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buckshot said:
Baseman

I knew it was going to be high but that is out of range of what I could stretch to justify. In a year after all the crying I may be interested provided the price has come into line. For now it is a beautiful thing to look at

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The price has not changed on the X100....so I doubt this price will fall at all. ANd considering what it is, it's priced right.
 
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Faintandfuzzy said:
The price has not changed on the X100....so I doubt this price will fall at all. ANd considering what it is, it's priced right.
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Fujifilm made no bones about it they were going to price it high and keep it high but that price is for folks like you. I like the style but that is where the honeymoon ends. For far less money the funcionality and versitility of say a Nikon D7000 would far surpass this camera.

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JB
I am not a photographer, I am just a guy that takes pictures.
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dscottsatx said:
I think the X-Pro1 isn't designed to compete with dslrs
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Seriously? Interchangeable lenses for $1700 for the body alone? If not competing with dSLRs, what exactly is it competing with?
dscottsatx said:
or low to mid end compacts.
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:-) ... hyuk hyuk hyuk ... did you seriously just call the new Canon X a low t omid end compact?

It will stomp the X10, which most people consider a high end compact.
dscottsatx said:
It looks like it's aimed at those photographers who wish they could spend $7k for an M9, but can't.
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So you mean it is designed to appeal to people with too much money.

Well, that explains it.
dscottsatx said:
If list is $1700 and lenses are $650, you could pick up the entire three lens kit for half the cost of an M9 without any lenses at all. If an m lens adapter is possible...
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And you would still not have a Leica ... nor would you have a dSLR ... it remains to be seen what exactly you would have for your rather large outlay ...

But since the Canon is likely to come pretty close in IQ for 800 bucks, it should be pretty interesting to see who buys what ... I'm betting that we don't see too many Pro1 owners on this forum ...

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rattymouse said:
Kim Letkeman said:
rattymouse said:
Kim Letkeman said:
Baseman said:
Expect the body around $1700. Lenses around $650
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Against the Canon X that has everything included with a similar sized sensor for $799 all in.

Interesting ...

I can see it selling if the XTrans sensor is amazing ... otherwise, not too sure. Nice how Fuji continue to use terms like "EXT technologies" for the X100 and X Pro1 when those two have no EXR in them at all. EXR is paired pixels and these other cameras do not pair the pixels.
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You are incorrect. With the release of the X100, Fujifilm introduced the "EXR Processor". That is what the X100 has and the camera has that name stamped on the top side. What makes a processor "EXR" was never fully explained by Fujifilm.

EXR now means more than just paired pixels.
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I am not incorrect because that was exactly my point. Fuji did their usual hocus pocus in the marketing department and decided that EXR technology was important so they would stamp it on every X series camera, even though it now just means "we gave our chips a name" ...
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Regardless,the X100 and X-1 Pro have EXR in their internals now as Fujifilm has expanded the definition of what EXR is. It is no longer just paired pixels. It would be nice if Fujifilm would define what makes a processor EXR.
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Three letter silk screened onto the chip. Exactly what makes and EXPEED chip EXPEED and a BINZ chip BIONZ ...

The main difference is that EXR used to mean something quite specific ...

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Faintandfuzzy said:
buckshot said:
Baseman

I knew it was going to be high but that is out of range of what I could stretch to justify. In a year after all the crying I may be interested provided the price has come into line. For now it is a beautiful thing to look at

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JB
I am not a photographer, I am just a guy that takes pictures.
http://buckshotsimageblog.blogspot.com/
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The price has not changed on the X100....so I doubt this price will fall at all. ANd considering what it is, it's priced right.
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For people with too much money, yes.

The Leica owner wannabees for example ... that was already brought up in this thread.

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Looks like there is no in-body image stabilization, nor are any anti-shake lenses available.
 
Kim Letkeman said:
dscottsatx said:
I think the X-Pro1 isn't designed to compete with dslrs
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Seriously? Interchangeable lenses for $1700 for the body alone? If not competing with dSLRs, what exactly is it competing with? [...]
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Maybe with nothing.

I wonder whether they set its price purposely high and are not really hoping to sell that many nor to profit directly from its sales. In this sense, it would be a prestige product, mostly meant to heighten brand awareness (as a serious camera maker), one with a "see what we are capable of and drool" appeal like, say, a $150,000 Ford GT.

Were it priced slightly above a D7000, it would be a competitive but mundane camera.
 
CAcreeks said:
Looks like there is no in-body image stabilization, nor are any anti-shake lenses available.
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Looks like the zooms will have IS. As to bah humbug over no in body IS....I guess you don't like Canon or Nikon either. As well, they don't have any IS primes either.
 
Thanks for posting this most interesting thread. I enjoy it very much by the way.

I tend not to go for the cutting edge lattest of everything pertaining to digital photography tools. I still tend to stick what works for me and the ultimate goal of my photography which is fond memories with better than reasonable output but not professional in the slightest.

Hope this makes sense!

Be well and kind regards, Gary N W SFO
 
Kim Letkeman said:
lol101 said:
I don't think the X-Pro 1 is targeted at the same audience as the Canon.
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No kidding ...
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I'm dead serious.
Kim Letkeman said:
Kim Letkeman said:
Price, lens options, pretty much everything set them apart so comparisons are indeed difficult, even pointless IMO.
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And yet there are options now at every sensor size and price point, so they all get jumbled together because you can actually meet one or more goals at any of the price points ...

This one will be a favourite doctor / dentist cam ... that much is certain ...
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Priced like that and with its good looks, I have no doubt about it. ;-)
Kim Letkeman said:
Kim Letkeman said:
IQ and overall quality will be the decisive factors. Priced like this, the Fuji has better be better than FF cameras out there.
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I think, though, that costing much more than a D7000 will be an interesting issue ... because the D7000 is pretty incredible. As one example ... and the same superb sensor can be had in a $700 body ... the D5100.
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If IQ is similar to a D7000 or a K5 and given its price I can't really see the Pro as a success.

I'd buy a K5 + limited pancakes instead.

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Kim Letkeman said:
Lyle From Canada said:
Buying body and the 35 as soon as they are available. In the whole scheme of things $2500 is peanuts
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Funny.

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Not peanuts for most.

I'm not sure on this one I can see a niche for a high quality rangefinder type camera. And I suppose to some it's peanuts v a Leica (if you want to class it near there)

I could see a "not so pricey" body turn up for this because I think Fuji will need to shift some more to get people into the "system" if indeed it does actually take off.

On the other hand you can't help but wonder if most can be bothered with this and those wanting "compact beating IQ" will either get a DSLR (and for this outlay you can get a very nice one and a some good lenses and a flash) Or just grab a Canon G1X which looks like a decent deal to me

Maybe Canon are right on this one I'm can appreciate Fuji's unique twist on things to a point, but the entire "mirrorless" hype seems overplayed to me, and it's getting an awful lot more crowded in recent times.
 
In light of the experience with the X100 and X10, and now the pretty disparaging reactions to the X-Pro1, it almost seems as if Fujifilm is in the process of committing corporate suicide. But what could the motive be?
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Raymond Wardenaer said:
All the dust I could see was on my screen :-)
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Seconded.

Barry, where is the dust in that shot? Presumably you mean the portrait-mode (sideways) landscape with big rock in the middle.

Still seems overexposed with EV -1. Fujifilm seems to have forgotten how to meter properly.
 
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