Poll: If the 5D3 were a FF version of the 7D for $2800...

qianp2k said:

I agree D800 is awesome to some professionals but not to everyone even not majority want 36mp if you don't print huge and don't view on a super size monitor. I heard you seem satisfied with your 12.8mp 5D and you seem suggest you only print to 16x24". So ask yourself do you need 36mp? Also bear in mind as someone said that to leverage 36mp, you need the best lens such as 14-24/2.8G, under best lighting conditions with the best equipment and skills to achieve the best possible results as shown in the video. Most of us don't meet at least one of those perfect conditions. From what I read in Nikon forums many if not most don't want 36mp, same as in Canon forums. From time to time your posts conflict each other with flipping opinions, LOL.

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nicolas guilbert said:

Some Pros need MP, especially when a lot of cropping is involved. Try to sit with an AD and he ask you to crop that full body pic to from waist to top. You might be left with 12mp out of the 36. This happens often.

qianp2k said:

I agree D800 is awesome to some professionals but not to everyone even not majority want 36mp if you don't print huge and don't view on a super size monitor. I heard you seem satisfied with your 12.8mp 5D and you seem suggest you only print to 16x24". So ask yourself do you need 36mp? Also bear in mind as someone said that to leverage 36mp, you need the best lens such as 14-24/2.8G, under best lighting conditions with the best equipment and skills to achieve the best possible results as shown in the video. Most of us don't meet at least one of those perfect conditions. From what I read in Nikon forums many if not most don't want 36mp, same as in Canon forums. From time to time your posts conflict each other with flipping opinions, LOL.

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qianp2k said:

That I agreed and never denied, LOL. But to most folk including me as I don't need to print super large or view on a super-size monitor, a 22mp 5D3 is more suitable than a 46mp 5DX overall. I did read many Nikonian hope Nikon will release another affordable small-body FF around 18-24mp. I think they are reasonable.

In all those Nikon D800/D800E samples, nothing 16mp D4 cannot do. D4 can do equally well if you don't print or view at very large size.

nicolas guilbert said:

Some Pros need MP, especially when a lot of cropping is involved. Try to sit with an AD and he ask you to crop that full body pic to from waist to top. You might be left with 12mp out of the 36. This happens often.

qianp2k said:

I agree D800 is awesome to some professionals but not to everyone even not majority want 36mp if you don't print huge and don't view on a super size monitor. I heard you seem satisfied with your 12.8mp 5D and you seem suggest you only print to 16x24". So ask yourself do you need 36mp? Also bear in mind as someone said that to leverage 36mp, you need the best lens such as 14-24/2.8G, under best lighting conditions with the best equipment and skills to achieve the best possible results as shown in the video. Most of us don't meet at least one of those perfect conditions. From what I read in Nikon forums many if not most don't want 36mp, same as in Canon forums. From time to time your posts conflict each other with flipping opinions, LOL.

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bobn2 said:

Rick Knepper said:

Le Kilt said:

Wow! I didn't know the Nikon files were so much larger.

The RAWs use (for the moment) lossless compression, so I can only presume that Canon's algorithms are much more efficient, but I find the difference very surprising. The 5D2 files do vary, but nearly always within 20-25Mb.

I noticed that the D800 features several compression options for its raw files:
12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed, compressed or uncompressed.

Checking, I see that the D3X (which I suppose is what you have) offers :
12-bit or 14-bit, compressed or lossless compressed RAW.
I expect you don't have any compression options enabled?

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This would be correct on having the D3x and having no compression. I have theorized several scenarios for the discrepancy either Nikon's RAW is carrying more information or Canon's is carrying less. Whether that information decrepancy is image data or EXIF type data, I dunno. The third scenario being the NEF file is carrying a jpeg even though I chose just RAW.

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All raw formats 'carry a JPEG'. In many ways, raw+JPEG is a redundant mode, you just have to know how to extract the JPEG.

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Rick Knepper said:

I think I remember this now from bits of info I learned a long time ago. I believe the jpeg is used for previews and other internal chores. By the way, I found an opportunity to ask the same question over at the Nikon forum and the answer is I am using the uncompressed RAW modes. They say there is a lossless compressed mode I could take advantage of.

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