Good news, E-620 users: your backup camera has arrived

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I'm sure that many of us appreciate our little Oly's illuminated buttons. Well now you can have that on your Nikon, for only $5999. I bet this unique feature will get more respect once the pros enjoy it on their new D4s. ; >
 
Yeah it was so lame when it was on the E-620, just like the swivel screen. Nikon fanboys were laughing. Now they have them on their cameras and it's great. Same old story.

And it happened like that with many things. Like ,,VR is not important at all for wide lenses,,. Now they have the 16-35mm VR and it's the greatest thing ever.

This just shows how many losers are on these forums, people that have nothing to do with quality photography, sheeps that just blindly love a brand and they buy pure cr@p if it's made by them.

Too bad Oly screw the 4/3 system up, it was good, it was really good.

By the way I'm Nikon :))))
 
I'm sure that many of us appreciate our little Oly's illuminated buttons. Well now you can have that on your Nikon, for only $5999. I bet this unique feature will get more respect once the pros enjoy it on their new D4s. ; >
Well, yes. But does the D4 have "scene modes"? ;)

(Illuminated buttons are slightly trickier to implement on a weather-proof design, though. Presumably this is why the E-5 didn't inherit this feature.)
 
there wouldn't be a Nikon D4, makes you wonder why Olympus didn't release it..................
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I'm sure that many of us appreciate our little Oly's illuminated buttons. Well now you can have that on your Nikon, for only $5999. I bet this unique feature will get more respect once the pros enjoy it on their new D4s. ; >
When I bought my E-620 I thought the illuminated buttons were "gimmicky". They and the swivel screen are far more useful then I ever would have thought.
 
I'm sure that many of us appreciate our little Oly's illuminated buttons. Well now you can have that on your Nikon, for only $5999. I bet this unique feature will get more respect once the pros enjoy it on their new D4s. ; >
This is not the feature that makes the camera, is it?

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Yeah it was so lame when it was on the E-620, just like the swivel screen. Nikon fanboys were laughing. Now they have them on their cameras and it's great. Same old story.
The swivel screen is only present in the lower end Nikon cameras. So unless those "fanboys" were laughing at you, I would not be taking them for real (even if they are real). Now for a test, in live view, can you quickly focus on a fast moving object, like in a macro mode on a fast moving bug? I know I can with the angle-view through the optical viewfinder (which is what I use for the low level shots), but I am not that sure the same can be done with the live view yet (unless it is Sony of course). If not, then what's the use of it? And if the live view finally becomes as fast as through the optical viewfinder, then it won't be the same thing, will it?
And it happened like that with many things. Like ,,VR is not important at all for wide lenses,,. Now they have the 16-35mm VR and it's the greatest thing ever.
When there was no IS in Olympus cameras, same people,

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1022&message=12842418

The thing with IS on va lenses is that it does not even work right. Or better put it works sometimes, but not always. I don't know about the VR though, never tried it.
This just shows how many losers are on these forums, people that have nothing to do with quality photography, sheeps that just blindly love a brand and they buy pure cr@p if it's made by them.
I would like to agree with you here, in general, except I do not think we mean the same people though.
Too bad Oly screw the 4/3 system up, it was good, it was really good.
Now we are talking ;) .

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I can't tell the difference between Nikon's D4 and my e-620 other than the price.

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The swivel screen is only present in the lower end Nikon cameras. So unless those "fanboys" were laughing at you, I would not be taking them for real (even if they are real). Now for a test, in live view, can you quickly focus on a fast moving object, like in a macro mode on a fast moving bug? I know I can with the angle-view through the optical viewfinder (which is what I use for the low level shots), but I am not that sure the same can be done with the live view yet (unless it is Sony of course). If not, then what's the use of it? And if the live view finally becomes as fast as through the optical viewfinder, then it won't be the same thing, will it?
You know Sergey, pointing to such a small percentage situation to try to dismiss the feature is evidence of a failed argument. There are so many situations in which a swivel LCD is useful beyond chasing fast moving bugs in marco...I just have to laugh about your argument.

Most likely the reason why Canon and Nikon haven't put a swivel LCD on their top end cameras is the admitted potential for damage it entails. That and the fact that their LV tends to focus much slower than Olympus LV. While Olympus, and then Sony, were developing LV as a viable aspect of camera performance, Canon and Nikon were dragging their heels, viewing it as a secondary feature not worth optimizing on their otherwise excellent cameras.

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You know Sergey, pointing to such a small percentage situation to try to dismiss the feature is evidence of a failed argument.
You call fast focusing ability a small percentage ? I don't know about you, but to me it sounds like backwards somehow.
There are so many situations in which a swivel LCD is useful beyond chasing fast moving bugs in marco...I just have to laugh about your argument.
And there are even more situations where fast AF is more important that the live view. Like I said, once it becomes as fast as the optical viewfinder it will be a different game altogether.

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Yeah it was so lame when it was on the E-620, just like the swivel screen. Nikon fanboys were laughing. Now they have them on their cameras and it's great. Same old story.
The swivel screen is only present in the lower end Nikon cameras. So unless those "fanboys" were laughing at you, I would not be taking them for real (even if they are real). Now for a test, in live view, can you quickly focus on a fast moving object, like in a macro mode on a fast moving bug? I know I can with the angle-view through the optical viewfinder (which is what I use for the low level shots), but I am not that sure the same can be done with the live view yet (unless it is Sony of course). If not, then what's the use of it? And if the live view finally becomes as fast as through the optical viewfinder, then it won't be the same thing, will it?
There are many situation where swivel screen is very useful. For me it helped by making some kind of pictures much more easy and precise do do. Your attitude about this shows how close minded you are.
And it happened like that with many things. Like ,,VR is not important at all for wide lenses,,. Now they have the 16-35mm VR and it's the greatest thing ever.
When there was no IS in Olympus cameras, same people,

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1022&message=12842418
Oh, there are many Olympus fanboys in denial too, I never said there aren't any.
The thing with IS on va lenses is that it does not even work right. Or better put it works sometimes, but not always. I don't know about the VR though, never tried it.
Yes it does. Despite what some have said in these forums, I found the use of IS even in my 7-14mm. It works, and works well.
 
I'm sure that many of us appreciate our little Oly's illuminated buttons. Well now you can have that on your Nikon, for only $5999. I bet this unique feature will get more respect once the pros enjoy it on their new D4s. ; >
Wow, the Oly fanboys are really pushing it to find straws to grasp.
 
There are many situation where swivel screen is very useful. For me it helped by making some kind of pictures much more easy and precise do do. Your attitude about this shows how close minded you are.
I do not say it is useless (even for some kind of pictures ;) ). That is why every decent compact has it. But in most situations, say between two, would you take a compact with swivel screen, or would you prefer a dSLR with optical viewfinder only. My choice would be dSLR. For both, ease and precision.

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There are many situation where swivel screen is very useful. For me it helped by making some kind of pictures much more easy and precise do do. Your attitude about this shows how close minded you are.
I do not say it is useless (even for some kind of pictures ;) ). That is why every decent compact has it. But in most situations, say between two, would you take a compact with swivel screen, or would you prefer a dSLR with optical viewfinder only. My choice would be dSLR. For both, ease and precision.

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Sure I'll take the DSLR any day if I cann afford carry, but why not have a swivel screen. If you don't need one, don't use it, if you do, it's there. E-5 has one and the camera is like a tank.

I also liked illuminated buttons on my E-620. When doing long exposures at night it was priceless.
 
Sure I'll take the DSLR any day if I cann afford carry, but why not have a swivel screen. If you don't need one, don't use it, if you do, it's there.
Absolutely, but I don't think this is how they build a professional top notch camera, but hanging anything they can find on it? The compacts is a different story.
I also liked illuminated buttons on my E-620. When doing long exposures at night it was priceless.
I sometimes use the illuminated top control panel, just to see the settings. There aren't that many buttons to get lost among.

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Sure I'll take the DSLR any day if I cann afford carry, but why not have a swivel screen. If you don't need one, don't use it, if you do, it's there.
Absolutely, but I don't think this is how they build a professional top notch camera, but hanging anything they can find on it? The compacts is a different story.
A tilt-rotate LCD does introduce a potential point of failure, and many E-3 owners reported the LCD de-laminating (Olympus fixed them under warranty). The E-5 variant is much more robust, but also won't fold open at 180 degrees which impairs using it in front-facing position -- although it is only slightly less than 180, so an annoyance.

If you drop any such camera with the LCD out it could bend or snap off.

OTOH, you can turn the LCD backwards as I do to protect it (I don't normally "chimp" or check shots) while a "top notch" camera exposes the LCD to potential damage from the same sorts of drops.

I find such an LCD useful, and if you don't then you can leave it in the "normal" position and you lose nothing.
I also liked illuminated buttons on my E-620. When doing long exposures at night it was priceless.
I sometimes use the illuminated top control panel, just to see the settings. There aren't that many buttons to get lost among.
The Olympus bodies tend to have a lot of buttons, and memorising their location isn't straight forward. The E-3 and E-5 have a group of three buttons on the left shoulder that I can never remember the order of, and as they control six functions (via the front and back dials) it is painful to have to use trial and error.

Another member here pointed out that the E-3 and E-5 ergonomics look to be a near duplicate of the Canon 1D, so presumably 1D series owners have similar frustrations.

The E-5 doesn't have a dedicated IS button like the E-3, so I guess that makes it easier. :)
 
Frankly, for ergonomics, I prefer my Sony a850 full-frame. My E-620 is a not-so-close second, but far ahead of every Sony that's been introduced since. Sony has decided that every other maker is wrong, and single-control-dial cameras should have the dial in the front, where it competes for finger attention with the shutter button and the on-off switch that's -- oops! -- placed up there too.

As this thread's OP, it's funny to be called an Olympus fanboy. My main system is Sony, but I own no Sony lenses, just a nice selection of Minoltas plus a Sigma ultrawide. With Oly, I just have three low-grade lenses and the E-620. I use it with Nikon flashes. I don't think I'm anybody's fanboy. I just wanted to start some conversation about a surprise comparison between Oly's cheapest and Nikon's best...which admittedly has some other distinctions.
 

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