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Soooo... it's NOT the GX1/G3 sensor!
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"New" to Oly may not mean the same thing it means to the rest of us.
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DonovanDwyer
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Right... but they stressed that it's not the same sensor everyone was clamoring that it was. "New" could just mean new to Oly or a tweaked existing design...
Ultimately, the sensor's origin is irrelevant. What matters is how it performs, and we will all know soon enough.
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CharlesB58
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I read the original string on Get Olympus. It included the following statement which 43rumors apparently overlooked:
" It's an entirely new sensor with new architecture."
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DonovanDwyer
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now it's being suggested that it could actually be a modded Sony NEX-5n sensor?(!)
dmanthree
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Absolutely no chance of that...
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That's exactly what they said around the release of the E-P3, E-PL3 and E-PM1.
That turned out to be the same old 12mp Panasonic sensor tweaked to support the FAST AF system.
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That turned out to be the same old 12mp Panasonic sensor tweaked to support the FAST AF system.
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CharlesB58
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Well I would say that someone posting a "what if?" thread here is simply that, someone asking what if.
We do know that Samsung and Fujifilm have been reported to have made some overtures with Olympus in the past. Kodak, even though filing Chapter 11, still produces sensors and was the original maker for the E series.
I suspect it's a panny sensor, perhaps developed just for the OMD series. Panasonic and Olympus certainly are strange bedfellows.
The announcement a short while ago of the "strategic partnership" leads to a reasonable theory about it being a Sony sensor. Sony offers 4/3 sensors to Olympus, Olympus returns the favor with medical imaging technology.
But then, I'm sure Samsung would love to put their sensors into the strong selling m4/3 arena, given their own mirrorless cameras have struggled for market share. To often, when mirrorless is discussed it's about m4/3, NEX and Nikon V, with a "oh, I forgot about Samsung" response when they're brought up.
Don't count Kodak out either. They still make sensors for Hasselblad and the Leica S series. Getting one of their sensors back into a strong lineup like m4/3 is just the sort of thing they need to aid recovery and restore confidence in investors.
We will find out eventually.
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MichaelKJ
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I don't think we can conclude anything at this point.
If this sensor is something new and improved from the one in the G3, then why doesn't Oly give us more information about it? Is there a need to be evasive?
The E-M5 appears to be a great camera. However, I'm skeptical about any specific claims that Oly makes. The E-M5 is at least the third Oly camera that is touted to have faster AF than any DSLR.
If this sensor is something new and improved from the one in the G3, then why doesn't Oly give us more information about it? Is there a need to be evasive?
The E-M5 appears to be a great camera. However, I'm skeptical about any specific claims that Oly makes. The E-M5 is at least the third Oly camera that is touted to have faster AF than any DSLR.
jim stirling
Veteran Member
I think that we are right to be suspicious about what Olympus claims about sensors based on previous form. How many “new” 12mp sensors have there been now ? .Even if it is the G3/GX1 sensor I fully expect Olympus to get more out of it than Panasonic have especially with regard to JPEG output, and it certainly hasn’t put me off putting my order in
Jim
The poster in Japanese forum commented that sensor used in the E-M5 is from one of the company that Olympus is trying to establish business partnership. If this is true then it kind of makes sense why Olympus is not disclosing. They do not want to stir a speculation just because they are using the sensor from particular company.
G Rash
Senior Member
The "its a new sensor" pronouncements with the EP3 make it hard to believe that this is anything other than a tweaked version of an existing sensor. It will be much more interesting if it is a new sensor, at least until it is thoroughly compared to the current Pany 16 mp sensor.
A sensor derived from the 5N's sensor seems pretty unlikely since the 5N has a much larger sensor and only 16 mp. An NEX 7 derived sensor, although I don't believe that would add up to 16 mp sensor, seems like that would be closer to 14.4 mp if I recall the sensor size differences correctly. The 5N sensor performance is very good, I'd be thrilled to have that performance at 12 mp in m43. It seems to be right up there at the top of APS-C sensor performance. If Sony had that sensor in a body with controls like the GX1 or EP3, it would be an incredibly nice tool. The lenses would, of course, be larger than the m43 lenses, but it would be a fabulous street shooter with a couple of good pancakes.
A sensor derived from the 5N's sensor seems pretty unlikely since the 5N has a much larger sensor and only 16 mp. An NEX 7 derived sensor, although I don't believe that would add up to 16 mp sensor, seems like that would be closer to 14.4 mp if I recall the sensor size differences correctly. The 5N sensor performance is very good, I'd be thrilled to have that performance at 12 mp in m43. It seems to be right up there at the top of APS-C sensor performance. If Sony had that sensor in a body with controls like the GX1 or EP3, it would be an incredibly nice tool. The lenses would, of course, be larger than the m43 lenses, but it would be a fabulous street shooter with a couple of good pancakes.
It is called a Live MOS sensor. That means Panasonic. The specs are different than the G3. 16.1MP usabel on a 16.9MP sensor.
It is either a variationof the G3 sensor or a cropped GH2 sensor.
Anyway, with IBIS and the Oly jpeg engine, the output should be great. I can't wait to pair it with a Pan/Leica 25mm F/1.4 lens.
It is either a variationof the G3 sensor or a cropped GH2 sensor.
Anyway, with IBIS and the Oly jpeg engine, the output should be great. I can't wait to pair it with a Pan/Leica 25mm F/1.4 lens.
jim stirling
Veteran Member
Maybe so ,but Panasonic seem pretty sure they developed the live mos sensor
Jim
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/dslr/l1/sensor_venusengine01.html
I wouldn't be surprised if Olympus owns the patent.Maybe so ,but Panasonic seem pretty sure they developed the live mos sensor
Jim
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/dslr/l1/sensor_venusengine01.html
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beenHereBefore
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That's exactly what they did.
And that's exactly what they did again this time.
Not new sensor, just soon to be old one from Panny once they release GH3 in few months.
Jogger
Veteran Member
does any beleive them anymore.. how many 12mp did oly design.. maybe 5... Oly developed five 5 12mp sensors from scratch.. that just happen to be the same as panasonic sensors.. hahahahahaaa
come on.
this is the g3/gx1 sensor.. haahhaaaa
come on.
this is the g3/gx1 sensor.. haahhaaaa
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