How Important is Camera Body?

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I have been using p/s cameras all the way till now and always wanted to get a DSLR.

Now that i have made my mind and budget, I am reading all the stuff on internet about various camera bodies.

I am stuck at choosign the right camera body which would prove useful on a longer run.

I have short listed T3i and D5100. Which body should I choose?

I definitely need the swivel LCD hence these.

Also I would be using my camera for Landscape and friends and family photos. I intend to take my photography seriously and would collect some useful lenses as I learn more.

Just wondering which would be right camera on longer run.

Is it true that T3i has a motor in its body, while D5100 does not which would make the no. of lenses available for T3i more and cheap as opposed to D5100. Please pardon my ignorance here.

Appreciate any help.
 
Both Canon and Nikon use focus motors in the lens. There are some older Nikon designs where they relied on a motor in the body, but unless you want to scour the used market, or need a very specific lens that isnt popular, you will be able to find what you need in Nikons newer AFS(focus motor in lens) lines. The D5100 can't autofocus those older lenses because it lacks that motor in the body, where the more expensive D7000, and the pro Nikons can. Not a big deal for the vast majority of purchasers. For the most part, the motor in lens solution is faster and quieter.
 
I have been using p/s cameras all the way till now and always wanted to get a DSLR.
Why?
Now that i have made my mind and budget,
Never mind why...
I am reading all the stuff on internet about various camera bodies.
I doubt you have read ALL of it by now, because there is soooooo much of it.
I am stuck at choosign the right camera body which would prove useful on a longer run.
The most basic, entry level offering from any of the major manufacturers is going to be more than enough for the 'long run' - more than enough.

I'll say it again, because new buyers often have community induced blinders on... any of the very basic intro, beginner, noob, 'point and shooter crossover' cams will have far more potential than you will be able to coax out of it for the next 5-10 years.
I have short listed T3i and D5100. Which body should I choose?
That depends - which camera SYSTEM do you want to be in? The actual bits and pieces, including camera body, are so unimportant now that you won't go wrong. (you should have read by now, since you have read 'it all' that you need to hold the cameras in question in your hand for a while - see how it feels since you will be holding it a lot)
I definitely need the swivel LCD hence these.
Nice, one of mine has a swivel screen, great on the tripod.
Also I would be using my camera for Landscape and friends and family photos. I intend to take my photography seriously and would collect some useful lenses as I learn more.
Warning - getting a dslr will require some basic learning to fully utilize and enjoy all the capabilities - and shortcomings. This is not a bad thing, to me it is a wonderful thing - but many P&S up-graders don't realize just how much those little cameras were doing for them when it comes to a 'pleasing' outcome.
Just wondering which would be right camera on longer run.
Neither. The camera, and it's accessories, are not the weak link right now - you are. Your biggest gains in 'quality' will come from your basic understanding of photography. It's not rocket science, far from it, but there are a bunch of areas you will want to study and understand to take full advantage of the new camera.
Is it true that T3i has a motor in its body, while D5100 does not which would make the no. of lenses available for T3i more and cheap as opposed to D5100. Please pardon my ignorance here.
Yes, and no, respectively. Yes the Canon has an auto focus motor in the body, the Nikon does not. No, there are more Nikon lenses available - especially in that motor-less mount the Nikon uses which will mount more types of lenses than their flagship D3/4, more than the Canon's, etc... Of course, many of these lenses are already manual focus lenses, or would have to be used that way on the Nikon. Also metering is another thing to consider.

There is even more to it, but like I said... there is a lot to learn as far as basics. It's an enjoyable craft and art.
Appreciate any help.
Study the systems more - a lot more. Hold them both in your hands - for more than 60-120 seconds when you are at the store. Also, understand that a solid understanding of the basics, strengths, and limitations of the gear in question will far outweigh any advantages the equipment itself will bestow upon you - by whole factors and leaps-and-bounds.

Really - no kidding... Your understanding and implementation of the basics will do FAR more for you than which particular system you choose. My advice? Get one on the cheaper side of your budget, get a few good books or courses (online or real time), get a flash, and a nice bag for the equipment to live in. Good luck!
 
Thanks, so I would probably go with whichever is cheaper at the time of purchase.

Also T3i offers two kit lens options 18-55 and 18-135. Nikkon has 18-55, is the 18-135 worth the extra 100-120 bucks?

Or I go with 18-55 to start with and later choose a telephoto lens like 55-200 or 55-300?
 
Nikon has a kit with 18-105 mm VR. I would go for it. The Canon lens (18-135 mm) has only the range as advantage the rest being disadvantages (starting with the optical quality and ending with the price).
Here is a good review of the lens:
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/462-canon_18135_3556is?start=1
The Nikkor lens is better and cheaper:

http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests/634-nikkor181053556vr?start=2
The best option is to choose a lens then buy a body that has two qualities:
  1. Can mount the lens
  2. You are comfortable using it
It is not such a low influence the body as in film times but still the lens is more important.

The usual kit lenses (18-55 mm VR/IS) are similar so no difference if you chose that type of kit.
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Is it true that T3i has a motor in its body, while D5100 does not which would make the no. of lenses available for T3i more and cheap as opposed to D5100. Please pardon my ignorance here.
Yes, and no, respectively. Yes the Canon has an auto focus motor in the body, the Nikon does not. No, there are more Nikon lenses available - especially in that motor-less mount the Nikon uses which will mount more types of lenses than their flagship D3/4, more than the Canon's, etc... Of course, many of these lenses are already manual focus lenses, or would have to be used that way on the Nikon. Also metering is another thing to consider.
Wrong answer. Neither has a focus motor in body.

Canon never had a motor in the body since they introduced EOS line (back in 1987). Nikon has stripped the body focus motor from their entry levels 10 years after they decided to launch all their lenses with a focus motor. It happened in 2006 and, respectively, 1996.

Now there is almost no need for a in-body focus motor except for compatibility reasons (the last gap in Nikon line was filled a few days ago with AF-S 85 mm f/1.8). There are still some third party manufacturers that need this focus motor (one being Tokina for most lenses). By the time you need such a lens you may have a totally other body. lenses change bodies not viceversa.
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look, either system is great. And both cameras are fine mid-entry level imaging tools. But, you need to handle both. The ergonomics are slightly different and you may find the FEEL of one camera over the other appeals to you. Don't underestimate ergonomics. The less comfortable the camera feels the more it becomes an expensive paperweight. Use them both - if one feels better go with it. If you have no preference, then go on price.
 
Is it true that T3i has a motor in its body, while D5100 does not which would make the no. of lenses available for T3i more and cheap as opposed to D5100. Please pardon my ignorance here.
Yes, and no, respectively. Yes the Canon has an auto focus motor in the body, the Nikon does not. No, there are more Nikon lenses available - especially in that motor-less mount the Nikon uses which will mount more types of lenses than their flagship D3/4, more than the Canon's, etc... Of course, many of these lenses are already manual focus lenses, or would have to be used that way on the Nikon. Also metering is another thing to consider.
The Canon EF and EFS mounts both require the focus motor to be in the lens. There is no AF motor in the body of Canon dSLRs.

I have a Nikon D200, and have three types of lenses. Manual focus lenses from my film days, AF lenses that need a motor in the camera body, and AFS lenses that have the motor in the lens.The AFS lenses are faster and quieter.
 
Can you point me to a decent buying option for Nikkon 18-105, how much would it cost me?

I am currently gettign T3i + 18-135 for $929 + tax.

I am on a tight budget of $1000. Would D5100 + 18-105 fit in this?
 
Just a quick scan, Adorama sells the body for $696, and the 18-105 for $396.

Shop around maybe you can find a deal.
 
Really - no kidding... Your understanding and implementation of the basics will do FAR more for you than which particular system you choose. My advice? Get one on the cheaper side of your budget, get a few good books or courses (online or real time), get a flash, and a nice bag for the equipment to live in. Good luck!
Can you please recommend some good books?
 
In Romania the Nikon D5100 + 18-105 mm VR costs $1062. I found out the D90 (a much better camera but without the tilt&swivel LCD) kit with that lens with $1050.

In Romania the prices are usually 25% higher than in US so you may find a better price in US if you shop around.
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I was stuck on the same problem. Those two companies didn't leave much between the two cameras!

Based on my past film slr experience and judging by my pics, I figured out three lenses I wanted. And altogether, Nikon seemed to have these good low cost AF-S lenses, so it came out to less. I started with the 18-105mm kit VR, and the 35 mm 1.8 with no VR (equivalent to 50mm on a film camera). I'll get the long macro later.

Just pick one and get it soon! I am delighted with my camera and just agog at the images. I zoom in and in and there's lots of detail. And the colours are so lovely. Both options will do the important business of taking photos ;) and good ones!

Thing is, I have previously used canon rebel and point and shoots. I find the Nikon a bit weird in the menu. Just different I guess. I find the Nikon UI less slick(?) that makes no sense, possibly! Like, why do I have only a 10 sec default shutter release, and why didn't it remember for my next photo? I'm sure the Canon had similar trade offs. I wish the Nikon had more buttons ;)

In terms of feel, I didn't see much difference between them. The canon is supposed to be heavier, but I didn't notice. They are both smaller and lighter than something like the D7000.

Finally, a coin toss will save you time! I did have a great time reading lens reviews though. I will either want the 35mm in, or the 18-105mm where I don't have to change at 55mm. So for me this seems a good two lens choice.

Though a sales guy told me I could have use the nikon AF-S lenses on the canon no problem?? I didn't look into it because I had already ordered the Nikon!

Keep on looking for better packages if you don't see the one you want.
 
No Canon SLR has a motor in the body for lenses.

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I wish the Nikon had more buttons ;)
That's what the D90 and the D7000 are for.
Though a sales guy told me I could have use the nikon AF-S lenses on the canon no problem??
Nikon and Canon use different mounts. At the very least, you'd need an adapter. By any chance, did this salesman have a bridge in New York that he wanted to sell you?
 

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