The swivel screen is only present in the lower end Nikon cameras. So unless those "fanboys" were laughing at you, I would not be taking them for real (even if they are real). Now for a test, in live view, can you quickly focus on a fast moving object, like in a macro mode on a fast moving bug? I know I can with the angle-view through the optical viewfinder (which is what I use for the low level shots), but I am not that sure the same can be done with the live view yet (unless it is Sony of course). If not, then what's the use of it? And if the live view finally becomes as fast as through the optical viewfinder, then it won't be the same thing, will it?