Tim in upstate NY
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. . . How will any of what you say ever happen until at least some of those who think they have a problem sends their camera to Olympus for evaluation?
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IBIS bug on E-PM1 demonstration
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Allan Brown
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Why should people have to send their cameras back unless requested by Olympus?
Enough user complaints should be enough for Olympus to acknowledge that there may be a problem and start looking into it. Until then, the cameras will be treated as a "one off". This happened before with other makers for more serious problems.
At this point in time, User Feedback is more important than "Camera Feedback"
I have worked in the reliability industry for many years and "User Feedback" is a very important first step.
There are very few User forms like what is found on this site. I do know that Pentax monitors the Pentax forums, I would expect Olympus to do the same.
Allan
Louis_Dobson
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Sounds like two sets of hooey to me.
I very much doubt there is a batch problem.
Reading all this, the common factor is that some people are getting a degree of shake FROM the IBIS at around 1/100 of a second at shorter focal lengths.
I'd suggest those people switch it OFF at those lengths, and everyone else consider doing so.
It isn't in the least surprising - it is a small, light, camera, and IBIS is a reactive system which itself feeds in load.
I suspect it will happen to every camera at some shutter speed or another. Felt the sake when the E-PM1 is switched on? Compared it to an E3, which is heavy?
Saying the cameras are broken and Oly are a load of crooks, or that the people seeing it are all incompetent or lying, is just silly.
IBIS off around 100th with short lenses and light cameras folks.
Move along now, nothing to see.
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I very much doubt there is a batch problem.
Reading all this, the common factor is that some people are getting a degree of shake FROM the IBIS at around 1/100 of a second at shorter focal lengths.
I'd suggest those people switch it OFF at those lengths, and everyone else consider doing so.
It isn't in the least surprising - it is a small, light, camera, and IBIS is a reactive system which itself feeds in load.
I suspect it will happen to every camera at some shutter speed or another. Felt the sake when the E-PM1 is switched on? Compared it to an E3, which is heavy?
Saying the cameras are broken and Oly are a load of crooks, or that the people seeing it are all incompetent or lying, is just silly.
IBIS off around 100th with short lenses and light cameras folks.
Move along now, nothing to see.
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SammyToronto
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Barring a recall from Olympus (if they discover the presumed bug and take the initiative to fix it), it won't happen. The problem will probably need to be reported to Olympus (and not just on photography websites) in large enough numbers before hoping they would address it.
Its a shame how some try to generate an issue.
It is a very light camera which of course shakes more than a camera with a greater mass and thus better stability. Even the bigger and heavier stabilised lenses help to stabilise the system.
I own an Epl-1 and its IBIS works exellent.
No complaint whatsoever. I get useable 1sek shots at short focal length.
Even at 2sek I get keepers.
The IBIS system works quite audible at those long exposure times.
And I only use it for the longer exposures or when using zoom lenses.
Have some sense....
Linus
It is a very light camera which of course shakes more than a camera with a greater mass and thus better stability. Even the bigger and heavier stabilised lenses help to stabilise the system.
I own an Epl-1 and its IBIS works exellent.
No complaint whatsoever. I get useable 1sek shots at short focal length.
Even at 2sek I get keepers.
The IBIS system works quite audible at those long exposure times.
And I only use it for the longer exposures or when using zoom lenses.
Have some sense....
Linus
Sorry but IMHO we are dealing in the Forum with a v. small but vocal bunch of cretins who have not the balls to return their cameras and get better ones.
Masochists like to show off their ills, but they are pretty disgusting all the same. Is there an emergency number we can call from the various continents so that they can be cured, and be given toy cameras at the madhouse?
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Masochists like to show off their ills, but they are pretty disgusting all the same. Is there an emergency number we can call from the various continents so that they can be cured, and be given toy cameras at the madhouse?
Am.
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mfbernstein
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I'm sorry you feel that way about yourself. Have you considered getting help?
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Tim in upstate NY
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. . . You could have been a kinder gentler amalric if you had stopped there but . .
. . . Yes until some of these 'defective' E-PM1's get sent in to Olympus, there's no way to ever find out whether there's anything substantive to these feedback complaints.Masochists like to show off their ills, but they are pretty disgusting all the same. Is there an emergency number we can call from the various continents so that they can be cured, and be given toy cameras at the madhouse?
Have you returned your PM1, Bernstein? or are you too lost in your cabin in the wilderness?
Winter can be terrible if you have no seeds or animals to feed upon.
Am.
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. . . You could have been a kinder gentler amalric if you had stopped there but . .
. . . Yes until some of these 'defective' E-PM1's get sent in to Olympus, there's no way to ever find out whether there's anything substantive to these feedback complaints.Masochists like to show off their ills, but they are pretty disgusting all the same. Is there an emergency number we can call from the various continents so that they can be cured, and be given toy cameras at the madhouse?
Am.
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Allan Brown
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This character, like many other disbelieving fanboys on this forum, are mindless morons who's severe case of verbal diarrhoea, prevents them from admitting that Olympus, like many other camera manufacturers, can have design or production problems.Sorry but IMHO we are dealing in the Forum with a v. small but vocal bunch of cretins who have not the balls to return their cameras and get better ones.
Masochists like to show off their ills, but they are pretty disgusting all the same. Is there an emergency number we can call from the various continents so that they can be cured, and be given toy cameras at the madhouse?
Am.
I have had many small cameras with various forms of IS and, so far, the only two that have had IS issues are the Pentax Kx (sold it) and the E-PM1. My Canon G10 has incredible IS as do my Panasonics.
I have wasted too much time with morons on this topic.
The IBIS problem is REAL!!! - Get Over It!!!
Allan
The Skipper
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Can you point us to an official Olympus documentation that states this (other than for tripod use)?
I have enough settings to worry about, without adding another one to the list (am I shooting at 1/100, or did the light just change and I am now 1/25? By the time I switch on the IBIS, the light has changed again, or the moment is gone). IMO it is a defect, & Olympus should fix it.
mfbernstein
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Waste of time. Their support denies that the behavior is out of spec. and every E-PM1 I've tried in the store (5 - each in a different store) shows the same behavior.
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vincent filomena
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1. Did you return the camera during the 30 day trial period ?
2. Have you called Olympus about fixing your problem ?
No !
Please stay home this week: An Olympus repair man will come to help you;
Thank you for reporting your problem...
What you say, you're having a problem with your wife ....Please
stay on the line... The Doctor will be with you shortly !
Love Vjim
2. Have you called Olympus about fixing your problem ?
No !
Please stay home this week: An Olympus repair man will come to help you;
Thank you for reporting your problem...
What you say, you're having a problem with your wife ....Please
stay on the line... The Doctor will be with you shortly !
Love Vjim
vincent filomena
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