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Really enjoying the camera. Haven't had any orbs yet as I don't shoot much of the type of scene that people are calling problematic. Here's a recent portrait of my daughter taken with the x10. Printed beautifully at 11x 14. First one is post processed heavily in Photoshop. May not be to everyone's taste but I like it. Second is straight out of the camera jpeg. Happy shooting!







 
Hi

Beautiful l photo of a beautiful young lady , i also like the first one you processed , its very nice . Thanks for sharing . :)
 
I think you have handled the PP well, and with posting it with the OOC JPG there should be no complaints.
 
Geeze, guess I'm the odd person out on this thread. :-( I like the last photograph! It appears alive and vibrant, while the top is darkish, cold and sort impersonal. Ya, it's number 2 for me. Both are nice and the subject is great......
 
I like your processing as well - warmer color temperature suits the subject matter. Keep taking pictures and posting them for us to enjoy.
 
Geeze, guess I'm the odd person out on this thread. :-( I like the last photograph! It appears alive and vibrant, while the top is darkish, cold and sort impersonal. Ya, it's number 2 for me. Both are nice and the subject is great......
We agree, for a change. I don't understand Brooks' comment that the processed photo is warmer. The original looks warmer to me and while flatter, the skin tone looks better. The processed photo emphasized the shadows around the eyes and under the nose, and combined with the cooler color, gives it a Goth look that I don't think suits her as well. She's lovely enough though so either photo is a keeper.
 
Really enjoying the camera. Haven't had any orbs yet as I don't shoot much of the type of scene that people are calling problematic. Here's a recent portrait of my daughter taken with the x10. Printed beautifully at 11x 14. First one is post processed heavily in Photoshop. May not be to everyone's taste but I like it. Second is straight out of the camera jpeg. Happy shooting!







The second photo' is, to me, by far the best. It projects the subjects (as is) reality. Apart from being an obviously attractive girl, the immediatness of the shot is the outstanding thing.

Nice.

Dave. (UK)
 
Thanks for the feedback all. I like both shots for different reasons. I think the feedback was spot on. Keen eyes on this forum. Not sure what you mean by out of focus Paul? Looks pretty sharp to my eyes. I'm not too keen on the blur created by the pro focus. It looks a bit too artificial to my eyes. You can see it in this pair. Maybe I need a tripod to use pro focus? Haven't tried it that way yet.
 
I'm in agreement, too. The first photo is a bit over-processed. It's a very nice shot just as it appears on the second photo... although a happy medium between the two might have been the one.

George
Bedford, TX
 
The processed image is warmer - it's proportion of Blue to Green and Red is lower than the original image, which has a higher proportion of Blue to Green and Red.

I checked on the right cheek, the hair, the gray back of the jacket button, and the shadow area of the tree trunk.

Less blue = warmer, more blue = cooler.
 
The processed image is warmer - it's proportion of Blue to Green and Red is lower than the original image, which has a higher proportion of Blue to Green and Red.

I checked on the right cheek, the hair, the gray back of the jacket button, and the shadow area of the tree trunk.

Less blue = warmer, more blue = cooler.
I'll do that check if you or someone else is kind enough to gift me a legal copy of Photoshop. Until then I'll continue believing my eyes. I don't doubt the numbers that Photoshop has reported for the different color channels, but if I may ask a question. If you simply compare the two photos by looking at them, does the processed image really appear warmer? There was a reason why I said that the processed photo had a Goth look. To me the cheek (the entire face, actually) looks paler and the unprocessed face (look at the nose) appears to have more red in it, and I'm not the only one that saw it that way. I wasn't talking about the other parts of the photos, so perhaps the editing applied color changes non-uniformly.
 
When I wrote that I found it warmer that was only after looking at the photos on my monitor.

I measured in Photoshop to prove my point after it was contested - and the numbers don't lie. Is your monitor calibrated?

I think you may be mistaking the processed photo's higher contrast for what you think is a cooler balance. as you mention "paleness" as if it is a function of color temperature, which it is not. "Paleness" is a function of luminance and is not a function of color.

If you look at the subject's hair in the non-processed photo, you can clearly see hints of blue from the sky. This isn't present in the processed photo and is clearly indicative of a cooler color value.

Additionally, the flesh tones of the unprocessed photo do look, to me, pinker and less yellow than the processed photo, but that doesn't mean the unprocessed photo has a warmer color balance, in fact, just the opposite - there is more blue in those pink tones than in the processed photo when measuring the same area of the image. My eyes saw this and Photoshop confirmed it.

I think you are mis-using some terms here.
 
When I wrote that I found it warmer that was only after looking at the photos on my monitor.
Irrelevant. We were looking at and speaking of different things, as you should have known since I spelled it out very clearly.

I measured in Photoshop to prove my point after it was contested - and the numbers don't lie. Is your monitor calibrated?
What a snarky comment. You had to have seen where I wrote "I don't doubt the numbers that Photoshop has reported", so where do you come off implying that I ever even hinted anything about numbers lying? And yes, my monitor is calibrated, but that's also irrelevant because you confirmed what I saw. (see below)

I think you may be mistaking the processed photo's higher contrast for what you think is a cooler balance. as you mention "paleness" as if it is a function of color temperature, which it is not. "Paleness" is a function of luminance and is not a function of color.
Think again. The higher contrast was obvious but that had nothing to do with how I judged the color. I mentioned paleness as in "I was in shock. The blood drained from my face." Or if that's not enough, think vampire. Bloodless. It's ok to live by the numbers, but not if it keeps you from seeing the big picture. It can't simply be due to being clueless because I explicitly told you that when I mentioned color I wasn't referring to anything but the face when I wrote :
To me the cheek (the entire face, actually) looks paler and the unprocessed face (look at the nose) appears to have more red in it, and I'm not the only one that saw it that way. I wasn't talking about the other parts of the photos

If you look at the subject's hair in the non-processed photo, you can clearly see hints of blue from the sky. This isn't present in the processed photo and is clearly indicative of a cooler color value.
What does that have to do with anything? I have no idea what the real hair color is and I never said that the hair was too warm, too cool or too anything else. My comment was only about what I felt was an unnaturally cool skin coloration; pale, with shadows around the eyes that gave the "Goth" appearance that I spoke of.

Additionally, the flesh tones of the unprocessed photo do look, to me, pinker and less yellow than the processed photo
TaDaaa !!! Yes, that's what I was referring to. If you see what I saw, maybe your monitor's calibration is also suspect. Ya think?

but that doesn't mean the unprocessed photo has a warmer color balance, in fact, just the opposite - there is more blue in those pink tones than in the processed photo when measuring the same area of the image. My eyes saw this and Photoshop confirmed it.
But not enough blue to overcome the pinker flesh tones that we both saw. If you take any photo and increase the blue by 5% but increase the red by 45%, based on your logic that would make the photo more blue. I have a strong feeling that most people would see the changed photo as being much redder.

I think you are mis-using some terms here.
Could be, but if I did, I'm sure that it wasn't an egregious enough misuse for most people to not know what I meant. As long as you didn't deem it worth identifying the actual "misuse", it probably wasn't worth mentioning at all.
 

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