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Shay, or anyone who may know the answer--I noticed that you have a picture on your website where you blurred the background while keeping the subject sharp (the baby). How did you do that, if I may ask? I'm using PSP7, and the only way I know to blur is to apply it to the whole image; I don't know how to apply it selectively.

The reason I say anyone, is I noticed somewhere on the forum that someone did the same to a picture of theirs (I believe it was a Christmas ornament, and I believe they said they were using PSP7). If anyone can help, I'd be much appreciative!

Thanks,
Robert
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Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
 
Oh, and Shay. One more question. I know you said earlier to me that you used a digital warming filter? I know you're probably using PS, but can you tell me a little more about that, and perhaps I can translate it to PSP? You did a fabulous job on your wife's picture, btw! Absolutely fantastic! I can see the warming effect that you were talking about; I'd just like to learn how to do HALF of what you can do!!

Thanks,
Robert Nix said:
Shay, or anyone who may know the answer--I noticed that you have a
picture on your website where you blurred the background while
keeping the subject sharp (the baby). How did you do that, if I
may ask? I'm using PSP7, and the only way I know to blur is to
apply it to the whole image; I don't know how to apply it
selectively.

The reason I say anyone, is I noticed somewhere on the forum that
someone did the same to a picture of theirs (I believe it was a
Christmas ornament, and I believe they said they were using PSP7).
If anyone can help, I'd be much appreciative!

Thanks,
Robert
--
Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
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Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
 
Here is a simple way - there's more advanced methods, but this is easier to follow if you're new to PSP.

Make your selection on part of the image you want to be in focus. Use whatever selection tool you prefer. Lassoo might be best with antialais checked; (or use the magic lassoo). Be very careful to outline only what you want to be clear. Zoom in if you need to, and temporarily get rid of the tool dialog box by hitting the Tab key. (Any dialog box will certainly be in the way if you zoom) You can turn that back on when you're done making the detailed selection.

Then on top menu click Selections > Invert.

Then click Effects > Blur > Gaussian Blur tool. Try maybe 2.0?

Ctl + D to deselect the selection's 'marching ants'

Save it.
  • David
Robert Nix said:
Robert Nix wrote:
Shay, or anyone who may know the answer--I noticed that you have a
picture on your website where you blurred the background while
keeping the subject sharp (the baby). How did you do that, if I
may ask? I'm using PSP7, and the only way I know to blur is to
apply it to the whole image; I don't know how to apply it
selectively.

The reason I say anyone, is I noticed somewhere on the forum that
someone did the same to a picture of theirs (I believe it was a
Christmas ornament, and I believe they said they were using PSP7).
If anyone can help, I'd be much appreciative!

Thanks,
Robert
--
Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
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What other members told you is very good but here is another way which I use most of the time:

-Duplicate your original layer and put the duplicate on top of the original in the layer window.
-Select the duplicate layer (top one) then apply whichever blur you want to it.
  • Select the eraser tool, choose the eraser (brush) size you need, and start erasing the subject you want to be in focus from the center to the edge of it. When you'll get close to the edge of your focus subject, you should go down on brush size and maybe change the opacity to something lower. Think as if it was a real eraser, the more you press on it (more opacity, in this case 100%) the more you erase, the less the less it erase.
I hope I made myself clear enough, my English is not really good for technical stuff. Cheers.
Robert Nix said:
Shay, or anyone who may know the answer--I noticed that you have a
picture on your website where you blurred the background while
keeping the subject sharp (the baby). How did you do that, if I
may ask? I'm using PSP7, and the only way I know to blur is to
apply it to the whole image; I don't know how to apply it
selectively.

The reason I say anyone, is I noticed somewhere on the forum that
someone did the same to a picture of theirs (I believe it was a
Christmas ornament, and I believe they said they were using PSP7).
If anyone can help, I'd be much appreciative!

Thanks,
Robert
--
Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
Click to expand...
--
Yann
http://www.pbase.com/ykeesing
 
Robert Nix said:
Shay, or anyone who may know the answer--I noticed that you have a
picture on your website where you blurred the background while
keeping the subject sharp (the baby). How did you do that, if I
may ask? I'm using PSP7, and the only way I know to blur is to
apply it to the whole image; I don't know how to apply it
selectively.
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I have a PSP7 tutorial on selecting a subject, that you might find useful, here;
http://www.thebitteroldman.com/psp/psp7.htm

Once you make your selection, there are a number of ways to apply the blur. You can invert the selection and apply blur. You can duplicate the layer, delete the selection on the 2nd layer and then blur the 2nd layer. If you have problems or don't understand something I've written there, please don't hesitate to send me an email.

There are also links to other tutorial sites, including the FAQ site, which is very good.

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http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
Ok, now I don't just mean using the distort filter. What I wanted to do here was have some fun with a "web site under construction graphic" I wanted to make it look like I was inside the sreen writing on it with a marker. So I took pictures of myself hodling up a pen (not behind glass at all, just a clean photo.)

Then I made duplicate layers on photoshop and blurred each layer a little more. about 3-4 layers. So at this point I have the layers aranged with the most blured in the back. Now I go and take all layers but the back and create a mask and inverted it so its like the layer was erased but you can undo it. I think took a wacom tablet so I could (just pressure sensitive pen) and drew back in the less blurred layers for forground objects to simulate the sence of depth behind glass as it diffuses with distance. I then used that same pressure sensitive pen to draw on the 'glass'. I know it should be backwards but I did not want to give people headaches.



Here is the photo in place on web site (for the time being)
http://www.urbanartcommission.org/projects.html

This is a really basic subject and I was very happy with the results and the ease with which I created it however I plan on doing some more advanced ones in the future. Of coruse why don't I just get a pice of glass and shoot behind it? ok I don't have an answer for that; but I have this idea of taking a series of photos of an object with a lot of depth changes and then shooting throughout the full spectrum of focus. Then I want to setup on a site a photo which allows you to drag the cursor to an area that brings it into focus. This would not require any of the work I have done above, would basically be like a movie but user controled; but it is what gave me the idea for the photo above. Would probably make a QTVR object or something similar; could also provide an optional focus slider and display exif date if doing for educatinal purposes.

--
David Goldwasser
http://www.inertia-llc.com
 
Robert,
Nice job. It really does look like you're behind frosted glass.
David Goldwasser said:
Ok, now I don't just mean using the distort filter. What I wanted
to do here was have some fun with a "web site under construction
graphic" I wanted to make it look like I was inside the sreen
writing on it with a marker. So I took pictures of myself hodling
up a pen (not behind glass at all, just a clean photo.)

Then I made duplicate layers on photoshop and blurred each layer a
little more. about 3-4 layers. So at this point I have the layers
aranged with the most blured in the back. Now I go and take all
layers but the back and create a mask and inverted it so its like
the layer was erased but you can undo it. I think took a wacom
tablet so I could (just pressure sensitive pen) and drew back in
the less blurred layers for forground objects to simulate the sence
of depth behind glass as it diffuses with distance. I then used
that same pressure sensitive pen to draw on the 'glass'. I know it
should be backwards but I did not want to give people headaches.



Here is the photo in place on web site (for the time being)
http://www.urbanartcommission.org/projects.html

This is a really basic subject and I was very happy with the
results and the ease with which I created it however I plan on
doing some more advanced ones in the future. Of coruse why don't I
just get a pice of glass and shoot behind it? ok I don't have an
answer for that; but I have this idea of taking a series of photos
of an object with a lot of depth changes and then shooting
throughout the full spectrum of focus. Then I want to setup on a
site a photo which allows you to drag the cursor to an area that
brings it into focus. This would not require any of the work I have
done above, would basically be like a movie but user controled; but
it is what gave me the idea for the photo above. Would probably
make a QTVR object or something similar; could also provide an
optional focus slider and display exif date if doing for educatinal
purposes.

--
David Goldwasser
http://www.inertia-llc.com
Click to expand...
--
John
http://www.pbase.com/johnrweb/
 
Hey, guys! Thanks for the help; I really am grateful to have this forum as a resource! I appreciate you willingness to answer my questions.

Shay, I did have one other question, about the digital warming filter. I'm thinking that you changed the white balance to a warmer tone? Or am I way off base? I'd like to be able to apply a digital warming filter to my images, but I don't know of such a thing with PSP7--although I am sure it can be done with PSP7, I just don't know how.

Thanks!

Robert
johnrweb said:
David Goldwasser said:
Ok, now I don't just mean using the distort filter. What I wanted
to do here was have some fun with a "web site under construction
graphic" I wanted to make it look like I was inside the sreen
writing on it with a marker. So I took pictures of myself hodling
up a pen (not behind glass at all, just a clean photo.)

Then I made duplicate layers on photoshop and blurred each layer a
little more. about 3-4 layers. So at this point I have the layers
aranged with the most blured in the back. Now I go and take all
layers but the back and create a mask and inverted it so its like
the layer was erased but you can undo it. I think took a wacom
tablet so I could (just pressure sensitive pen) and drew back in
the less blurred layers for forground objects to simulate the sence
of depth behind glass as it diffuses with distance. I then used
that same pressure sensitive pen to draw on the 'glass'. I know it
should be backwards but I did not want to give people headaches.



Here is the photo in place on web site (for the time being)
http://www.urbanartcommission.org/projects.html

This is a really basic subject and I was very happy with the
results and the ease with which I created it however I plan on
doing some more advanced ones in the future. Of coruse why don't I
just get a pice of glass and shoot behind it? ok I don't have an
answer for that; but I have this idea of taking a series of photos
of an object with a lot of depth changes and then shooting
throughout the full spectrum of focus. Then I want to setup on a
site a photo which allows you to drag the cursor to an area that
brings it into focus. This would not require any of the work I have
done above, would basically be like a movie but user controled; but
it is what gave me the idea for the photo above. Would probably
make a QTVR object or something similar; could also provide an
optional focus slider and display exif date if doing for educatinal
purposes.

--
David Goldwasser
http://www.inertia-llc.com
Click to expand...
--
John
http://www.pbase.com/johnrweb/
Click to expand...
--
Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
 
I just create a new layer on top of the image. Then change the layer blending to "color" and set the opacity to 10%, then fill the top layer with orange (RGB=255,102,0 or similar). Any editor with layers should be able to do it. You can adjust the opacity of the layer to change the amount of the filter change and you can erase portions of the layer where you don't want the image warmed up. Easy and effective.

--
Shay

My Sony F707 & F717 Gallery: http://www.shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp
My F717 Observations: http://www.shaystephens.com/f717.asp
 
David Goldwasser said:
Ok, now I don't just mean using the distort filter. What I wanted
to do here was have some fun with a "web site under construction
graphic" I wanted to make it look like I was inside the sreen
writing on it with a marker. So I took pictures of myself hodling
up a pen (not behind glass at all, just a clean photo.)

Then I made duplicate layers on photoshop and blurred each layer a
little more. about 3-4 layers. So at this point I have the layers
aranged with the most blured in the back. Now I go and take all
layers but the back and create a mask and inverted it so its like
the layer was erased but you can undo it. I think took a wacom
tablet so I could (just pressure sensitive pen) and drew back in
the less blurred layers for forground objects to simulate the sence
of depth behind glass as it diffuses with distance. I then used
that same pressure sensitive pen to draw on the 'glass'. I know it
should be backwards but I did not want to give people headaches.



Here is the photo in place on web site (for the time being)
http://www.urbanartcommission.org/projects.html

This is a really basic subject and I was very happy with the
results and the ease with which I created it however I plan on
doing some more advanced ones in the future. Of coruse why don't I
just get a pice of glass and shoot behind it? ok I don't have an
answer for that; but I have this idea of taking a series of photos
of an object with a lot of depth changes and then shooting
throughout the full spectrum of focus. Then I want to setup on a
site a photo which allows you to drag the cursor to an area that
brings it into focus. This would not require any of the work I have
done above, would basically be like a movie but user controled; but
it is what gave me the idea for the photo above. Would probably
make a QTVR object or something similar; could also provide an
optional focus slider and display exif date if doing for educatinal
purposes.

--
David Goldwasser
http://www.inertia-llc.com
Click to expand...
--
F-707: TCON-14B; Promaster 5750DX
Need MCON-35 and WCON-08B.
Gonna be a CON-man someday.
 
Robert Nix said:
I'd like to be able to apply a
digital warming filter to my images, but I don't know of such a
thing with PSP7--although I am sure it can be done with PSP7, I
just don't know how.
Click to expand...
In PSP7, go to the Effects menu > Enhance Photo > Automatic Color Balance. When the dialog appears, you'll see a slider with color temperatures. Move the slider to the left for warmer colors. Choose the amount you want in the box above the slider labeled Strength.

--
my gallery of so-so photos
http://www.pbase.com/kerrypierce/root
 
David,
Very nice job, great idea.
BTW, shouldn't it be written backward? :-)
David Goldwasser said:
Ok, now I don't just mean using the distort filter. What I wanted
to do here was have some fun with a "web site under construction
graphic" I wanted to make it look like I was inside the sreen
writing on it with a marker. So I took pictures of myself hodling
up a pen (not behind glass at all, just a clean photo.)

Then I made duplicate layers on photoshop and blurred each layer a
little more. about 3-4 layers. So at this point I have the layers
aranged with the most blured in the back. Now I go and take all
layers but the back and create a mask and inverted it so its like
the layer was erased but you can undo it. I think took a wacom
tablet so I could (just pressure sensitive pen) and drew back in
the less blurred layers for forground objects to simulate the sence
of depth behind glass as it diffuses with distance. I then used
that same pressure sensitive pen to draw on the 'glass'. I know it
should be backwards but I did not want to give people headaches.



Here is the photo in place on web site (for the time being)
http://www.urbanartcommission.org/projects.html

This is a really basic subject and I was very happy with the
results and the ease with which I created it however I plan on
doing some more advanced ones in the future. Of coruse why don't I
just get a pice of glass and shoot behind it? ok I don't have an
answer for that; but I have this idea of taking a series of photos
of an object with a lot of depth changes and then shooting
throughout the full spectrum of focus. Then I want to setup on a
site a photo which allows you to drag the cursor to an area that
brings it into focus. This would not require any of the work I have
done above, would basically be like a movie but user controled; but
it is what gave me the idea for the photo above. Would probably
make a QTVR object or something similar; could also provide an
optional focus slider and display exif date if doing for educatinal
purposes.

--
David Goldwasser
http://www.inertia-llc.com
Click to expand...
--
Lance
 
Very well done David, and thanks for explaining.
Maybe add the frost effect slightly to the text too???
David Goldwasser said:
Ok, now I don't just mean using the distort filter. What I wanted
to do here was have some fun with a "web site under construction
graphic" I wanted to make it look like I was inside the sreen
writing on it with a marker. So I took pictures of myself hodling
up a pen (not behind glass at all, just a clean photo.)

Then I made duplicate layers on photoshop and blurred each layer a
little more. about 3-4 layers. So at this point I have the layers
aranged with the most blured in the back. Now I go and take all
layers but the back and create a mask and inverted it so its like
the layer was erased but you can undo it. I think took a wacom
tablet so I could (just pressure sensitive pen) and drew back in
the less blurred layers for forground objects to simulate the sence
of depth behind glass as it diffuses with distance. I then used
that same pressure sensitive pen to draw on the 'glass'. I know it
should be backwards but I did not want to give people headaches.



Here is the photo in place on web site (for the time being)
http://www.urbanartcommission.org/projects.html

This is a really basic subject and I was very happy with the
results and the ease with which I created it however I plan on
doing some more advanced ones in the future. Of coruse why don't I
just get a pice of glass and shoot behind it? ok I don't have an
answer for that; but I have this idea of taking a series of photos
of an object with a lot of depth changes and then shooting
throughout the full spectrum of focus. Then I want to setup on a
site a photo which allows you to drag the cursor to an area that
brings it into focus. This would not require any of the work I have
done above, would basically be like a movie but user controled; but
it is what gave me the idea for the photo above. Would probably
make a QTVR object or something similar; could also provide an
optional focus slider and display exif date if doing for educatinal
purposes.

--
David Goldwasser
http://www.inertia-llc.com
Click to expand...
--
Yann
http://www.pbase.com/ykeesing
 
Robert Nix said:
Shay, or anyone who may know the answer--I noticed that you have a
picture on your website where you blurred the background while
keeping the subject sharp (the baby). How did you do that, if I
may ask? I'm using PSP7, and the only way I know to blur is to
apply it to the whole image; I don't know how to apply it
selectively.

The reason I say anyone, is I noticed somewhere on the forum that
someone did the same to a picture of theirs (I believe it was a
Christmas ornament, and I believe they said they were using PSP7).
If anyone can help, I'd be much appreciative!

Thanks,
Robert
--
Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!
Click to expand...
--
Being stupid is kinda nice--I get more help that way!!!

Thanks, Shay! Sorry I didn't get back with a thank you sooner--been busy! And thanks, everyone, for your help!

Robert
 
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