rhlpetrus
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I read many saying that the D800 is not a "real" D700's update, that Nikon should do this and that, put the D4's sensor in the D800 body, produce yet another sensor at lower pixel count, and so on. I don't think so. I copy here the basic arguments from a post in response to TimK5 in another thread.
The technology has hit a stage where a new FF sensor will only improve little, in terms of IQ aspects, over the previous one. That's granted. 1/2 stop in ISO, a little more in DR at base ISO and so on, unless the tech is different (as is the case D700-> D800). But processing power keeps moving, so it's easier to process a much larger file today than 3-4 y ago.
Nikon has had two approaches in terms of sensors for their FF: the D3/D700/D3s, not same but similar, and the one in D3x. This one uses Sony's design, it seems it's not as good for analog processing in terms of extending some characteristics up the ISO ladder as the D3 line sensor, but with excellent read noise characteristics, so that it starts at base ISO at a higher level (about 1.5 EV in DR comparing D3x with D3s), then go down linearly as ISO goes up.
Now, only 3.3 years ago, when the D3x was released, the processing power/tech dictated that it would only do
So what is the D800: it is better than the D3x at any setting; it is better than the D700 or D3s at base ISO, as the D3x already was: it will have awesome DR and shadows recovery abilities at base ISO. It will beat or match the D700 as ISO goes up, printed same size (not downsampled to 12MP, as many say). One uses images at a certain size, in the internet, on a magazine, on a display. It will beat or match the D700, at any ISO, in those settings.
And it has a very updated video, which the D700 does not have. Add the D800E with AA effects removed, the better body (100% VF, dual slots, etc).
If you are into family sports, the 5fps at 1.2x crop will be more than enough. If you are into serious sports/action, you need a D4 or D3s, the D700 wasn't already enough.
So, in the end, given it is the same price as D700 at launch (in Yens), isn't not a decent update? Why is it that Canonites are talking, and loudly, about getting a D800? And why is it that it topped the Amazon charts in one day for best-selling photo product, not only cameras, not only dslrs.
I finish it by predicting that Nikon will not release a D800 body with D4's sensor inside.
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Renato.
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The technology has hit a stage where a new FF sensor will only improve little, in terms of IQ aspects, over the previous one. That's granted. 1/2 stop in ISO, a little more in DR at base ISO and so on, unless the tech is different (as is the case D700-> D800). But processing power keeps moving, so it's easier to process a much larger file today than 3-4 y ago.
Nikon has had two approaches in terms of sensors for their FF: the D3/D700/D3s, not same but similar, and the one in D3x. This one uses Sony's design, it seems it's not as good for analog processing in terms of extending some characteristics up the ISO ladder as the D3 line sensor, but with excellent read noise characteristics, so that it starts at base ISO at a higher level (about 1.5 EV in DR comparing D3x with D3s), then go down linearly as ISO goes up.
Now, only 3.3 years ago, when the D3x was released, the processing power/tech dictated that it would only do
So what is the D800: it is better than the D3x at any setting; it is better than the D700 or D3s at base ISO, as the D3x already was: it will have awesome DR and shadows recovery abilities at base ISO. It will beat or match the D700 as ISO goes up, printed same size (not downsampled to 12MP, as many say). One uses images at a certain size, in the internet, on a magazine, on a display. It will beat or match the D700, at any ISO, in those settings.
And it has a very updated video, which the D700 does not have. Add the D800E with AA effects removed, the better body (100% VF, dual slots, etc).
If you are into family sports, the 5fps at 1.2x crop will be more than enough. If you are into serious sports/action, you need a D4 or D3s, the D700 wasn't already enough.
So, in the end, given it is the same price as D700 at launch (in Yens), isn't not a decent update? Why is it that Canonites are talking, and loudly, about getting a D800? And why is it that it topped the Amazon charts in one day for best-selling photo product, not only cameras, not only dslrs.
I finish it by predicting that Nikon will not release a D800 body with D4's sensor inside.
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Renato.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhlpedrosa/
OnExposure member
http://www.onexposure.net/
Good shooting and good luck
(after Ed Murrow)
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