I guess it's bye bye...

Wow, Daniella, that really is TERRIBLE vignetting! Some of the images in teh center are pretty nice, though. Still, you might do your own tests, since you already have the C210. Maybe you'll come up with different results.

Good luck.

fsw
http://www.pbase.com/j_a_hunt/c210

I will test the Tcon14 though...as with my 46mm C700 lens i had a
very nice usable range...the D7 is 49mm and it should work. I have
tried it with the Sony and it work at full zoom If it work at full
zoom with the D7 it might be a cheap solution for getting a better
depth of field narrowhing at full zoom or near 300mm alternative.

this this I should be quite near what i got at 2mp with my c700...
300mm at 5mp should be quite close to 380mm at 2mp.
fsw
I humbly would suggest keeping the C-210., Daniella. It is more
powerful than the TCON. On long-distant subjects, like birds, you
will get significantly closer, and you have so much resolution with
the D7 that you can crop out the vignetting and you will still be
better on than with the TCON. The C-210 is light, too.

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does the 717 as a EVF? it is way way way tooo expensive for
me..and even the 707 is still quite expensive..i got the D7 for
569$ new.
The 7x7 has one of the best EVF. Also, you can take infrared handheld, but of course limited to F2 & 1/60, but you still can talk infrared the traditional way :-)

Enjoy your new toy and I would love to see what you can do with it. What you have done with the C700 is unbelievable.

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I really doubt it. The D7 is 49mm and the C2100 is also 49mm and has vigneting also even at full 10x 380mm zoom. It's going to be sold..if anyone is interested.

I only used it 2 times.
Good luck.

fsw
http://www.pbase.com/j_a_hunt/c210

I will test the Tcon14 though...as with my 46mm C700 lens i had a
very nice usable range...the D7 is 49mm and it should work. I have
tried it with the Sony and it work at full zoom If it work at full
zoom with the D7 it might be a cheap solution for getting a better
depth of field narrowhing at full zoom or near 300mm alternative.

this this I should be quite near what i got at 2mp with my c700...
300mm at 5mp should be quite close to 380mm at 2mp.
fsw
I humbly would suggest keeping the C-210., Daniella. It is more
powerful than the TCON. On long-distant subjects, like birds, you
will get significantly closer, and you have so much resolution with
the D7 that you can crop out the vignetting and you will still be
better on than with the TCON. The C-210 is light, too.

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I extended my welcome to you earlier and hope you will.
How about this from D7:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1024&message=4020664
becasause nobody seams to be posting photos overthere...and if i
post them here i will probably be accused of sabotaging Olympus :)
although I will do some post to see.

check out this ISO 800 image rescaled down to 2mp taken with the D7:

http://www.pbase.com/image/9226970

hard to beleive this started as a ISO 800.
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Sorry to say...one thumb down!

I mean for the site...how do you see the photos? I registered but you need to have some special viewer to see them? what a wierd format .wbz ??
becasause nobody seams to be posting photos overthere...and if i
post them here i will probably be accused of sabotaging Olympus :)
although I will do some post to see.

check out this ISO 800 image rescaled down to 2mp taken with the D7:

http://www.pbase.com/image/9226970

hard to beleive this started as a ISO 800.
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I am still not sure how user manage to put their picture in.
will appreciate abit of help from you, if you still cannot view my picture at
http://community.webshots.com/photo/55938681/58150386bbsXcV
I mean for the site...how do you see the photos? I registered but
you need to have some special viewer to see them? what a wierd
format .wbz ??
becasause nobody seams to be posting photos overthere...and if i
post them here i will probably be accused of sabotaging Olympus :)
although I will do some post to see.

check out this ISO 800 image rescaled down to 2mp taken with the D7:

http://www.pbase.com/image/9226970

hard to beleive this started as a ISO 800.
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I can view them now, were they all taken with the Dimage 7 or only the thumb? the thumb down was a joke regarding the photo and the site...they tell you that you can download the photo if you subscribe for free but to get a decent res you need to pay. they do have some nice photos though.
I mean for the site...how do you see the photos? I registered but
you need to have some special viewer to see them? what a wierd
format .wbz ??
becasause nobody seams to be posting photos overthere...and if i
post them here i will probably be accused of sabotaging Olympus :)
although I will do some post to see.

check out this ISO 800 image rescaled down to 2mp taken with the D7:

http://www.pbase.com/image/9226970

hard to beleive this started as a ISO 800.
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All pictures were taken entilely with the D7
I mean for the site...how do you see the photos? I registered but
you need to have some special viewer to see them? what a wierd
format .wbz ??
becasause nobody seams to be posting photos overthere...and if i
post them here i will probably be accused of sabotaging Olympus :)
although I will do some post to see.

check out this ISO 800 image rescaled down to 2mp taken with the D7:

http://www.pbase.com/image/9226970

hard to beleive this started as a ISO 800.
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I too went through the same selection process about a year ago. From my testing and image analysis, rejected the D7. To each his/her own. Here are my findings...
The 602 is not a 5mp camera it's only 3 mp...not enough improvement
over my c700.
This is an incorrect assumption. I've extensively used the Oly C-700, Oly C-3000 , Fuji 602, Fuji 601, Fuji 2600. The 602 is closer to 4Mp. Here's a comparison I did with the D7 and the 602's predecessor, the 6900:
http://www.pbase.com/image/1718209/original

Here's another analysis I did comparing the Nikon 5700 (5Mp) against the 602:
http://www.pbase.com/mu/nikon_5mp_vs_fuji_3mp

Not bad for a 3Mp rated camera. The bottom line is that CCD pixel count is a poor indicator of how much detail a camera can actually resolve.
The 602 interpolation is just that....interpolation..looks as bad
as digital zoom if you ask me.
People always a) declare the Fuji 602 as only a 3Mp camera and b) complain about artifacts, but yet never combine the two and downsample the Fuji's 6Mp to 3Mp for evaluation. Here are some examples of 6Mp Fuji images downsampled to 4Mp. (They would look even better at 3Mp):
http://www.pbase.com/mu/fuji601
minimum shutter on the 602 is 3 seconds while the D7 can take 30
seconds exposure totaly free of hot pixels thanks to it's very
efficient noise reduction.
The 602 min shutter is actually 15 seconds in full manual mode (with excellent noise reduction). I recently took a lot of night pictures and noticed that one rarely needs to go longer than 3 secs. In fact, night pictures are best taken when there is still a little light in the sky. If you go past 3 secs, you end up burning out the brighter lit areas of the image loosing detail.
D7 has a Raw mode, not Raw mode on the 602.
Why bother with RAW if RAW vs non-RAW has no discernable difference in the end product?
A LOT of chromatic aberation on the 602, near to nothing on the D7
Actually, some of the D7 examples I've seen don't look so hot. Check out the CA and blurred corners:

http://www.pbase.com/image/510060
http://www.pbase.com/image/510061
http://www.pbase.com/image/510069
and last but not least...i hate the color of the 602...way too dull
for my taste and it cannot be adjusted in camera.
This is strange. I like Olympus for its true colors and actually found Fuji a little more saturated (but not overly so like Canon or Sony). Fuji is known for their excellent skin tones:

http://www.pbase.com/image/8718374

Also, the Fuji 602 has really wide dynamic range...it is very rare that you get blown highlights. The shadow areas are also quite free of color noise (speckles) so it is possible to brighten up the shadows in PS without concern. From the samples I've seen, the D7 has a very narrow dynamic range...if you expose for highlights, images are too dark and contrasty. Just check out Phil's samples...
 
This is an incorrect assumption. I've extensively used the Oly
C-700, Oly C-3000 , Fuji 602, Fuji 601, Fuji 2600. The 602 is
closer to 4Mp. Here's a comparison I did with the D7 and the 602's
predecessor, the 6900:
http://www.pbase.com/image/1718209/original

Here's another analysis I did comparing the Nikon 5700 (5Mp)
against the 602:
http://www.pbase.com/mu/nikon_5mp_vs_fuji_3mp
those are nice photos for sure, but all have been post-processed. If i look at one of your 6mp unprocessed and set to soft, then it's really not better than other 4mp.

at dpreview.com they mention that the 602 has a very aggressive sharpening...and I can see that in your comparaison tests the 602z look a bit oversharpened. that is probably a preference.

Your portraits are really awesome for sharpness and colors.
People always a) declare the Fuji 602 as only a 3Mp camera and b)
complain about artifacts, but yet never combine the two and
downsample the Fuji's 6Mp to 3Mp for evaluation. Here are some
examples of 6Mp Fuji images downsampled to 4Mp. (They would look
even better at 3Mp):
http://www.pbase.com/mu/fuji601
A little bit oversharpened to my taste though.
D7 has a Raw mode, not Raw mode on the 602.
Why bother with RAW if RAW vs non-RAW has no discernable difference
in the end product?
How do you know it does not produce better photos? If you don't have a raw mode to test it? just curious :)
A LOT of chromatic aberation on the 602, near to nothing on the D7
Actually, some of the D7 examples I've seen don't look so hot.
Check out the CA and blurred corners:

http://www.pbase.com/image/510060
http://www.pbase.com/image/510061
http://www.pbase.com/image/510069
yes but if you put the 602 or any camera in this situation...do you think the CA will be less? probably much worse than this. Again i have based my opinion on tests made at drpeview which compare all cameras in the SAME circonstance for CA.
and last but not least...i hate the color of the 602...way too dull
for my taste and it cannot be adjusted in camera.
This is strange. I like Olympus for its true colors and actually
found Fuji a little more saturated (but not overly so like Canon or
Sony). Fuji is known for their excellent skin tones:

http://www.pbase.com/image/8718374
Your photos are more vivid than the one on the dpreview samples..but the color cannot be adjusted on the 602 and i like the slide film look of saturated colors.
Also, the Fuji 602 has really wide dynamic range...it is very rare
that you get blown highlights.
Most people use the default setting that is too hard for contrast. when people take the time to set the camera correctly this is much better. Also many people use the DVU software which not only convert the color space but apply contrast as well. For that reason some peopel have stopped using this software. I was surprised to see that most D7 owners are point and shoot type of photographers, shooting at P or Auto mode.

At Dpreview.com they did not do well in their samples of the D7 in deed... I have also noticed the blow out highlight in many D7 photos and that is bothering me...i am studying this problem now with the help of the people in the Minolta forum.

Some argue that other type of photo look "flat" and it does a bit. I have yet to see a D7 image photo taken at -3 in contrast (no contrast adjustment) everybody use 0 which is too strong.

The shadow areas are also quite free
of color noise (speckles) so it is possible to brighten up the
shadows in PS without concern. From the samples I've seen, the D7
has a very narrow dynamic range...if you expose for highlights,
images are too dark and contrasty. Just check out Phil's samples...
Phill samples are very bad. looks like he did a good point and shoot job :)

Look at Steve review samples, it's a totaly different story. I think Steve really gets the best out of each camera that he try.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/dimage7_samples.html

BTW, how long exposure did you use for your infrared photos?

Can i see a full size image from those infrared photo? I want the D7 mainly for infrared.

the resolution is not the main factor that made me discard the 602 though..and you clearly proved to me that it is very good for resolution and detail!

.the limited ISO at max res, the limited shutter speed of 1/1000s in shutter priority compare to 1/2000s for the D7, I can use ISO 200 and get a fast 1/2000s for action shots. Since the D7 tend to blow out the hightlight, i would rather use no in camera contrat and shoot a bit darker to by pass that.
I like the 28mm lens of the D7

time lapse feature, full manual white balance. remote control possibility, EVF compensate for low light and has 100% coverage.

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Daniella,
Fuji is a 24 bit camera with 8 bits per color.

The fastest shutter speed for Fuji 602 is 1/10,000. It is very nice. I have 602 for a 10 days and it is a pleasure to use it. The 800 and 1,600 ISO are nice even they are of lower pixel count. The images in low light look very clean after C700. And again it is very nice camera, The ISO Resolution tests show the same number for extinction for these two cameras.

Really, for you it does not matter which one. You will make great photos with either one. (whispering- the 602 is better :-))))
Leo
I too went through the same selection process about a year ago.
From my testing and image analysis, rejected the D7. To each
.
.
.
light and has 100% coverage.
 
Why bother with RAW if RAW vs non-RAW has no discernable difference
in the end product?
How do you know it does not produce better photos? If you don't
have a raw mode to test it? just curious :)
I've reviewed the subtle differences in Phil's samples. For non-SLR digicams, the differences are so small that they would be lost in the printing process or downsampling for web use. Don't get me wrong..if the RAW converter software is good, the end result will be better than TIFF or JPEG. But realistically, will you be able to see the difference when printed or scaled down? (no one publishes 100% 5Mp images except for technical reasons).
and last but not least...i hate the color of the 602...way too dull
for my taste and it cannot be adjusted in camera.
This is strange. I like Olympus for its true colors and actually
found Fuji a little more saturated (but not overly so like Canon or
Sony). Fuji is known for their excellent skin tones:

http://www.pbase.com/image/8718374
Your photos are more vivid than the one on the dpreview
samples..but the color cannot be adjusted on the 602 and i like the
slide film look of saturated colors.
I guess it depends on philosophy. I'm of the opinion that a camera should attempt to capture reality, leaving matters of saturation for PS because what's lost due to oversaturation can never be recovered.
Some argue that other type of photo look "flat" and it does a bit.
I have yet to see a D7 image photo taken at -3 in contrast (no
contrast adjustment) everybody use 0 which is too strong.
see http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7HI/D7HIPICS.HTM

I still think that the compressed dynamic range of the D7 tends to give its pictures a stark, contrasty look instead of the smoother look of say the C-700.
BTW, how long exposure did you use for your infrared photos?
Typically 1 to 2 seconds at the lowest ISO 160, f5.0
Can i see a full size image from those infrared photo? I want the
D7 mainly for infrared.
Sure, I've uploaded an edited version and the original:
http://www.pbase.com/mu/infrared
the limited shutter speed of 1/1000s
in shutter priority compare to 1/2000s for the D7, I can use ISO
200 and get a fast 1/2000s for action shots.
Actually, 1/1000 is plenty quick to freeze action. If you really need a faster shutter, use M mode on the 602 and you can go from 15 seconds all the way to 1/10,000s.
I like the 28mm lens of the D7
time lapse feature, full manual white balance. remote control
possibility, EVF compensate for low light and has 100% coverage.
The Fuji 602 actually has two manual WB settings you can customize.

I like some of the features of the D7. But in the end, the image quality did not impress me, nor did it's seemingly finicky nature as reported by D7 owners.
 
humm are we talking about the same camera? 1/10,000? are you sure? dpreview specs mention 1/1000s in shutter priority.

If i had the money and if it would not use those awfully SLOW memory sticks..i would get the Sony 707. The 602 is nice i cannot deny, and i could get it at about the same price, but what shutter speed do you need to do infrared images?

why does dpreview mention 1/1000s in shutter priority and 1/2000s in Auto???
I too went through the same selection process about a year ago.
From my testing and image analysis, rejected the D7. To each
.
.
.
light and has 100% coverage.
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that is surely not a resolution or a quality that i desire though...it's not very sharp nor detailed.

I have nothing to complain about the D7 ISO as it's 5mp ISO 800 is easy to clean to produce a perfectly free of noise 3mp or 4mp, but with 5mp you don't loose detail in the process of cleaning ISO noise.
The 800 and 1,600 ISO are nice even they are of lower pixel count. The
images in low light look very clean after C700
Here's an unedited ISO 1600 shot at 1/125s, no flash:
http://www.pbase.com/image/9408804/original

...cleans up well in Neat Image if so desired.
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Check out the full specs here:

http://www.fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/bin/re2-WebFPS602Z2P_1_1_1.pdf

3 to 1/2000 in Auto mode,
3 to 1/1000 in program modes,
15 to 1/10,000 in manual.

Also Daniella, check out the "Dave box" images at Imaging Resource.

Use the "camera comparator" page and select the test box image on the left, then use the scrolling list at the top to choose models to compare.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

The D7 was very clean on the light reflections in the alarm bell (or whatever that thing is) that is used to test/show CA. For a striking comparison, dial in your C700 -- it screams purple around the reflected lights.
humm are we talking about the same camera? 1/10,000? are you
sure? dpreview specs mention 1/1000s in shutter priority.

If i had the money and if it would not use those awfully SLOW
memory sticks..i would get the Sony 707. The 602 is nice i cannot
deny, and i could get it at about the same price, but what shutter
speed do you need to do infrared images?

why does dpreview mention 1/1000s in shutter priority and 1/2000s
in Auto???
 
I've reviewed the subtle differences in Phil's samples. For non-SLR
digicams, the differences are so small that they would be lost in
the printing process or downsampling for web use. Don't get me
wrong..if the RAW converter software is good, the end result will
be better than TIFF or JPEG. But realistically, will you be able to
see the difference when printed or scaled down? (no one publishes
100% 5Mp images except for technical reasons).
If it gives more detail in landscape photo and more accurate color, then for those special photos it's worth it.

I was probably going to use Raw mode most of the time.

film look of saturated colors.
I guess it depends on philosophy. I'm of the opinion that a camera
should attempt to capture reality, leaving matters of saturation
for PS because what's lost due to oversaturation can never be
recovered.
The problem is it's hard to get saturation later in some color like the blue sky or the foliage. At least it's my experience with the c700. I like the fact that i can adjust that in camera in the raw data directly. the color from the 602 are pretty nice though...but are they straight out of the camera or did you increase the saturation later?
Some argue that other type of photo look "flat" and it does a bit.
I have yet to see a D7 image photo taken at -3 in contrast (no
contrast adjustment) everybody use 0 which is too strong.
see http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7HI/D7HIPICS.HTM
Actually this is the one from the D7...it was shot at

Saturation: normal
Sharpness: normal
contrast: normal

that is really not the best settings for that camera as this sharpness and this contrast are way too high. Saturation is not enough if the photo is to be used straight out of the camera and not converted to the proper color space.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7/FULLRES/D70OUTDP4.HTM

I would get the D7 not the D7hi...
I still think that the compressed dynamic range of the D7 tends to
give its pictures a stark, contrasty look instead of the smoother
look of say the C-700.
The dynamic range of the D7 is actually not all that bad..but setting sharpness to smooth and contrast to low (-3) will give a flat looking image with no sharp contrast. That can be adjusted later.

Look at Photosig.com for photo produced by the Dimage 7, they are awesome and none have blow out highlight or too narrow dynamic range.

Here is the dynamic range difference for some camera. Note that the D30 has the about the same dynamic range as the D7 at ISO 200.

Minolta DiMAGE 7
5mp JPEG FINE
100* 0.13 354:1 8.5 2.5D 51
100 0.14 289:1 8.2 2.5D 49
200 0.22 239:1 7.9 2.4D 48
400 0.41 153:1 7.3 2.2D 44
800 0.98 111:1 6.8 2.0D 41

Canon G1 50* 0.13 495:1 9.0 2.7D 54
50 0.12 366:1 8.5 2.6D 51
100 0.21 154:1 7.3 2.2D 44
200 0.37 89:1 6.5 1.9D 39
400 0.89 68:1 6.1 1.8D 37

Nikon Coolpix 990 100* 0.13 446:1 8.8 2.6D 53
100 0.19 290:1 8.2 2.5D 49
200 0.35 168:1 7.4 2.2D 44
400 0.44 104:1 6.7 2.0D 40

Canon EOS-D30 100* 0.08 488:1 8.9 2.7D 54
100 0.08 468:1 8.9 2.7D 53
200 0.14 289:1 8.2 2.5D 49
400 0.20 177:1 7.5 2.2D 45
800 0.38 94:1 6.6 2.0D 39
1600 0.70 56:1 5.8 1.7D 35

Nikon D1 200* 0.09 470:1 8.9 2.7D 53
200 0.11 380:1 8.6 2.6D 52
400 0.18 269:1 8.1 2.4D 49
800 0.40 152:1 7.2 2.2D 44
1600 0.82 97:1 6.6 2.0D 40
3200 1.04 92:1 6.5 2.0D 39
6400 2.55 59:1 5.9 1.8D 35
  • no in-camera sharpening
I looked at dpreview.com samples exif data and the photo were taken at normal sharpening and contrast..that's way too high. Also look at Steve review for the D7...different story.
BTW, how long exposure did you use for your infrared photos?
Typically 1 to 2 seconds at the lowest ISO 160, f5.0
Then the D7 is more sensitive to infrared. Most people use less than one second ISO 100. Although it's not as good as the Sony 707.
Can i see a full size image from those infrared photo? I want the
D7 mainly for infrared.
Sure, I've uploaded an edited version and the original:
http://www.pbase.com/mu/infrared
I don't see any full size image there..or did you took them at this small size?
the limited shutter speed of 1/1000s
in shutter priority compare to 1/2000s for the D7, I can use ISO
200 and get a fast 1/2000s for action shots.
Actually, 1/1000 is plenty quick to freeze action. If you really
need a faster shutter, use M mode on the 602 and you can go from 15
seconds all the way to 1/10,000s.
that's interesting..i wonder why it's not in Pill review for the 602z?
I like the 28mm lens of the D7
time lapse feature, full manual white balance. remote control
possibility, EVF compensate for low light and has 100% coverage.
The Fuji 602 actually has two manual WB settings you can customize.
I like some of the features of the D7. But in the end, the image
quality did not impress me, nor did it's seemingly finicky nature
as reported by D7 owners.
finicky nature? what does that mean?

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I really appreciate all of you helping me to make a better decision..i am quite torn between both the D7 and the 602...I like the features of the D7 better though...and it is more sensitive to infrared than the 602 which require longer shutter speed and higher ISO. About the same as my c700.

another thing that i don't like about the 602 is it's limited ISO resolution. but i like it's fast shutter speed. I just wonder what is the real maximum useable shutter speed? is it even possible to go over 1/2000s in most situations? I have been shooting with the C700 for a year and could sometimes go to 1/1000s but that needed good light. now if the 602 could keep it's resolution at higher ISO..that high shutter speed would be interesting..but i don't think i would use a 5mp camera at 1mp!

one other thing is look at these comparaison from dpreview.com

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujis602z/page13.asp

In these comparaisons i prefer the G2 image which is only 4mp but still look more detailed, especially for the word Sunday which you cannot even read on the 602 crop!

as you said..the D7 is very clean for chromatic aberation, while the 602 test at dpreview is about as bad as with my c700.

the 602 has a lot of barrel distortion at wide angle and i will use the camera at wide angle a lot.

i love:
D7

time lapse feature .
tilting the EVF with 100% frame coverage
auto low light compensation for the EVF.

The feature that detect the eye and switch off the LCD when you are looking through the EVF.
remote control available
Very low chromatic aberation
49mm lens thread so i can use my existing filters (I have many!)
color saturation adjutment
good sensitivity to infrared.
Raw format which has a much better dynamic range than .jpg and low noise
possibility to use different color space
28mm-200mm lens
histogram
Mechanical zoom ring on lens

From the 602 i like:

F11
I like the burst mode of the 602
burst mode with 5 last images
320 x 240, 30 fps with audio (unlimited length)
640 x 480, 30 fps with audio (unlimited length)
take smartmedia as well as CF (I have 4 SM 128 megs already)
sound in video
fast focusing
good battery life

The 602 seams to be a much better camera for action then the D7.

The D7 seams to be a better camera for landscape photography with it's 28mm lens and good IR sensitivity, time lapse feature and saturation adjutment.

overall..look at the watch here in the right bottom corner from the 602:

dpreview.com/reviews/FujiS602Z/Samples/Compared/G2/s602z.JPG

and here from the D7:

dpreview.com/reviews/orig.asp? reviews/minoltadimage7/samples/Compared/995_G1/d7_PICT1706.jpg

check out how the sony 707 did a nice job at the red color on those pencil! although it has the best resolution of the bunch, it totaly lost the red there..no detail at all:

dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSCF707/Samples/Compared/g2/f707.jpg

You need to put http://www . in front of these links..i did not want the 3 5mp images to pop up in this message.

It's really hard to choose a digital camera....always has been for me..ho well.
http://www.fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/bin/re2-WebFPS602Z2P_1_1_1.pdf

3 to 1/2000 in Auto mode,
3 to 1/1000 in program modes,
15 to 1/10,000 in manual.

Also Daniella, check out the "Dave box" images at Imaging Resource.
Use the "camera comparator" page and select the test box image on
the left, then use the scrolling list at the top to choose models
to compare.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

The D7 was very clean on the light reflections in the alarm bell
(or whatever that thing is) that is used to test/show CA. For a
striking comparison, dial in your C700 -- it screams purple around
the reflected lights.
humm are we talking about the same camera? 1/10,000? are you
sure? dpreview specs mention 1/1000s in shutter priority.

If i had the money and if it would not use those awfully SLOW
memory sticks..i would get the Sony 707. The 602 is nice i cannot
deny, and i could get it at about the same price, but what shutter
speed do you need to do infrared images?

why does dpreview mention 1/1000s in shutter priority and 1/2000s
in Auto???
--
Daniella
http://www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=26918
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 

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