Is that not because Pentax applies NR to the actual RAW file at higher ISO? My understanding is that the K-5 and NEX5N both use the same sensor, and that the apparently better high ISO RAW performance of the K-5 is because they're actually NR'ing the RAW.
I don't get why somebody would want nearly the same size as the K-5, but without the benefit of phase AF, nor a viewfinder.
Mostly related to 14 bits at low ISO, RAW NR at high ISO. And the K-01 is currently listed as having 12 bit RAW.
Maybe, the K5 scored 82 and 14.1 while the D7000 scored 80 and 13.9. Even if it scores in the Upper 70's and mid 13's it'll probably still produce very nice images. Regardless, I suspect it'll be tough to tell a K-5 and a K-01 image apart.
Best is a bit of a subjective term. The NEX-7 looks best to me at low ISOs, (ISO 800 and under), which is what I use. Even though I have a slow 3.5-5.6 lens on my T2i, I still don't use anything over ISO 800. Above ISO 800, the NEX-5n looks the best right now. I'm sure the K-01 will offer great image quality. I don't really care if it's "the best". Differences will likely be slight; who knows maybe when Sony releases the NEX-6/7n maybe they might be slightly better than the Pentax. This will likely go back and forth between Pentax and Sony now that Pentax is using Sony's sensors. All in all it'll be a win for consumers as the camera manufactures work to make better and better products.
For K-Mount users, as there are only a few lenses with an optical stabilizer in them for the Pentax mount, and as far as I remember only Sigma makes them.
I mean you, not the Pentax. There may be some rejoicing among Pentax lens owners. But, is the K01 the best way to go? $800, no EVF and this from DPR ...
Speak for yourself. Not that I am in love with my NEX but I have yet found a single situation that I could not deal with in about 7 years withOUT IBIS, with any camera.
I'm curious too, in particular:
In theory, to make lighter/cheaper K-mount cameras. W/o the mirror box they can produce lenses that stick mostly inside the mount tube for a very short external length (like the 40mm shown.)
Not sure if you're looking at the single score (one data point at 30 SNR) or the graph. If the former, the difference is much less than a 1/3 of a stop. And the measuring error/sample variation as defined by DXO is 1/3 of a stop.
Erik,
Why is that a worry? Pentax also has a another EVIL camera: the Q. And Ricoh also offers a different EVIL option: the GXR w/M adapter for non-Pentax manual lenses.
Exactly: Pentax is doing it differently from everyone else. Now they will not be able to offer a true pancake option that allows the camera+lens to be as quite as thin as the others. But with the 40mm XS and other potential internal designs, they can come close and you don't have to carry a separate adapter. (The XS needs to stick out only enough to give you a mounting ring grip and a focus ring grip.)
Despite using he same underlying sensors, different companies use different sensor toppings, supporting hardware and supporting software that equals differences in color, DR, lowlight performance, etc. FWIW, Sony uses one of the better color filters around.
...the above.
Yes the body is as big as a DSLR, it is as heavy as a DSLR, but it misses the mirror and the PDAF, So way to go Pentax!
I always wonder what people are seeing in these numbers. I think that in real life pictures (not those silly test shots on this forum) the IQ of every mirrorless camera with a sensor as big or bigger then m43 gives a great result, so nitpicking over a few points is meaning less.
If YOU want the best IQ why are you still in the M43 camp and not working with the best FF DSLRs or with the mirrorless camera with the best IQ? Come on there is a camera out there for every one. This Pentax camera will sell to some, I don't know how many. I think it is strange to make a mirrorless cmaera just by removing the mirror and the best selling point of the DSLR sins mirrorless come into view: FAST PDAF!
Or is it for people with no brain? Come on, a camera is a lot more then just IBIS. Don't get me wrong IBIS is great, but not everyting. In the 40 years I usec cameras, only the last 6 years I use some kind of IS, and it is nice, but I can live without it.The best, cheapest and most reliable IS is called a tripod!
Yep, your comments were a total DUD.
Why the heck are Sony, Nikon and now Pentax relying on old technology and old lens mounts that are crippled in some way? Wouldn't it be better to quickly release great native lenses that support the format? Lenses like F/2.8 zooms, F/1.4 primes, etc?
Of course you know that I had a NEX 5N for a while, and you also know that the new Pentax has the same sensor. People who crave that sensor + IBIS may be interested.
