to work with, a big selling point of the camera.
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I don't see why the Optical Viewfinder shouldn't work with zooms. The guiding frames will move (zoom) as you use the zoom, but the picture in the finder will not magnify.
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I wish it would have the facility to allow the entering of the focal length of a legacy lens and present the correct framelines. Obviously up to the limit of the shortest focal length frameline it can show.

I wonder if this feature will wind up being on everyone's firmware update wishlist...
 
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