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AF Focus Video demo for X-pro1 from a Vietnamere reviewer.

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it takes nothing to be faster than the X100 but it should be at least as fast as the X10 nothing ells is tolerable
 
I don't find the slow AF a problem in the X100, but its kind of a specialty, change of pace camera for me. In a camera like this that I'd want to build a full system around, I'd mind it a lot. I don't know why Sony and Fuji and others can't get up to the AF state of the art for CDAF systems. If both Panasonic and Olympus can nail it within months of each other, I'm not sure why others can't. Nikon did, but don't they use some sort of PDAF/CDAF hybrid, like the Ricoh GRD4???

Oh well, this is discouraging. I'd have to try it before I could say whether it would be good enough for my needs or not, but I'm inclined to want something pretty fast in a main system camera, particularly if they're proposing a telephoto lens within the next year or so...

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Couldn't tell much about AF speed from that, but what it did show - was the X-Pro 1 next to the X100 for size... very nice, looks 'just right' in terms of ergonomics - maybe a slightly slimmer future model would be nice.

Thanks for the link. I won't buy another Fuji camera until they do at least one decent firmware upgrade for the X100.

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the focus looked faster than the x100 for sure, but it looked typical fuji with the clunky lcd freezing focusing and the difficulty in low light.
 
The AF in the Vietnamese video doesn't look good to me. Lots of lagging / misses. In fact it looks exactly as bad as the X100 (which is why I sold mine even though I loved everything else about it).

The fact that Fuji aren’t praising the AF and neither is Hugo Poon, has me feeling pretty sad. I was looking forward to this camera so very much. I love Fuji, rangefinders, and so on. The only improvement I cared for was the focus, seeing as its impossible to take pictures without a good focusing system.

All Fuji had to do was either improve AF or give us a real workable MF. Either one would do. Anyway, I’m just hoping that the production model is better — but I’m very doubtful anything would change if its going to be in the market by March.
 
After watching the video, especially from 4:40, I am very disappointed in the AF performance.

It looks slow, failed to lock on half the time, and the live-feedback is jerky and slow to refresh.

To me, it looks about the same as the AF performance of X100.

Now I understand why Fuji kept their lips shut regarding the AF performance of X-Pro1.
 
toanster said:
Here's a video demo from a vietnam review.

His verdict was - The AF focus on the X-pro1 is faster than the x100, but slower than the X10

watch demo at 4:50 in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ChjzvHPOq4&list=UUyQobySFx_h9oFwsBV0KGdg&index=2&feature=plcp
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Super disappointing. If that's what the autofocus speed is going to be, then I'll be looking for another camera system. The way the live view jerks around when focusing is pretty horrible as well. Hopefully this is because it is using preproduction firmware that has been rushed to meet the CES deadlines and that Fuji can bring the AF speed up to par with the X10.

If not, I hope Olympus doesn't disappointment with the revival of their OM line. Rumors has it that the camera will be weather sealed and it will have a hybrid optical viewfinder that is characterized as being "super" and if one of the patents found is implemented, it'll also have PDAF. Even if it doesn't, Olympus does have CDAF nailed so no worries about that.
 
Ozmander said:
All Fuji had to do was either improve AF or give us a real workable MF. Either one would do.
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Agreed.

I dont shoot sports or kids or whatever, but I want to be sure if I got the shot or not without chimping.

A traditional rangefinder is certainly not the fastest focusing method, but one of the more accurate and reliable under almost any condition...
 
http://vimeo.com/34890330

4 minutes 30 seconds in the Fuji rep states that it has been severely upgraded over the X100 with.... "Super Fast" center AF point.

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Winder said:
http://vimeo.com/34890330

4 minutes 30 seconds in the Fuji rep states that it has been severely upgraded over the X100 with.... "Super Fast" center AF point.

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She said there are options for autofocus area select and point and that point is super fast. I don't quite understand what she was saying because in autofocus area you select the point you want on the screen. She made it sound like autofocus area and point are two different ways to autofocus.

She doesn't mention anything about the center point being faster. Isn't CDAF just an alogorithm? It shouldn't matter where the point selected is, it runs the same process, its not like PDAF.

The interviewer said it was faster than the X100 but Kaycee made it sound like its a huge difference.

On the vietnamese video though, it sure doesn't look like it was noticeably faster than the X100. Equally important as well is how good it is at grabbing focus. Part of the frustration with the X100 was that it just wouldn't grab focus at times, even in well lit situations with a reasonable amount of contrast. The X-Pro1 failed to grab focus several times in that vietnamese video and in a separate video with Kaycee Baker, she shows us the multi exposure feature and the autofocus appears pretty slow, with the screen lagging.

So they can say whatever they want, but so far the videos aren't showing the autofocus speed people would like to see.
 
Photohobbyfun said:
Winder said:
http://vimeo.com/34890330

4 minutes 30 seconds in the Fuji rep states that it has been severely upgraded over the X100 with.... "Super Fast" center AF point.

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She said there are options for autofocus area select and point and that point is super fast. I don't quite understand what she was saying because in autofocus area you select the point you want on the screen. She made it sound like autofocus area and point are two different ways to autofocus.
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I looked at the vimeo.
Maybe she is referring to the 49AF points.

That is, maybe she means when the 49AF grid is selected, focusing on any of those 49 AF points is fast.
 
Ozmander said:
All Fuji had to do was either improve AF or give us a real workable MF. Either one would do. Anyway, I’m just hoping that the production model is better — but I’m very doubtful anything would change if its going to be in the market by March.
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Your sentiments are exactly in line with mine. This manual focus by wire thing is a real nightmare and something I am certain is a complete miss. Indeed, if the x100 had a true manual focus, I would have bought the thing. My sister-in-law borrowed me a Fuji S2 Pro while I hunt for a new camera and while i recognize it is older technology, the autofocus is dreadful unless you are shooting in bright, very contrasty settings. By contrast, I can pick up a Nikon D80/90 or a Canon T2/T3 and never have to deal with this kind of frustration.

Will keep watching this camera for more info as I really want to like it.
 
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/01/fujifilm-x-pro-1-hands-on-intoxicatingly-simple/
Gizmodo hands-on. Note this quote

"The camera’s one drawback, and Fuji has told us that this will be the case on the production models, is that the autofocus isn’t going to be as snappy as it is on other cameras. Fuji says thats because that’s not what this camera is about. Fine, but it’s going to annoy the hell out of you if you’re used to a good point-and-shoot camera or DSLR."

oh dear..
 
FritsThomsen said:
Well of course it fails to focus at 2 meters .. in macro-mode... without a macrolens :)

Then I think the RED boxes occurs when he is moving the camera insanely around , this behaviour has NO resemblance at all to real life photography:)
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The red box occurs when he is shooting at low contrast areas, the same AF issue inherent in the x100. Also, 2 meters is not considered a macro distance. Pick up any other $1700 (or less) camera and you will not be dealing with this kind of problem excepting the x100 of course.

I guess we will really have to wait for some real reviews from DPR and others to get a real sense of whether or not AF is a shortcoming on this camera.
 
Ugh, awful. I'm suddenly no longer interested in the X-Pro1. What a shame that they can't nail down such a basic function of a modern camera. What good is all the image quality and build quality in the world if the camera can't nail the shot before the shot disappears? I wasn't expecting 1D/D3 level AF, but I was expecting something reasonably competent, which this is not.
 
rob78 said:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/01/fujifilm-x-pro-1-hands-on-intoxicatingly-simple/
Gizmodo hands-on. Note this quote

"The camera’s one drawback, and Fuji has told us that this will be the case on the production models, is that the autofocus isn’t going to be as snappy as it is on other cameras. Fuji says thats because that’s not what this camera is about. Fine, but it’s going to annoy the hell out of you if you’re used to a good point-and-shoot camera or DSLR."

oh dear..
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This is camera is targeted at pro's though and pro's don't need fast autofocus.
 
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