onlooker
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K-5 uses contrast detect in live mode. I repeat my question - why does it focus more accurately than K-5 in live mode?
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newly announced pentax K-01..looks hot!
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Of course, you're comparing a CSC with a FF sized EVF... Why not compare it to the GX1 and pick TOP DOWN view?
http://camerasize.com/compare/#183,285
But you're perfectly aware of body size is a minor part of the equation. The real difference in size comes from the shorter flange back for WA lenses.
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Put it up against its main rival, namely the K-5 with fast AF + a decent OVF, the size advantage is unacceptable compared to the lost functionality.
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zxaar
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So now we are talking about CSCs with EVF and not CSCs alone. Someone is changing goalposts.
It does not change the fact that GH2 is CSC and people keep telling others as to how m43 are the small ones out here. Pentax managed to create smaller camera with bigger sensor, din't they.
BTW why domp you compare GX1 with Q, it will kick GX1's ar se fully.
http://camerasize.com/compare/#183,190
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Why not compare it to a camera which has more similar features? Just like the GX1 cannot be compared to the K-5 (because the former lacks a VF). The goalposts a firmly cemented, but you're aiming for the wrong ones.
Let me see, who compared it to the GH2??
I just 'removed' the EVF for you...
Alternatively:
http://camerasize.com/compare/#285,33
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sir_bazz
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I guess so but I don't think it's fair to consider the K-5 as it's main rival as the K-5 is in a completely different class feature wise. If we consider the K-5 a rival then we'd also have to put it up against the D7000 and 7D.
Infact it's hard to tell exactly what it's rivals are as it's so different from anything else on the market. Price wise though I'd guess that it's in the market up against entry level DSLR's and/or high end point and shoots.
Feature wise it's really more like a point and shoot with interchangeable lenses and an APS-C sensor.
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zygh
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the nikon 1 system looks good compared to this. that "designer" guy must get his queue from toys'r'us. talk about the emperor's new clothes...
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Exactly. It's unfair since it's a sitting duck. Lacks two fundamental features, and only offers a minute advantage in size.
Just like in motorsports, your main rival is your team mate. If you cannot beat him, you're toast.
It's not up against anything, since it's off the 'cost-benefit' curve in the market. Read: uncompetitive.
Which would be fine, IF it had a shorter flange back hence smaller, lighter, (potentially) cheaper lenses.
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JoeDaBassPlayer
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So, it is like a NEX 5N but uses PK lenses. Therefore it sucks? I fail to see the logic. It looks great, BTW.
I remember the stink when the white K2000 came out. It was not only "ugly" but the first Pentax DSLR to be produced without input from Samsung. It was going to fail because it was an "entry level camera" that was about the same price as the K20D. Oh well, I bought the k2000 instead of the "better" K20D. The AF quality alone was worth getting the K2000. Although its replacement's replacement has been discontinued, it is still one of the nicest cameras I have ever used.
Again, we have the nay sayers. Again, I will buy the horrible and ugly new Pentax Camera.
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sir_bazz
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The only advantage I see for the K-01 over the K-5 is the video feature set which is something I'm not interested in so I tend to agree. I don't personally place any value on smaller bodies either, no matter how small they are.
I hear what your saying but I don't think Pentax would be too fussed if the release of the K-01 resulted in increased sales of the K-5. They'd probably kick themselves for not doing it sooner.
OK then....what about up against the $2300 Fuji X Pro? That is probably it's closest competitor as it has the same size sensor as the K-01 but is 3 times the price. And the K-01 body is also smaller on two dimensions and likely smaller on the 3rd when each has it's kit lens mounted.
Yeah they could've done that too. But there'd only be a couple of lenses for yet another new mount rather than a few hundred lenses for the K-mount. It's a fair trade off for potential buyers if lens choice and availability is an important factor.
Remember that Pentax already have a line up of small pancake lenses which are readily available right now.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/4191020527
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Alex Sarbu
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Sony NEX-5N is 8% (10.2 mm) narrower and 26% (20.2 mm) shorter than Pentax K-01.
Sony NEX-5N is 35% (20.8 mm) thinner than Pentax K-01.
Sony NEX-5N [269 g] weights 52% (291 grams) less than Pentax K-01 [560 g] ( inc. batteries and memory card).
Enjoy your Pentax camera.
I prefer to enjoy my variously branded (inclusive Pentax) lenses on a NEX.
Greetings.
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Sony NEX-5N is 35% (20.8 mm) thinner than Pentax K-01.
Sony NEX-5N [269 g] weights 52% (291 grams) less than Pentax K-01 [560 g] ( inc. batteries and memory card).
Enjoy your Pentax camera.
I prefer to enjoy my variously branded (inclusive Pentax) lenses on a NEX.
Greetings.
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Alex Sarbu
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I was answering to somebody mentioning the NEX-5N.
If you are a fan of Flash photography, you will be better served by a NEX-7.
I prefer to go on with my DSLR, anyway, though all those fine lenses gathering dust do call for some help, and the short registry distance of the NEX is a big plus there!
Greetings.
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If you are a fan of Flash photography, you will be better served by a NEX-7.
I prefer to go on with my DSLR, anyway, though all those fine lenses gathering dust do call for some help, and the short registry distance of the NEX is a big plus there!
Greetings.
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Alex Sarbu
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Of course. But just being small is not necessarily an advantage, and being slightly bigger is not necessarily a disadvantage
My next camera, most likely, will be another K-mount DSLR. For me, the biggest advantage of the K-01 not having a new mount can be seen in the recently published Pentax K-mount lens roadmap. Things would be different if Pentax were to work full speed to build a "true" mirrorless system
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Alex Sarbu
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Correction: Pentax Ricoh was founded in 1st October 2011. So we're talking about 4 months, not 7; and they couldn't start making such decisions on day 1.
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Alex Sarbu
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Yes, the brand name looks particularly good on the Nikon 1
I find out both Nikon v1 and j1 plain ugly (while otherwise very competent little cameras). They should hire a designer for their next attempt
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JoeDaBassPlayer
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Will the Nex AF my F50/1.7 or FA35/2? How about stabilization? I also want to put on a decent external mic for video use? Flash?
BTW - those sony lenses are sorta long except for the cheapy 16.
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What makes you think the K-01 will increase sales of the K-5??? If anything, people who like the K-5 but are concerned about Pentax' future, will question the judgement of the R&D department.I hear what your saying but I don't think Pentax would be too fussed if the release of the K-01 resulted in increased sales of the K-5. They'd probably kick themselves for not doing it sooner.
The X-Pro is a range finder, or Leica light, pushes the right buttons to make people exited, but suddenly the mood changed dramatically when the MSRPs were released... Could very well turn out to be an epic commercial fail (too), but that doesn't save Pentax' bacon.
CDAF with screw driven legacy lenses?? Come on...
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sir_bazz
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Well the K-5 is it's main rival according to your earlier post so doesn't it make sense to see it this way?What makes you think the K-01 will increase sales of the K-5??? If anything, people who like the K-5 but are concerned about Pentax' future, will question the judgement of the R&D department.I hear what your saying but I don't think Pentax would be too fussed if the release of the K-01 resulted in increased sales of the K-5. They'd probably kick themselves for not doing it sooner.
Yeah we'll have to wait and see for both releases. As always, sales numbers will be the final judge.
And the problem using screw drive lenses on the K-01 is.... ? A pancake screw drive prime with AF will be much smaller and more flexible than any lens that requires an adapter on an alternate system.
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