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Hi.. I'm not a G2 owner but have always wanted it. Always been fascinated with canon colour and superb quality. I recently receieved a photo from my friend taken with a G2. The scene was in his living room, no flash with a tripod. It seems as the mixed lighting conditions confused the white balance so the pic looks pretty orangey. Moreover, it also seems to exhibit a foggy cast. I tried correcting it last night but couldn't. I tried using the eyedropper in the levels function and even colour balance but achieved little success.

So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it? Thanks.

Here's the pic:



For some reason the exif is gone.. I asked him if he had edited it but he said no. Thanks.

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T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
 
lck0925 said:
Hi.. I'm not a G2 owner but have always wanted it. Always been
fascinated with canon colour and superb quality. I recently
receieved a photo from my friend taken with a G2. The scene was in
his living room, no flash with a tripod. It seems as the mixed
lighting conditions confused the white balance so the pic looks
pretty orangey. Moreover, it also seems to exhibit a foggy cast.
I tried correcting it last night but couldn't. I tried using the
eyedropper in the levels function and even colour balance but
achieved little success.

So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it?
Thanks.

Here's the pic:



For some reason the exif is gone.. I asked him if he had edited it
but he said no. Thanks.

--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
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I had no problem correcting the color balance with PSP 7.0. Corrected with Auto Color Balance at 7472 Kelvin (very cool/blue setting). Setting to remove color cast was checked also.

John McCormack
Resist all happy snaps!!
 
The pic doesn't look bad - the tree for example is about right. If you corrected the whole image you'd probably end up with a very blue tree!

Have you tried Photoshop Auto Levels? That usually sorts out that sort of problem.

Geoff
 
Thanks for the quick reply.. I have PS7 too.. but i can't find auto colour balance.. i see auto colour.. see colour balance tho. Can't seem to find 7472 Kelvin or "remove color cast" options. Could u point me in the right direction? Thanks.

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John McCormack said:
I had no problem correcting the color balance with PSP 7.0.
Corrected with Auto Color Balance at 7472 Kelvin (very cool/blue
setting). Setting to remove color cast was checked also.

John McCormack
Resist all happy snaps!!
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
 
Yep.. tried auto levels.. wouldn't work for me this time hehe. Besides the orange cast what's with the foggy look too??

T
Geoff Crowther said:
The pic doesn't look bad - the tree for example is about right. If
you corrected the whole image you'd probably end up with a very
blue tree!

Have you tried Photoshop Auto Levels? That usually sorts out that
sort of problem.

Geoff
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
 
lck0925 said:
So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it?



--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
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Not sure I would call myself an expert, but I do play with PS a bit. In this case, I adjusted levels for each color channel seperately, then I adjusted curves to brighten and add contrast. Then I desaturated the reds a bit. Finally, I did a little sharpening.

Hope this helps,
Mark
http://www.pbase.com/mplonsky
 
Mark said:
lck0925 said:
So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it?



--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...


Not sure I would call myself an expert, but I do play with PS a
bit. In this case, I adjusted levels for each color channel
seperately, then I adjusted curves to brighten and add contrast.
Then I desaturated the reds a bit. Finally, I did a little
sharpening.

Hope this helps,
Mark
http://www.pbase.com/mplonsky
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Here's what I got from adjusting the levels and using a white balance probe in Picture Window. I then sharpened it using the default settings in Ultra Sharpen. I think the fuzziness around Kenny is a result of a slow shutter speed and camera shake. It must have been shot at a slow shutter speed to get a good exposure indoors. The color cast was, of course, from the incandescent lighting, probably using an outdoor WB setting. Try to ignore all the jpeg artifacts - result of reprocessing and reloading the jpeg image too many times.



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'It's all about light'
Don McVee
http://www.pbase.com/mcveed
latest uploads at http://www.pbase.com/mcveed/canada
 
lck0925 said:
Thanks for the quick reply.. I have PS7 too.. but i can't find auto
colour balance.. i see auto colour.. see colour balance tho. Can't
seem to find 7472 Kelvin or "remove color cast" options. Could u
point me in the right direction? Thanks.

T
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Sorry, these commands are part of Paint Shop Pro, not Photoshop.

--
John McCormack
Resist all happy snaps!!
 
Only one advice - shoot in Raw.

White balance is easy to change in the process of converting of the raw image. Any other tool is not so successful. Raw shooting is one of the key advantages of G2.

Greetings,
Roumen
http://www.pbase.com/roumen
lck0925 said:
Hi.. I'm not a G2 owner but have always wanted it. Always been
fascinated with canon colour and superb quality. I recently
receieved a photo from my friend taken with a G2. The scene was in
his living room, no flash with a tripod. It seems as the mixed
lighting conditions confused the white balance so the pic looks
pretty orangey. Moreover, it also seems to exhibit a foggy cast.
I tried correcting it last night but couldn't. I tried using the
eyedropper in the levels function and even colour balance but
achieved little success.

So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it?
Thanks.

Here's the pic:



For some reason the exif is gone.. I asked him if he had edited it
but he said no. Thanks.

--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...
 
The easiest thing to do is to use layers and set the blending mode to screen - adjust opacity until you are pleased, then choose Hue/Saturation. Choose Yellow and adjust Saturation to -15 and Lightness to +54. The Red channel is also oversaturated. Reds Saturation -13 and Lightness +11. Play around with the values to get the most natural skin tone. Then tweak the curves until the contrast is improved. This is not the best option, but quick and easy. Here is a link to an excellent article by Bruce Frasieron how to set up and effectively use PS7's Auto Color:
http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/17164-1.html
also Russell Brown has a tutorial:
http://russellbrown.com/body.html


lck0925 said:
Hi.. I'm not a G2 owner but have always wanted it. Always been
fascinated with canon colour and superb quality. I recently
receieved a photo from my friend taken with a G2. The scene was in
his living room, no flash with a tripod. It seems as the mixed
lighting conditions confused the white balance so the pic looks
pretty orangey. Moreover, it also seems to exhibit a foggy cast.
I tried correcting it last night but couldn't. I tried using the
eyedropper in the levels function and even colour balance but
achieved little success.

So
Click to expand...
 
lck0925 said:
Hi.. I'm not a G2 owner but have always wanted it. Always been
fascinated with canon colour and superb quality. I recently
receieved a photo from my friend taken with a G2. The scene was in
his living room, no flash with a tripod. It seems as the mixed
lighting conditions confused the white balance so the pic looks
pretty orangey. Moreover, it also seems to exhibit a foggy cast.
I tried correcting it last night but couldn't. I tried using the
eyedropper in the levels function and even colour balance but
achieved little success.

So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it?
Thanks.

Here's the pic:



For some reason the exif is gone.. I asked him if he had edited it
but he said no. Thanks.

--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...
you can't use eye dropper unless you have white, black or neutral grey. i'd start with auto everything. and see what works. if not that then varitions, or color balance, a few others. more blue should remove the yellows. and a little more green, should remove what's left and raise it's luminance a little.

the haze is blur - and is either a dirty lens, camera shake (no flash), or dark room and it didn't focus right. not too much can fix that. a high pass sharpen maybe, but not too likely.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/ http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
 
what needs to be used is auto color cast remover - ctrl shift L i believe. then ctrl shift L for auto levels. then alt shift L for auto contrast. between those steps you cane use FADE and i think it's ctrl shift L (i'm doing these by memory, btw). so you can vary the effect on each one. as often it over does the colors.

---Mike Savad
Geoff Crowther said:
The pic doesn't look bad - the tree for example is about right. If
you corrected the whole image you'd probably end up with a very
blue tree!

Have you tried Photoshop Auto Levels? That usually sorts out that
sort of problem.

Geoff
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/ http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
 
Thanks for the tips mike.. i remember you from a year ago.. (and ur bee[?] pic hehe). I have left the canon forum for awhile as I've purchased a 717 instead of the G3. = )

Yeah.. i asked my friend and he told me that he was playing around with the manual focusing so he probably messed it up.. he used a tripod and remote.. = )

I'll be sure to try it out. Thanks.

T
mike savad said:
you can't use eye dropper unless you have white, black or neutral
grey. i'd start with auto everything. and see what works. if not
that then varitions, or color balance, a few others. more blue
should remove the yellows. and a little more green, should remove
what's left and raise it's luminance a little.

the haze is blur - and is either a dirty lens, camera shake (no
flash), or dark room and it didn't focus right. not too much can
fix that. a high pass sharpen maybe, but not too likely.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
 
Mark said:
lck0925 said:
So.. are there any experts here that can tell me how to fix it?



--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...


Not sure I would call myself an expert, but I do play with PS a
bit. In this case, I adjusted levels for each color channel
seperately, then I adjusted curves to brighten and add contrast.
Then I desaturated the reds a bit. Finally, I did a little
sharpening.

Hope this helps,
Mark
http://www.pbase.com/mplonsky
Click to expand...
this is probably a little brighter then it needs to be:



hope that works.

used curves, color balance, selective color, high pass sharpen, and removed the light plate above the head. there is alot of jpeg loss on this, made it really tough.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/ http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
 
just to zero me in - as i'm very active on two boards - bee picture - no idea what that is. just trying to figure it out is all.

---Mike Savad
lck0925 said:
Yeah.. i asked my friend and he told me that he was playing around
with the manual focusing so he probably messed it up.. he used a
tripod and remote.. = )

I'll be sure to try it out. Thanks.

T
mike savad said:
you can't use eye dropper unless you have white, black or neutral
grey. i'd start with auto everything. and see what works. if not
that then varitions, or color balance, a few others. more blue
should remove the yellows. and a little more green, should remove
what's left and raise it's luminance a little.

the haze is blur - and is either a dirty lens, camera shake (no
flash), or dark room and it didn't focus right. not too much can
fix that. a high pass sharpen maybe, but not too likely.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/ http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
 
Hint Macro.

T
mike savad said:
  • no idea what that is. just trying to figure it out is all.
---Mike Savad
lck0925 said:
Yeah.. i asked my friend and he told me that he was playing around
with the manual focusing so he probably messed it up.. he used a
tripod and remote.. = )

I'll be sure to try it out. Thanks.

T
mike savad said:
you can't use eye dropper unless you have white, black or neutral
grey. i'd start with auto everything. and see what works. if not
that then varitions, or color balance, a few others. more blue
should remove the yellows. and a little more green, should remove
what's left and raise it's luminance a little.

the haze is blur - and is either a dirty lens, camera shake (no
flash), or dark room and it didn't focus right. not too much can
fix that. a high pass sharpen maybe, but not too likely.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
 
nope... still don't know - since having the camera i've taken nearly 40,000 photo's. and atleast 1000 or so of those are bees or flies.

---Mike Savad
lck0925 said:
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mike savad said:
  • no idea what that is. just trying to figure it out is all.
---Mike Savad
lck0925 said:
Yeah.. i asked my friend and he told me that he was playing around
with the manual focusing so he probably messed it up.. he used a
tripod and remote.. = )

I'll be sure to try it out. Thanks.

T
mike savad said:
you can't use eye dropper unless you have white, black or neutral
grey. i'd start with auto everything. and see what works. if not
that then varitions, or color balance, a few others. more blue
should remove the yellows. and a little more green, should remove
what's left and raise it's luminance a little.

the haze is blur - and is either a dirty lens, camera shake (no
flash), or dark room and it didn't focus right. not too much can
fix that. a high pass sharpen maybe, but not too likely.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
Click to expand...
--
T
Sony F717, Canon S110, Sunpak 383 Super
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/ http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
 
Hehe.. this one:



or this one:



The funny thing was I used to send the large version's link to a fellow coworker @ work. He would reply to my email and say I should not scare him like that. Then he stopped opening the links.. i got him tho.. i embedded it into an asp page and redirected him to it hehe..

I like them. = )

T
mike savad said:
nope... still don't know - since having the camera i've taken
nearly 40,000 photo's. and atleast 1000 or so of those are bees or
flies.

---Mike Savad
Click to expand...
 
that's why it through me off. as those are dragonfly faces. anything new that i wanted to upload is in my photosig account.

---Mike Savad
lck0925 said:


or this one:



The funny thing was I used to send the large version's link to a
fellow coworker @ work. He would reply to my email and say I
should not scare him like that. Then he stopped opening the
links.. i got him tho.. i embedded it into an asp page and
redirected him to it hehe..

I like them. = )

T
mike savad said:
nope... still don't know - since having the camera i've taken
nearly 40,000 photo's. and atleast 1000 or so of those are bees or
flies.

---Mike Savad
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/ http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050
 
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