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I just got the A77 last week and I just noticed something and maybe someone can tell me what to do.

If I take some pictures, then push the play button, I can scroll through the pictures. No problem. If I take a couple of videos, then push the play button, I can just scroll through the videos. I can't get back to scroll through the pictures unless I take another picture, then push play.

Is this normal? Doesn't seem to be.
 
You are in the Video folder and have to switch back to stils or VV.
 
Yes,

it's in video review. The easiest way to get back to pictures, is just fire off one shot & go back to review -- it will then be back to picture review
 
This is not meant rude, but the thing that I can highly recomment to do with the A77 is to read the manual, preferably more than once. This camera has compared to my A900, A700, A100 and Nex 5 so many settings that one needs to be aware of to get the most out of this camera that reading the manual is an absolute must IMHO.

I have this camera since the beginning of October. I have shot over 15000 images with it and I still have to remind myself that i.e. if I set the camera to handheld twilight, that I then have to set Jpeg in the menu to "finest" or it will shoot with a lower quality jpeg setting. And this is only ONE example of numerous settings that have to be tweaked when using the A77 to get its fullest potential.

Stuff such as if you set you camera to face detection "on", you can then still set your focus point independently to the face detection setting. The advantage of this is that the camera will try and give you an exposure that is correct for the face., even thought you might have used spot AF. The last point is something that I came across through a comment on one of the forums and it is mentioned somewhere in the manual, but as said..one has to read it carefully.

The camera's memory function (and my own...) was never so important for me then it is now with this camera!

This is also why I do not take any comments seriously of people who have tried the camera in shop...with this camera it is IMHO impossible to come to a "proper" conclusion after trying it quickly.

Have fun with your new camera.
Stef.
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Kappels said:
This is not meant rude, but the thing that I can highly recomment to do with the A77 is to read the manual, preferably more than once. This camera has compared to my A900, A700, A100 and Nex 5 so many settings that one needs to be aware of to get the most out of this camera that reading the manual is an absolute must IMHO.
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I did refer to the manual. On page 40 (Deleting images) it states:

1) Display the image you want to delete and press the "TRASH" icon.

2) Select [Delete] with [Up Arrow] on the multi-selector, then press the center of the multi-selector.

That's it for the Delete section!
Kappels said:
I have this camera since the beginning of October. I have shot over 15000 images with it and I still have to remind myself that i.e. if I set the camera to handheld twilight, that I then have to set Jpeg in the menu to "finest" or it will shoot with a lower quality jpeg setting. And this is only ONE example of numerous settings that have to be tweaked when using the A77 to get its fullest potential.

Stuff such as if you set you camera to face detection "on", you can then still set your focus point independently to the face detection setting. The advantage of this is that the camera will try and give you an exposure that is correct for the face., even thought you might have used spot AF. The last point is something that I came across through a comment on one of the forums and it is mentioned somewhere in the manual, but as said..one has to read it carefully.

The camera's memory function (and my own...) was never so important for me then it is now with this camera!

This is also why I do not take any comments seriously of people who have tried the camera in shop...with this camera it is IMHO impossible to come to a "proper" conclusion after trying it quickly.

Have fun with your new camera.
Stef.
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Thanks for the other tips. I appreciate it.
Kappels said:
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/15931938@N05/
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Kappels' advice to read the manual was really good advice:

Page 39 walks you moving between the stills & movie folders via the menu button...

Page 56 shows you a simpler (IMO) method of selecting your desired viewing folder via the grid view/AEL button (as Kilrah provided above).
Lavender Edwardo said:
I did refer to the manual. On page 40 (Deleting images) it states:

1) Display the image you want to delete and press the "TRASH" icon.

2) Select [Delete] with [Up Arrow] on the multi-selector, then press the center of the multi-selector.

That's it for the Delete section!
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I agree, I am finding the range of options and settings for the A77 overwhelming at times. I almost feel like I have to develop a checklist to take different kinds of shots. And when I am "under the gun", like taking shots of my kids, for example, it can be a bit nerve-racking. I don't think I will feel totally comfortable with all these types of shots for quite some time. So I guess I can see why many people just go to Auto or Auto+ for most of their applications. However, I feel the need to learn as much as possible.
 
I find it gets a bit better over time, but yes it is quite often a hell of a lot to remember. I usually have my screen set so that it shows all the settings, so that I can quickly check whether I have forgotten something. The memory settings come in handy too, as for i.e. raw shooting I prefer the neutral setting, with contrast -1, and dro set to off, while for jpegs I prefer standard setting with contrast +1 and dro set to auto.

Anyhow each time I have to adjust quickly all my settings to changing shooting situations I have to go through my mental check list. I hope it becomes second nature with a bit more time.
Stef.
fanboy6 said:
I agree, I am finding the range of options and settings for the A77 overwhelming at times. I almost feel like I have to develop a checklist to take different kinds of shots. And when I am "under the gun", like taking shots of my kids, for example, it can be a bit nerve-racking. I don't think I will feel totally comfortable with all these types of shots for quite some time. So I guess I can see why many people just go to Auto or Auto+ for most of their applications. However, I feel the need to learn as much as possible.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/15931938@N05/
 
well said Stef, dont know how anyone can comment on the A77 without using it for at least a month and without reading the manual. This is a complicated device, its like a new tv remote you need to study it first and practice a lot before you can get the hang of it

regards
Jaco
 
I am joining the club of the A77 users that have to read the manual a lot of times before being able to use, at least, a reasonable number of its many features.

In my opinion, learning from the manual is not very easy, as for the same subject you have often to jump to different pages. Quite seldom, a subject is completely covered in one single chapter and, in any case, you cannot understand, at least from the first reading, if a certain feature is important or not. One example: when I have read the chapter of the Multi Frame Noise Reduction, I didn't give it the right importance because I had already discovered the HHT function. Only after the various threads where "Zackiedawg" explained it (thanks) I have understood its potential.

Not to diminish the importance of the manual, I think that a well written book could be more helpful. I hope the one is writing Gary Friedman will be a good one. Probably I will buy it when it should be available at the end of January.

Claudio
 
Claudio, IMHO this Sony A77 manual is one of the worst that I have ever read and yes you are absolutely right...one has to really read ALL of the fine print and connect the dots to get the best out of this camera. Frankly, from all the cameras that I have ever used this one is the one where I think one has to remember the most.
Stef.
Claudio Galli said:
I am joining the club of the A77 users that have to read the manual a lot of times before being able to use, at least, a reasonable number of its many features.

In my opinion, learning from the manual is not very easy, as for the same subject you have often to jump to different pages. Quite seldom, a subject is completely covered in one single chapter and, in any case, you cannot understand, at least from the first reading, if a certain feature is important or not. One example: when I have read the chapter of the Multi Frame Noise Reduction, I didn't give it the right importance because I had already discovered the HHT function. Only after the various threads where "Zackiedawg" explained it (thanks) I have understood its potential.

Not to diminish the importance of the manual, I think that a well written book could be more helpful. I hope the one is writing Gary Friedman will be a good one. Probably I will buy it when it should be available at the end of January.

Claudio
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http://stefaniekappel.tumblr.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15931938@N05/
 
I have no problem with people asking questions on how to do things because no mater how much you read the manual (I downloaded it and read it long before I got the camera) you will never get it all. I didn't pay any attention to the multi stacking ISO either until, as mentioned, zackiedawg started his post about it. Even then I didn't see that you could choose the ISO to use for it. I asked and he told me.
 
Kappels said:
This is not meant rude, but the thing that I can highly recomment to do with the A77 is to read the manual, preferably more than once. This camera has compared to my A900, A700, A100 and Nex 5 so many settings that one needs to be aware of to get the most out of this camera that reading the manual is an absolute must IMHO.

I have this camera since the beginning of October. I have shot over 15000 images with it and I still have to remind myself that i.e. if I set the camera to handheld twilight, that I then have to set Jpeg in the menu to "finest" or it will shoot with a lower quality jpeg setting. And this is only ONE example of numerous settings that have to be tweaked when using the A77 to get its fullest potential.

Stuff such as if you set you camera to face detection "on", you can then still set your focus point independently to the face detection setting. The advantage of this is that the camera will try and give you an exposure that is correct for the face., even thought you might have used spot AF. The last point is something that I came across through a comment on one of the forums and it is mentioned somewhere in the manual, but as said..one has to read it carefully.

The camera's memory function (and my own...) was never so important for me then it is now with this camera!

This is also why I do not take any comments seriously of people who have tried the camera in shop...with this camera it is IMHO impossible to come to a "proper" conclusion after trying it quickly.
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Thanks for the insights..these are the things worth discussing by owners of the A77..would not have picked that up!!
 
Kappels said:
Claudio, IMHO this Sony A77 manual is one of the worst that I have ever read and yes you are absolutely right...one has to really read ALL of the fine print and connect the dots to get the best out of this camera. Frankly, from all the cameras that I have ever used this one is the one where I think one has to remember the most.
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It seems there is a direct correlation between how bad a manual is and how complicated the the camera is to use. The more features the more difficult the manual is to use. Most manufacturers seem to view the instruction manual as an after thought. The worst ones are those that are direct translations from another language.

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Tom

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