F717 portrait: The hermit of Cyprus

Yang · Dec 24, 2002

I got my F717 one day before leaving for Cyprus. I found, with its fast lens and AF, the F717 very suitable for taking snapshot portrait as the following photo of an old man I met in the mountain region of Cyprus.

Yang

P.S. More photos from our trip to Cyprus will follow in an album which I'm just working on.

Portrait:
focal length 190mm
ISO 200,
F2.4
1/320s

Background scene:

Aal · Dec 24, 2002

Hi yang,

Your 'camera analyse' does pay off.
Good stuff!

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Harry Behret · Dec 24, 2002

Yang,

Very nice shot. I think as you use the 717 more you'll be glad that you decided to get it.

Harry

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Isabel Cutler · Dec 24, 2002

From every perspective...great candids. I just love the sharpness, color and subject.
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Yanny · Dec 24, 2002

I'm so glad you found him, the real one...I always knew Santa Claus (Christmas Father, Pere Noel, etc...) wasn't wearing red...I just knew it

Seriously very nice portrait.

Yang said:
I got my F717 one day before leaving for Cyprus. I found, with its
fast lens and AF, the F717 very suitable for taking snapshot
portrait as the following photo of an old man I met in the mountain
region of Cyprus.

Yang
P.S. More photos from our trip to Cyprus will follow in an album
which I'm just working on.

Portrait:
focal length 190mm
ISO 200,
F2.4
1/320s

Background scene:

--
Yann
http://www.pbase.com/ykeesing

Ulysses · Dec 24, 2002

Welcome back, Yang!

I hope you had an enjoyable and productive trip, and that the F717 was kind to you during that time.

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I really like the character and feel of the first shot. Very nice. How far away from him would you say that you were.

Yang said:
I got my F717 one day before leaving for Cyprus. I found, with its
fast lens and AF, the F717 very suitable for taking snapshot
portrait as the following photo of an old man I met in the mountain
region of Cyprus.

Yang
P.S. More photos from our trip to Cyprus will follow in an album
which I'm just working on.

--

Ulysses

foxtrot · Dec 24, 2002

Very nice shot...i can't help but wonder about the things his eyes must have seen through all the years of his life...

Yang said:
I got my F717 one day before leaving for Cyprus. I found, with its
fast lens and AF, the F717 very suitable for taking snapshot
portrait as the following photo of an old man I met in the mountain
region of Cyprus.

Yang
P.S. More photos from our trip to Cyprus will follow in an album
which I'm just working on.

Portrait:
focal length 190mm
ISO 200,
F2.4
1/320s

Background scene:

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

thanks, Aal!

yes, the F717 didn't disappoint me in this aspect: When you don't have the time to do pre-focus, you can really press release through to get well focused shot as long as the aperture used isn't too large (in this case, I used F4.0 instead of F2.4). On the comtrary, without pre-focus, G3's AF is practaclly useless.That's the difference.

yang

Aal said:
Hi yang,

Your 'camera analyse' does pay off.
Good stuff!

---
Aal

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

Thanks, Harry!

I hope so. Actually, until I have seen the results on the computer at home, I was not sure if the F717 really coulkd be capable to offer all-over good results in most situations. Finally, it turned out, the F717 could.

yang

Harry Behret said:
Yang,

Very nice shot. I think as you use the 717 more you'll be glad that
you decided to get it.

Harry

http://www.pbase.com/hpb

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

Thanks, Isabel!

Isabel Cutler said:
From every perspective...great candids. I just love the sharpness,
color and subject.

that's just the strength of the F717, particularly in the bad lighting condition.

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

thanks for the nice comments!

Yanny said:
Yang said:

I got my F717 one day before leaving for Cyprus. I found, with its
fast lens and AF, the F717 very suitable for taking snapshot
portrait as the following photo of an old man I met in the mountain
region of Cyprus.

Yang
P.S. More photos from our trip to Cyprus will follow in an album
which I'm just working on.

Portrait:
focal length 190mm
ISO 200,
F2.4
1/320s

Background scene:

Click to expand...

--
Yann
http://www.pbase.com/ykeesing

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

Thanks, Ulysses!

Ulysses said:
Welcome back, Yang!

I hope you had an enjoyable and productive trip, and that the F717
was kind to you during that time. )

I'll comfirm this with some samples shots later

Member said:
I really like the character and feel of the first shot. Very nice.
How far away from him would you say that you were.

about 3 meters. This was actually a detail of the original shot (about 3/4). Thanks to 5MP resolution, I was able to print it in DIN 4 format (20x30cm) after cropping.

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

foxtrot said:
Very nice shot...i can't help but wonder about the things his eyes
must have seen through all the years of his life...

thanks for your nice comments.

Yes, he actually looked more interesting than I expected while seeing him from behind on the way.

Ulysses · Dec 25, 2002

Yang said:
On the comtrary,without pre-focus, G3's AF is practaclly useless.
That's the difference.

In these two aspects, I would disagree as my experience has been different.

I get a fast AF with the G3 even if I "mash" the buttons. Occasionally, I'll get an out of focus shot. For example, I was in a dimly lit auditorium with very poor conditions for the autofocus. Out of about 30 shots only two were out of focus. And my wife was the photographer, using only Auto mode to keep it as simple as possible for her.

So I find the incidence of out of focus shots to be the same as the F717. The only difference being that occasionally, it takes slightly longer to focus (I do not mean many seconds longer, but just a fraction of a second longer).

But everyone's experience with the camera might be different. I'm glad that you got the shots you needed with the F717. It is an excellent performer as well.

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Ulysses

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

Ulysses said:
Yang said:

On the comtrary,without pre-focus, G3's AF is practaclly useless.
That's the difference.

Click to expand...

In these two aspects, I would disagree as my experience has been
different.

while talking about AF issue, I was usually refering to the shooting at the telephoto end with the large aperture, during most people won't experience/notice any OOF while shooting at wide angle lens.

G3's limilation in this aspect is due to the difference in the optic: at 140mm cofal length, G3 has the maximal aperture of 3.0, during the F717 can work at 2.2 or 2.3, not to mention its 5 x zoom at 190mm at F2.4

Ulysses · Dec 25, 2002

I'm not so sure that this small difference in aperture will be seen as a limitation in most situations requiring telephoto (at full telephoto, you cannot go lower than F2.4 on the F717). But I can see how having that extra stop difference in the F717 will be nice in some other situations, too.

Were you having trouble with AF at full telephoto with the G3? I have the occasional lag in some shots, but it hasn't happened very often.

Interestingly, Phil notes that in telephoto the shutter lag in the F717 is about 1 second. For the G3 it can range from 1 second to 2 seconds. What I see is that if you have the focus zone on a low-contrast area, it can be up to 2 seconds, but this is rare. With the F717, if you don't have the HAF system on, then it just won't lock at all.

Timing seems to be dependent upon the situation for both cameras.

Yang said:
while talking about AF issue, I was usually refering to the
shooting at the telephoto end with the large aperture, during most
people won't experience/notice any OOF while shooting at wide angle
lens
G3's limilation in this aspect is due to the difference in the
optic: at 140mm cofal length, G3 has the maximal aperture of 3.0,
during the F717 can work at 2.2 or 2.3, not to mention its 5 x zoom
at 190mm at F2.4

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Ulysses

Einar B. Gilberg · Dec 25, 2002

Yanny said:
I'm so glad you found him, the real one...I always knew Santa Claus
(Christmas Father, Pere Noel, etc...) wasn't wearing red...I just
knew it
Seriously very nice portrait.

It's not Santa Claus... it's Gandalv the Blue (Lord of the Rings) who had an beard-cut.

I also liked the picture!

Einar

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

Ulysses said:
Were you having trouble with AF at full telephoto with the G3? I
have the occasional lag in some shots, but it hasn't happened very
often.

I first was talking about the issue while shooting without pre-focus on Canon's G-series. Particularly, at the telephoto end, it turned out to be problematic. It's totally hopeless, if the subject is moving.

Ulysses · Dec 25, 2002

We can each only comment on our own personal experience with these. If you had some difficulty with the G3 under those circumstances, I believe you. But my own observation was different.

With a slow-moving subject as in this shot, I would not have much trouble with any camera under those conditions. If moving faster, I'd have a problem with just about any camera of this level.

Actually, don't you find telephoto in general to allow you easier focus of moving subjects?

Yang said:
It's totally hopeless, if the subject is moving.

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Ulysses

Yang · Dec 25, 2002

Ulysses said:
With a slow-moving subject as in this shot, I would not have much
trouble with any camera under those conditions.

I think I once talked about the difference between F717 and the G3 in this point: It's well-known thta G3's continuous AF is useless. G3's single AF is more reliable, but it freses the picture for a while so that a proper framing of moving object is not possible.

Member said:
Actually, don't you find telephoto in general to allow you easier
focus of moving subjects?

I don't know what you meant there. What I know is, only at telephoto zoom end a compact DC really does focusing, or has a chance to do a real focusing. In wide angle zoom end, it simplly doesn't really focus. Therefore, it's much faster - a delimma.

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