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X-S1 Night shots.

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Which is very promising, those pics wouldn't have drawn any negative attention before 'orbgate'.

I guess this thing can still produce occasional orbs (based on other test samples) but it would appear they are more an exception to the rule than owners of the X10 have experienced.
Unless Fuji fixed your copy?

And I know for a fact that you wouldn't spare us your scathing criticism if things were different :).
 
Hi buckshot:

Paul's s100fs response:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=40406846

lw
Larry Winters said:
Larry Winters said:
Am I the only one seeing this? Are you satisfied with this camera after having an S100?
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Larry Winters said:
and a new orb sensation, they added flare
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Larry Winters said:
Seriously Paul ... compare it to your S100
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I already ask Paul for this but he doesn't have the s100fs any longer..
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Paul first I like to congratulate you for taking such nice shots.

Never less I have to come down hard on this in a minute and I have the feeling you have already made up your mind ether way.

The orbs are their everywhere in first few shots the just don't stand out that much and in the last few shots the hit you right in your face.

now to the orbs who don't seem to look like one, it seems the have used the flare option in the programming that Photoscape uses. They should have told all user of the X10 or XS1 to just use photoscape and add flare to it.

Although I think both camera are capable of excellent shots it is hard to justify this downfall for a person who like to shot in night light scenes.

I actually could get away with it as my subjects are rather seldom with water reflection or night time lights but to pay such amount of money I rather go one cheaper and buy the HS30 or the Sony or Canon.

You made me sell my X10 and I'm thankful for that as I would never tolerate such downfall on a $700 plus camera.
Cheers,
Siggi
 
buckshot said:
Paul

Am I the only one seeing this? Are you satisfied with this camera after having an S100?

and a new orb sensation, they added flare :-D

Seriously Paul ... compare it to your S100
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Pauls pictures look better than what my LX5 could produce. I would suggest having a camera with the range of the XS1 and the image quality of a premium compact is very appealing to a lot of people.

The S100fs is now an ancient, outdated camera and an obsolete concept, the XS1 isn't.
 
Hi Daniel:
Daniel Lowe said:
Which is very promising, those pics wouldn't have drawn any negative attention before 'orbgate'.
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Maybe not for the starburst (orb) effect, but surely for outright image IQ a few thumbs down will appear...Personally I'm not impressed with the X-S1, but not appalled either...

lw
 
Hi Daniel:
Daniel Lowe said:
The S100fs is now an ancient, outdated camera and an obsolete concept, the XS1 isn't.
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I know you like to bait an argument so i'll play along for one reply...Moot, moot, moot and let me think, MOOT...

lw
 
Larry Winters said:
Larry Winters said:
Which is very promising, those pics wouldn't have drawn any negative attention before 'orbgate'.
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Maybe not for the starburst (orb) effect, but surely for outright image IQ a few thumbs down will appear...Personally I'm not impressed with the X-S1, but not appalled either...
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Image quality compared to what? other 26X + superzooms or some ill defined theoretical perfect 'unicorn' camera?

The evaluation of new gear always plays to a completely predictable pattern around here, "this camera is crap because it's not this", "this camera is crap because it's not a DSLR"

How about: "is this camera acceptable for a superzoom compared to cameras with a similar specification"
 
Daniel Lowe said:
Ralph McKenzie said:
Looks like a bit of software wizardry being employed. While the starburst look is more attractive its definetly contrived. Its still too easy to see the circular nature of the light source.
Whats a moon shot going to look like, or a sunset shot?
The HS10 & HS20 dont suffer from this so why should the X-S1.
Sorry, nice try but not good enough.
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Nonsense, these pictures are completely normal and within the range of normal specular highlights.
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Rubbish. Two randomly chosen images from the millions at Flickr below show what proper specular highlights look like.
Daniel Lowe said:
There are several pictures in the widely regarded "understanding exposure" book that look very similar to these and would never have even drawn a comment before 'orbgate'.
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Doesn't seem to impress everyone.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=297010
Daniel Lowe said:
Even though the XS1 is better, you can still enjoy your HS30 when it turns up Ralph, you do realise that?
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I seriously doubt that the XS1 is that much better than the HS30.
It certainly isnt capable of taking a night shot like these.

And yes when mine turns up I will hopefully find it an enjoyable camera to use. And I do realise that. I certainly dont need to be reminded by you.



From an HS20 user.



From a Pentax user.
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Love dat Fuji :P
http://akiwiretrospective.blogspot.com/
Fuji HS20EXR
Fuji HS10,
Pentax K1000, Pentax sf7, Pentax zx-50
 
Lets do a comparison here..

ISO 1600

X-S1 vs. S200EXR vs. S100FS

http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4675/65660/dscf1192-original.jpg
http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4349/58727/dscf4092-original.jpg

http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0000/9860/52606/f4bf0b5ea01d17b487cb04f221c890ce-original.jpg
Daniel Lowe said:
Larry Winters said:
Daniel Lowe said:
Which is very promising, those pics wouldn't have drawn any negative attention before 'orbgate'.
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Maybe not for the starburst (orb) effect, but surely for outright image IQ a few thumbs down will appear...Personally I'm not impressed with the X-S1, but not appalled either...
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Image quality compared to what? other 26X + superzooms or some ill defined theoretical perfect 'unicorn' camera?

The evaluation of new gear always plays to a completely predictable pattern around here, "this camera is crap because it's not this", "this camera is crap because it's not a DSLR"

How about: "is this camera acceptable for a superzoom compared to cameras with a similar specification"
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--
-=[ Joms ]=-
 
Ralph McKenzie said:
Rubbish. Two randomly chosen images from the millions at Flickr below show what proper specular highlights look like.
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Then your standards are higher than many professional publications.
Ralph McKenzie said:
I seriously doubt that the XS1 is that much better than the HS30.
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I seriously doubt the HS30 is much better than the HS20, yet you are still purchasing it.
Ralph McKenzie said:
And yes when mine turns up I will hopefully find it an enjoyable camera to use. And I do realise that. I certainly dont need to be reminded by you.
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Well whatever, but you have a horse in this race as they say, and you admitted as much, no one is going to root for the camera they didn't pre purchase now are they?
 
Ralph McKenzie said:
Daniel Lowe said:
Ralph McKenzie said:
Looks like a bit of software wizardry being employed. While the starburst look is more attractive its definetly contrived. Its still too easy to see the circular nature of the light source.
Whats a moon shot going to look like, or a sunset shot?
The HS10 & HS20 dont suffer from this so why should the X-S1.
Sorry, nice try but not good enough.
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Nonsense, these pictures are completely normal and within the range of normal specular highlights.
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Rubbish. Two randomly chosen images from the millions at Flickr below show what proper specular highlights look like.
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You stomped Daniel's claim pretty well Ralph. I suspect that the HS30 will crush the X-S1. The IQ being shown here simply is not worth the exORBitant price Fuji is charging.
 
X-S1 and the EXR sensor smokes the older Fuji's here. Not really as surprise though.

It remains to be seen though how well the older cams hold up when using lower ISO's.
You may find the advantage isn't as large as in the higher ISO range.
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Love dat Fuji :P
http://akiwiretrospective.blogspot.com/
Fuji HS20EXR
Fuji HS10,
Pentax K1000, Pentax sf7, Pentax zx-50
 
They looked OK for web-size print.
Ralph McKenzie said:
Actually Ratty I had the same thought re the HS30.
If the images here are anything to go by,
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/reviews/1030884-fujifilm-finepix-hs30-review.html

then it may well turn out to be the camera to have in this years offerings from Fuji. I was going to sell my HS20 but I think the wife might just keep it.

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Love dat Fuji :P
http://akiwiretrospective.blogspot.com/
Fuji HS20EXR
Fuji HS10,
Pentax K1000, Pentax sf7, Pentax zx-50
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--
-=[ Joms ]=-
 
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