Rumour Confirmed - 1D Discontinued!

herb uk · Dec 28, 2002

Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

Beth · Dec 28, 2002

Is this an indication that Canon may unveil something to replace it at PMA? Now I suppose you could argue that the 1Ds was a replacement, but not from a price point. Do you think Canon will come out with a replacement--a camera with similar build, higher pixel count, but perhaps not full-frame? I have read wonderful reviews of the 1D. The only complaint that anyone had was reticence about pixel count. Wow! Wouldn't a 1D-ish camera with 6-8 mp in the same body be super!!! What do you think?

Beth

herb uk said:
Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

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Tom Boucher · Dec 28, 2002

I'm a firm believer that the 1Ds was the replacement for the 1D just like the D60 was the replacement for the D30.

There is a large enough price difference for the two for there to be something introduced between the two. A EOS 3 type body. I don't care about MP at this point, I want 21 point AF

My wife would have to fight me off with a stick not to get that one. I want more than 3 point focusing. I try hard but in some pictures a focus point grabs something just slightly in front of my subject some times (subject = 14 month old daughter) and since during the christmas facation I wasn't wearing my contacts I missed it (slight myopia, just enough to be annoying) and some of what could have been great photos of my daughter opening presents are out of focus enought to be annoying because her hand was holding a piece of wrapping paper a few inches in front of her with one hand or something like that.

Anthony14707 · Dec 28, 2002

herb uk said:
Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

The last they sold off all their inventory as discounted,refurbished cameras, they had the D60 waiting in the wings.

I have yet to hear of any "real announcement or speculation" regarding a camera in the league of the 1D.

I do NOT consider the 1Ds the same camera or even consider it an upgrade. The 1Ds could NEVER work for the intended 1D working professional. PJ's need SPEED!

RSO · Dec 28, 2002

Tom Boucher said:
There is a large enough price difference for the two for there to
be something introduced between the two. A EOS 3 type body. I
don't care about MP at this point, I want 21 point AF

Tom,

I am curious, and I may be weird, but I find unless I am shooting action shots with the 1D, I usually use a single focus point (and use that point for metering) when I do still life, portrait, nature and most other composed shots. Call me crazy, but I often use manual focus on still life, macro and even low light timed exposure work. I would think the bigger draw would be the better metering and faster low-light focusing. In what situations would you see yourself using the 21 pt AF?

Robert

Theodore80476 · Dec 28, 2002

herb uk said:
Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Henry's gets their info the same place everyone else does ...HERE.

It's like getting this info from a best buy employee, I'm sure the 1D will be replaced shortly, but don't take this as the gospel.

--
Theo

Don't anthropomorphize cameras. They don't like it.

Steve13285 · Dec 28, 2002

.. and Canon has already said so in numerous press releases as well as in person at demo days and trade shows. The 1Ds doesn't compete at all with the 1D for the audience that really needs a fast camera.

Also the fact that an "update" to the 1D was going to be announced next year has also been commonly known. No details, but Canon reps have made little secret that they were going to announce an upgrade that was more in line with the high performance 1D at the next PMA.

And anyone who thinks the 1Ds is a replacement for the 1D must never have used either of them. They are both wonderful cameras but are quite different in their strengths and weakensses.
Regards,
Steve

Tom Boucher said:
I'm a firm believer that the 1Ds was the replacement for the 1D
just like the D60 was the replacement for the D30.

There is a large enough price difference for the two for there to
be something introduced between the two. A EOS 3 type body. I
don't care about MP at this point, I want 21 point AF

My wife would have to fight me off with a stick not to get that
one. I want more than 3 point focusing. I try hard but in some
pictures a focus point grabs something just slightly in front of my
subject some times (subject = 14 month old daughter) and since
during the christmas facation I wasn't wearing my contacts I missed
it (slight myopia, just enough to be annoying) and some of what
could have been great photos of my daughter opening presents are
out of focus enought to be annoying because her hand was holding a
piece of wrapping paper a few inches in front of her with one hand
or something like that.

Greg M · Dec 28, 2002

walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it's probably a duck!

Everything points to the 1D being replaced shortly. It is quite clear that this is the case.

mark kay · Dec 28, 2002

The canon reps are not even given advance warning so i doubt henry's has any advanced warningfrom a c onfirmed source. I believe it is conjecture and I know the 1Ds is not a replacement for the 1D. mark

herb uk said:
Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

Theodore80476 · Dec 28, 2002

...I say the sun will rise tommorrow, it's not because I said it would, it's because it does.

By that logic, I can say that Canon will be releasing an upgrade to the D60, a digital EOS-3, and a camera using their shifting sensor, and be heralded as an amazing psychic, or an industry insider (both of which I am not), when they do.

A Henry's sales person knows nothing of Canon's plan, it's pure conjecture, that they probably got from this site.

We all know eventually Canon will replace the 1D, my guess is probably at PMA.

I'm merely stating, that a Sales Associate at Henry's, stating such, shouldn't be held up as the gospel, and final truth.

--
Theo

Don't anthropomorphize cameras. They don't like it.

Greg M said:
walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it's probably a duck!

Everything points to the 1D being replaced shortly. It is quite
clear that this is the case.

Newk · Dec 28, 2002

I wouldn't call that a confirmation, though I fully expect an upgrade for the 1D. Its current file size is fine for news hounds, but lacking for wedding photography, etc. I expect something in the 6-9 mp count to be forthcoming, probably at PMA.

The recent glut of reburbs point to a replacement, plus it's just time for one.

JCDoss · Dec 28, 2002

I recall about a year ago that Delta International had a few exotic Canon lenses up for pre-order. Among them were the 200-400/4 DO, the 500/2.8 DO, and the 24-105/4LIS. Remember that? None of them happened (yet).
--
JCDoss
D30/BiG-ED
17-35L, 28-135IS, 50/1.4

Ken Phillips · Dec 28, 2002

herb uk said:
Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

--

A couple of Canon DSLRs, a nice off-white lens and some red-stripe lenses and one with a gold stripe, some misc. accessories including various photon ejectors and paper holders. A ton of film equipment from 35mm to 4 x 5. A minivan and a Fender Stratocaster. A three bedroom ranch on an acre. Also, absolutely no Canon 1200mm f/5.6.

knucklehead · Dec 28, 2002

I hope the upgrade will be a larger buffer and higher frame rate.
Resolution/filesize seems right for its purpose.

Dave

herb uk · Dec 28, 2002

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4051677

Davidlw · Dec 28, 2002

I have 2 EOS3's and dont use all of the focus points at one time but manually select which one that I need at the time.

RSO said:
Tom Boucher said:

There is a large enough price difference for the two for there to
be something introduced between the two. A EOS 3 type body. I
don't care about MP at this point, I want 21 point AF

Click to expand...

Tom,

I am curious, and I may be weird, but I find unless I am shooting
action shots with the 1D, I usually use a single focus point (and
use that point for metering) when I do still life, portrait, nature
and most other composed shots. Call me crazy, but I often use
manual focus on still life, macro and even low light timed exposure
work. I would think the bigger draw would be the better metering
and faster low-light focusing. In what situations would you see
yourself using the 21 pt AF?

Robert

Davidlw · Dec 28, 2002

The 1D wont be discontinued unless there is another high speed something coming such as a EOS3D.

herb uk said:
Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

Todd65959 · Dec 28, 2002

I dont think that there is anything from any other manufacturers....I think Canon knows that it is safe here for now and will wait til the next Olympics for a new 1D...for now I think they want the consumer digi audience with a new digi rebel.....the Di...Todd

Davidlw said:
herb uk said:

Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

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Steve13285 · Dec 28, 2002

.. but you know that Nikon is going to take a big shot at this market. The only area where I see Canon lagging is in resolution. Not that you need a LOT more, but I can see them going for 6 or 8MP. Hopefully also a larger shooting buffer and maybe some additional options in terms of image sizes that might bump the shootnig speed, ie. 8fps at 6MP, 12fps at 3MP, etc.
Regards,
Steve

Todd said:
Davidlw said:

herb uk said:

Here we go! Last year there was much speculation about a
replacement D30 - will it happen; or not. A little regard for the
reports from dealers would have made it obvious - Canon were unable
to supply after Christmas.

Now we have a report (see Toronto retailer post) that Henrys in
Toronto are telling customers that the 1D is discontinued.

Can't speak for others, but I would consider it foolhardy to pay
top dollar (or top euro!) for a 1D from this point.

Wonder what will replace it?

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John Davis · Dec 28, 2002

The nonsense we hear about AF, multi-point AF, and so on, really distinguishes the men from the boys... oops, the photographers from the gadgteers.

John

P.S. - No, definitely no, the 1Ds is NOT (repeat NOT) a replacement for the 1D.

Davidlw said:
RSO said:

Tom Boucher said:

There is a large enough price difference for the two for there to
be something introduced between the two. A EOS 3 type body. I
don't care about MP at this point, I want 21 point AF

Click to expand...

Tom,

I am curious, and I may be weird, but I find unless I am shooting
action shots with the 1D, I usually use a single focus point (and
use that point for metering) when I do still life, portrait, nature
and most other composed shots. Call me crazy, but I often use
manual focus on still life, macro and even low light timed exposure
work. I would think the bigger draw would be the better metering
and faster low-light focusing. In what situations would you see
yourself using the 21 pt AF?

Robert

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