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When in the heck did all the weekend-warrior, don't-quit-your-day-job-pixel-peeping-happy-snappers truncate the phrase:

"High ISO noise levels" to just "How is the ISO on the camera?" in the past few years?

What the term ISO means is an acronym for "International Organization for Standardization", not a high ISO setting on a digi-snappers cameras.

Educate your self, don't be lazy and sound more intelligent...even if you are not.
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'Digital is like shaved legs on a man - very smooth and clean but there is something
acutely disconcerting about it.'
 
And pardon my typos / grammar, of course...
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'Digital is like shaved legs on a man - very smooth and clean but there is something
acutely disconcerting about it.'
 
The prase you REALLY mean is "How is the high ISO 12232:2006 noise"... Right?
Dan Nikon said:
When in the heck did all the weekend-warrior, don't-quit-your-day-job-pixel-peeping-happy-snappers truncate the phrase:

"High ISO noise levels" to just "How is the ISO on the camera?" in the past few years?

What the term ISO means is an acronym for "International Organization for Standardization", not a high ISO setting on a digi-snappers cameras.

Educate your self, don't be lazy and sound more intelligent...even if you are not.
--

'Digital is like shaved legs on a man - very smooth and clean but there is something
acutely disconcerting about it.'
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Dan Nikon said:
When in the heck did all the weekend-warrior, don't-quit-your-day-job-pixel-peeping-happy-snappers truncate the phrase:

"High ISO noise levels" to just "How is the ISO on the camera?" in the past few years?

What the term ISO means is an acronym for "International Organization for Standardization", not a high ISO setting on a digi-snappers cameras.

Educate your self, don't be lazy and sound more intelligent...even if you are not.
--

'Digital is like shaved legs on a man - very smooth and clean but there is something
acutely disconcerting about it.'
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All phrases are abbreviated over time to to save time and typing. We still all realise what is meant by the term high ISO ability etc. Get over it. It's why we type LOL, AFAIK, OMG.

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Dan Nikon said:
When in the heck did all the weekend-warrior, don't-quit-your-day-job-pixel-peeping-happy-snappers truncate the phrase:

"High ISO noise levels" to just "How is the ISO on the camera?" in the past few years?

What the term ISO means is an acronym for "International Organization for Standardization", not a high ISO setting on a digi-snappers cameras.

Educate your self, don't be lazy and sound more intelligent...even if you are not.
--
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It was probably started by the same people who call lenses "glass". It makes them sound foolish and cheap.
 
Lance B said:
All phrases are abbreviated over time to to save time and typing. We still all realise > what is meant by the term high ISO ability etc. Get over it. It's why we type LOL, > AFAIK, OMG.
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Who is this mystical "we"?

You can leave me out of that. It's childish, unprofessional and rather rubbish.
 
So you're saying that you don't understand what's meant when someone talks about the ISO performance of a camera?
Pixta said:
Pixta said:
All phrases are abbreviated over time to to save time and typing. We still all realise > what is meant by the term high ISO ability etc. Get over it. It's why we type LOL, > AFAIK, OMG.
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Who is this mystical "we"?

You can leave me out of that. It's childish, unprofessional and rather rubbish.
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Pixta said:
Pixta said:
All phrases are abbreviated over time to to save time and typing. We still all realise > what is meant by the term high ISO ability etc. Get over it. It's why we type LOL, > AFAIK, OMG.
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Who is this mystical "we"?

You can leave me out of that. It's childish, unprofessional and rather rubbish.
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Childish? Are you serious? I think you need to get a life. Why do we need to be "professional" when talking about camera information? It's just information, not government secrets.

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Pixta said:
Dan Nikon said:
When in the heck did all the weekend-warrior, don't-quit-your-day-job-pixel-peeping-happy-snappers truncate the phrase:
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This terminology has been around since film cameras, and it's not the weekend-warrior types doing it, it's the rich poser types.. the people who produce those blurry shiit photos and call it 'Art', or the rich sharp pictures of the side of a building (OH Wow.. like wee need to see more of them..).
Pixta said:
Pixta said:
"High ISO noise levels" to just "How is the ISO on the camera?" in the past few years?

What the term ISO means is an acronym for "International Organization for Standardization", not a high ISO setting on a digi-snappers cameras.

Educate your self, don't be lazy and sound more intelligent...even if you are not.
--
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It was probably started by the same people who call lenses "glass". It makes them sound foolish and cheap.
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Funny - I find that term ("glass") used a lot by the latte-sipping elitist posers..

They're also the ones who talk about "the ISO"; the ones who judge their worth by the ££$$ of the camera and how many "L" EOS lenses they have. The same one who regard their cameras as a personal extension of themselves..
 
we all know f-stops on lens, but how often do you say change the shutter speed by one stop? or how much ISO change is a stop?

We all talk in words that are more ideas than 100% real.

On my list of problems of the world, this is about number 183,000

Mike
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Pixta said:
Pixta said:
All phrases are abbreviated over time to to save time and typing. We still all realise > what is meant by the term high ISO ability etc. Get over it. It's why we type LOL, > AFAIK, OMG.
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Who is this mystical "we"?

You can leave me out of that. It's childish, unprofessional and rather rubbish.
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Lol... Noob.
Whatevz, DA
 
Dan Nikon said:
And pardon my typos / grammar, of course...
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So forgive you all your uneducated grammar and spelling skills...

but castigate those that abbreviate "high ISO noise performance" to "ISO performance"....
 
Touche..:-)
Milner said:
Dan Nikon said:
When in the heck did all the weekend-warrior, don't-quit-your-day-job-pixel-peeping-happy-snappers truncate the phrase:

"High ISO noise levels" to just "How is the ISO on the camera?" in the past few years?

What the term ISO means is an acronym for "International Organization for Standardization", not a high ISO setting on a digi-snappers cameras.

Educate your self, don't be lazy and sound more intelligent...even if you are not.
--

'Digital is like shaved legs on a man - very smooth and clean but there is something
acutely disconcerting about it.'
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--

'Digital is like shaved legs on a man - very smooth and clean but there is something
acutely disconcerting about it.'
 
IMO technically you're all wrong! I would contend that there is no such thing as High ISO noise - it's pretty much the same as base ISO noise, but just made relatively more visible by low signal levels at the sensor due to inadequate light.

In other words, in the low light conditions where higher ISO settings are typically used, low levels of light lead to reduced signal captured by the sensor, which with no change in inherent noise levels, will automatically lead to a degraded signal to noise ratio. Any minute variations in electrical noise due to different ISO settings are minimal when compared to the drop in signal caused by inadequate light.

All ISO amplification does is boost the combined signal and noise up to nominal levels for further processing. Since signal and noise are boosted equally, this can do nothing to improve the SNR which is already degraded before ISO amplification takes place.

In this case the better the SNR at base ISO, then the better the so-called high ISO performance will appear at all other ISO settings.

Fred
 
Jon Rty said:
So you're saying that you don't understand what's meant when someone talks about the ISO performance of a camera?
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I think Pixta meant the abbreviations, not that particular term. But come to think of it, no, I wouldn't know what someone means by "ISO performance" alone. To me the term is just silly. Just like a car enthusiast asking "does the engine do 300 torques"? :)

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FeedMe said:
Pixta said:
It was probably started by the same people who call lenses "glass". It makes them sound foolish and cheap.
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Funny - I find that term ("glass") used a lot by the latte-sipping elitist posers..
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As if sipping latte were in some way elitist! If you drink it like you do with water, it will burn your lips. That's why you sip it. Or, actually, you sort of slurp it, but in small quantities, so it's actually more like slirping. That way it cools on the way to your mouth and won't hurt you.

I, for one, will not tolerate such hostility towards a fine drink.

But yeah, who calls a lens glass?!

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Janne Mankila, Finland
 
Bows in apology.. I was being a moron and using the latte term as a throw away line - I could easily have said "a Stella sipping idiot".

(ducks from all the Stella drinkers..)

LOL - I'm sure you get my point though.

A lens is a lens!
J Mankila said:
FeedMe said:
Pixta said:
It was probably started by the same people who call lenses "glass". It makes them sound foolish and cheap.
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Funny - I find that term ("glass") used a lot by the latte-sipping elitist posers..
Click to expand...
As if sipping latte were in some way elitist! If you drink it like you do with water, it will burn your lips. That's why you sip it. Or, actually, you sort of slurp it, but in small quantities, so it's actually more like slirping. That way it cools on the way to your mouth and won't hurt you.

I, for one, will not tolerate such hostility towards a fine drink.

But yeah, who calls a lens glass?!

--
regards
Janne Mankila, Finland
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Sorry if this makes me a idiot, but I've always used "stop" for shutter, aperture and film speed (a hell of a lot less for the film speed though).

It enhances the understanding of the connection between shutter and aperture - one stop up + one stop down = same exposure.

It comes from film cameras - one click was a stop on the aperture ring, one click was a stop on the shutter speed dial..

1/3 stops bugger it all up though! Hahaha.
michaeljberman said:
we all know f-stops on lens, but how often do you say change the shutter speed by one stop? or how much ISO change is a stop?
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Tell you what though - I've just come from the Canon forum and there's a LOT of "glass" talkers there..

Figures...
FeedMe said:
Bows in apology.. I was being a moron and using the latte term as a throw away line - I could easily have said "a Stella sipping idiot".

(ducks from all the Stella drinkers..)

LOL - I'm sure you get my point though.

A lens is a lens!
J Mankila said:
FeedMe said:
Pixta said:
It was probably started by the same people who call lenses "glass". It makes them sound foolish and cheap.
Click to expand...
Funny - I find that term ("glass") used a lot by the latte-sipping elitist posers..
Click to expand...
As if sipping latte were in some way elitist! If you drink it like you do with water, it will burn your lips. That's why you sip it. Or, actually, you sort of slurp it, but in small quantities, so it's actually more like slirping. That way it cools on the way to your mouth and won't hurt you.

I, for one, will not tolerate such hostility towards a fine drink.

But yeah, who calls a lens glass?!

--
regards
Janne Mankila, Finland
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Sorry if this makes me a idiot, but I've always used "stop" for shutter, aperture and film speed (a hell of a lot less for the film speed though).

It enhances the understanding of the connection between shutter and aperture - one stop up + one stop down = same exposure.

It comes from film cameras - one click was a stop on the aperture ring, one click was a stop on the shutter speed dial..

1/3 stops bugger it all up though! Hahaha.
michaeljberman said:
we all know f-stops on lens, but how often do you say change the shutter speed by one stop? or how much ISO change is a stop?
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