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comparison of x-pro 1 with canon 5d mark II high iso

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Indeed, a wonderful comparison. It looks as if the noise reduction on the XPro-1 is too aggressive, though, as in the 3200 and 6400 shots, the toes of the statue are completely smeared as well as are parts of the necklace. The 5DMKII here retains much more detail.

I expect that to change with RAW or with less noise reduction.
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shigzeo ? said:
Indeed, a wonderful comparison. It looks as if the noise reduction on the XPro-1 is too aggressive, though, as in the 3200 and 6400 shots, the toes of the statue are completely smeared as well as are parts of the necklace. The 5DMKII here retains much more detail.

I expect that to change with RAW or with less noise reduction.
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The SILKYPIX images on the bottom are from raw.
 
Impressive for sure, although the 5dmkII looks a tad better to me in both the RAW and the JPEG. But not by much, probably less than half a stop, and that's quite a feat for APS-C.

This is still no D700/D3, though it does make you pause and wonder if full frame has much of a valid high ISO argument nowadays short of the brand new uber-expensive Canon/Nikons that have been rolled out (I doubt the D800 has much on this camera at high ISO- although perhaps the new 5D will).
 
shigzeo said:
I expect that to change with RAW or with less noise reduction.
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Can't wait for Silkypix 5 being out on the Mac. Silkypix 4 still has some pretty crappy noise reduction. Usually, the OOC JPEGs (if done correctly) look great and you can always decrease NR, adjust curves and change film mode in-camera after the fact using the built-in RAW converter.

That said, I also want a decent external RAW converter for this camera. Silkypix is only so-so, let's wait what Adobe will offer of the X-Trans. Then again, Adobe already did a terrible job with the X10 and a mediocre one with the X100.

Honestly, my favorite external RAW developer for the X100 is DxO. Love it! Because it really works, even with DR200 and DR400 RAWs, you know, those underexposed b*stards that need some serious tonal curve adjustments to look right. DxO has such a nice lighting tool, it almost looks like Iridix. So I really hope that DxO will join the X-Pro1 bandwagon. Too bad they already jumped off the X10 train.
 
x-pro 1 your high iso kung fu is impressive.

Now if you would only apply that training and resources to autofocus...
 
Yes, but the 5dmk2 is a FF camera, and the X1 pro an APS C camera.
From DxO mark, the 5dmk2 is better (raw) than a K5.
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Some thoughts on the comparison:

Files from 5d2 are scaled down to 16 MP. It's better to look at the full resolution files.

At 400 ISO in my eyes there is equal amount of detail, at 3200 x pro1 streches it legs, and bears a tad more fine detail in low contrast (stone texture, and floor texture).

When looking at a print, 5d mark2 is able to match Nikon d700/d3 for high ISO. APS-C sensor matching does three for high ISO is serious achievement.

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Then you don't get that FF has other advantages, like when buying lenses and not having a crop factor, especially good for using those wide angle lenses. You know, like a 24mm lens is not 36, but it's really 24mm?
fdelys said:
Impressive for sure, although the 5dmkII looks a tad better to me in both the RAW and the JPEG. But not by much, probably less than half a stop, and that's quite a feat for APS-C.

This is still no D700/D3, though it does make you pause and wonder if full frame has much of a valid high ISO argument nowadays short of the brand new uber-expensive Canon/Nikons that have been rolled out (I doubt the D800 has much on this camera at high ISO- although perhaps the new 5D will).
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compositor20 said:
This site is very little known and has very good comparisons...

Here you can see its on par in some areas better than canon 5d mark II till iso 6400!!

Full size images in high DR scene (by the way great rending of highlights)
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These are interesting to see. Thanks for sharing the link.

They probably do give an indication of image comparisons at higher ISO, but I'm puzzled as to why a reviewer would use shots of scenes visibly blurred by running water. So it is very interesting but has missed an opportunity to be better.

Norman Young
http://www.noyo.eu
 
inteliboy said:
Many cameras will fair better at high iso's than the 3+ year old 5dii.
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Name one.

dxomark gives 5d mark II a high iso rating of 1815.
nex 5n gets only 1079
 
There is link to full size pics in the link.
Otherwise, I agree with you, that's weird.
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I wonder why they compare it to a camera that isn't very useful at iso 6400, a camera that is also not very likely to loose many users to the x pro 1. The 5d mk2 is cheap, reasonably light, small and like the fuji lacks weather proofing. I doubt anyone will go that way. Much more likely to attract interest from 1d mk IV and D3s users I suppose, so that would be a better comparison as it is good to know exactly how much performance one will sacrifice to get the good looks and nice feel.
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echelon2004 said:
I wonder why they compare it to a camera that isn't very useful at iso 6400, a camera that is also not very likely to loose many users to the x pro 1. The 5d mk2 is cheap, reasonably light, small and like the fuji lacks weather proofing . I doubt anyone will go that way. Much more likely to attract interest from 1d mk IV and D3s users I suppose, so that would be a better comparison as it is good to know exactly how much performance one will sacrifice to get the good looks and nice feel.
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Incorrect. The 5DII has mild water resistance and even has a rating for such. Check the specs. You don't want to go nuts with testing it out, but it can handle a mild mishap or two.
 
snake_b said:
echelon2004 said:
I wonder why they compare it to a camera that isn't very useful at iso 6400, a camera that is also not very likely to loose many users to the x pro 1. The 5d mk2 is cheap, reasonably light, small and like the fuji lacks weather proofing . I doubt anyone will go that way. Much more likely to attract interest from 1d mk IV and D3s users I suppose, so that would be a better comparison as it is good to know exactly how much performance one will sacrifice to get the good looks and nice feel.
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Anders

'It is nice to be important but it is more important to be nice'
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Incorrect. The 5DII has mild water resistance and even has a rating for such. Check the specs. You don't want to go nuts with testing it out, but it can handle a mild mishap or two.
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Oh, sorry. Thought it was like the old 5d, had two of those fail within 20 minutes due to very light rain, rain not enough to ruin a pair of suede shoes.

Good thing they improved on that :)
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Perhaps they compared to the 5dmk2, because, during the fuji's presentation, they compared the X1 pro , to the D7000 and the canon 5dmk2.
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Powerdoc said:
Perhaps they compared to the 5dmk2, because, during the fuji's presentation, they compared the X1 pro , to the D7000 and the canon 5dmk2.
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That's not much of a reason though...

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