Are D700 users interested in the rumored D800?

beshannon · Dec 19, 2011

I am not interested in rumors.

When a replacement for my D700 is in a store that I can see, touch and try out, then I will pay attention.

Having said that I am very happy with my D700 and as a hobbyist I cannot see needing to buy a D800.
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Raul · Dec 19, 2011

hmmm
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brunobarolo · Dec 19, 2011

... to my D700 that I will keep using.

ohmydentist · Dec 19, 2011

Soon, folks will be saying:

Oh, noise matches D700, WHEN resized to the same size. This is what A77 folks are saying now.

So much for progress . . .

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rhlpetrus · Dec 19, 2011

What's wrong with that (but I think it'll be closer to D3s)? How about base ISO DR? And 36MP in FF is similar in density to 16MP in APS-C, not to 24MP as in the A77/Nex7.

ohmydentist said:
Soon, folks will be saying:

Oh, noise matches D700, WHEN resized to the same size. This is what A77 folks are saying now.

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BrianHalcYoN · Dec 19, 2011

No. It ain't for me. I need low light, I need framerate better than 4fps. A used D3s is in the card unless the D4 is truly compelling for video work that I am getting closer to getting serious about. We'll see, but the D800 certainly seems to be geared towards time on a tripod.
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bobn2 · Dec 19, 2011

ohmydentist said:
Soon, folks will be saying:

Oh, noise matches D700, WHEN resized to the same size. This is what A77 folks are saying now.

No need for any active resizing. Just go through the workflow, display your photos at whatever size you display them and voila, you are looking at them the same size. People who trot out this 'resizing' argument ignore the fact that we virtually never view images at native pixel count. It never has made any sense to compare a postage stamp with a billboard. Make same size images from the D700 and D800 and you will find that the D800 ones have more detail and less visible noisy stuff whatever the size you choose to look at them.
That's progress indeed.

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bgbs · Dec 19, 2011

D800 has too many pixels for the type of work I do.

If D800 was 16 to 18 mp, with improved ISO and DR, it would be the perfect upgrade

With 36mp I feel I'm being ripped apart here, because I will not be getting a incremental suitable upgrade. D800 is worlds apart from D700. They shouldn't have called it D800 because this camera is clearly designed for different purpose than D700 was.

wchutt · Dec 19, 2011

If the dynamic range is 2 stops better and the sync speed is a few stops faster, I will upgrade.

Otherwise, spending the money to upgrade would be silly for my work.

ssh33 · Dec 19, 2011

DWEverett said:
1) are D700 users excited about the D800 as an upgrade or do you view it as fitting a different need/niche?

We'll just have to wait and see when it comes out.

I will buy a used next generation body in a couple years. I can justify a big investment in new lenses, but not a body - it depreciates too fast.

Nikon price point for a new "enthusiast" FX camera is still way too high. It needs to be $2k to be attractive to me, not over $3k after taxes.

In regards to 36mp/ISO: whatever, the new body is going to be more capable than the old one, in some areas more so than the others. You gonna love it.

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Fabio Amodeo · Dec 19, 2011

I think the D800 will not be a replacement for D700. D800 is ideal for studio/portrait/groups/landscape. D700 is used mainly for pj, available light, sports. I think Nikon should keep on producing both. They are targeted for different markets who do not want the cost and bulk of D3/D4. I can't see why Nikon cannot serve both markets. D700 at the current price is also a good backup for pros. I don't see a $3500-4000 camera, as the D800 may end up, as a proper backup. A bit too costly in my humble view.

By the way, I wish D800 a huge success. That will free a lot of used D700s on the market. I might even afford one, and get out of DX.
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TFergus · Dec 19, 2011

Personally, I am more interested in the rumored D400

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rhlpetrus · Dec 19, 2011

I think this may well be a camera that will last forever for me. But I still see a D800h coming, the D800 with the D4's sensor, later 2012 if the D4 actually arrives next month, as some say now.

It looks like there will be no D4x, but there's space for two smaller FFs, one for landscape/studio, other for PJs and action shooters.
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Ralf Ronander · Dec 19, 2011

That´s true, and I agree.

But size matters: a big print viewed from a few feet away gives another impact than a small print viewed up close, even if the resolution of the different prints are the same.

Your 60 inch HDTV can´t compete with a real movie theater (for watching a movie).

One of the virtues of a high pixel density camera is the option to make bigger prints.

rhlpetrus · Dec 19, 2011

bobn2 said:
ohmydentist said:

Soon, folks will be saying:

Oh, noise matches D700, WHEN resized to the same size. This is what A77 folks are saying now.

Click to expand...

No need for any active resizing. Just go through the workflow, display your photos at whatever size you display them and voila, you are looking at them the same size. People who trot out this 'resizing' argument ignore the fact that we virtually never view images at native pixel count.

We do in all these 100% crop tests. People post 100% crops all the time for noise arguments. That will happen when D800 is released. For actual images, you are right, but people into pixel-peeping never post actual images

. Here's one from my D7k, I want that IQ at a larger size:

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Ralf Ronander · Dec 19, 2011

Beautiful eyes,
but I´m sure there is more sharpness to be had from that file

BTW,did you apply that lipstick? Just kidding

anotherMike · Dec 19, 2011

Sure, I'm interested - it's new stuff and that's always fun.

Whether I'll be interested in buying one (and I won't be an early adopter) will be determined how the other aspects of image quality that nobody seems to discuss perform, mainly color discrimination performance and skin tone rendering.

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ohmydentist · Dec 19, 2011

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rhlpetrus · Dec 19, 2011

Ralf Ronander said:
Beautiful eyes,
but I´m sure there is more sharpness to be had from that file

I did very basic USM for internet posting.

Ralf Ronander said:
BTW,did you apply that lipstick? Just kidding

My wife complained she wasn't ready yet! But I like that way, actually.

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MarcoSJ · Dec 19, 2011

36 MPx is a monster!

I would prefer a 24 MPx D800 with improved ISO and DR, 8 FPS, built in GPS.

So for me, a mix of D800 and D4 would be the right one.

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