Megapixels or Sensor?

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I was wondering if it is better to have a camera with:

Higher megapixels, smaller sensor?

OR

Lower megapixels, bigger sensor?
 
Roughly, camera prices are higher for larger sensor size. Pick the largest sensor size that fits your budget. Then look at samples and reviews for image quality. That might or might not correlate with number of pixels.
 
I was wondering if it is better to have a camera with:

Higher megapixels, smaller sensor?
This results in extremely small sensels (pixels) that are less sensitive to light and need lots of light for exposure. There are small sensors with fewer pixels, but they are older models.
OR

Lower megapixels, bigger sensor?
This results in larger sensels (pixels) which are more sensitive to light giving the ability to capture an image in less light. There are large sensors with lots of pixels (as many as the small sensors), and they perform better at higher ISO's because the pixels are larger.
You decide which is better to have.
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People are obsessed with megapixels. Unless you print your pictures on a 10 * 10 meters canvas, you will not notice the difference between a 12 and 20 megapixel camera.
 
This results in larger sensels (pixels) which are more sensitive to light giving the ability to capture an image in less light. There are large sensors with lots of pixels (as many as the small sensors), and they perform better at higher ISO's because the pixels are larger.
A fifty dollar bill is worth more than a five dollar bill, therefore the same sum of money converted to another currency as fifty dollar bills, is automatically worth more, than if it had been converted as five dollar bills - is that your logic? It's certainly true that ten fifties are worth more than ten fives - but that's a different matter. What one needs to compare, when working out the value of a bill, is how much do I get for one fifty dollar bill, as compared to how much do I get, for ten five dollar bills - IOW, keeping the notional total amount artificially the same for purposes of comparison.

In sensors, the "notional amount" is the effective area of the sensor. This varies for different cameras, just as real amounts of money vary. In some circumstances or respects a $50 bill is more desirable to the foreign money-changer than the $5 bill - or less - and so fetches a higher street price - or a lower one - per dollar . So there are two things to consider: how many dollars face value, and made up of what cash bills.

The actuality, AFAICT, is that small sensored cameras typically use smaller pixels that are more physically efficient (across a given area) than the larger pixels typically used in large sensored cameras are (across the same area).

But going back to the money analogy: say I am bidding for an item in some exotic marketplace, using my $5 bills (which I get a relatively good exchange rate for, per dollar). Some other person comes along with a big sheaf of $50 bills (which he gets a relatively poor exchange rate for, per dollar) - but the sheer quantity of dollars he has, will still outbid my slender wallet.

RP
 
I was wondering if it is better to have a camera with:

Higher megapixels, smaller sensor?

OR

Lower megapixels, bigger sensor?
It is impossible to answer this question without knowing what types of photos are to be taken, under what lighting conditions. It is also necessary to know to what purpose the results will be put.

For example, will the subject be static or moving? Will it be indoors under low lighting, or outdoors in good daylight?

Will the results be used for illustrations on a website, or be used for large prints?

And so on.

Without this type of information all answers are pure speculation, and while containing some grains of truth, may in fact be misleading.

Regards,
Peter
 
In principle the larger sensor with fewer pixels is better than smaller sensor with more pixels.
Sometimes the difference is quite small to matter in real life.

Why do you think the manufacturers like Canon have dropped the megapixels race and included in their flagship compact a larger sensor with fewer pixels. In the dSLR world we are still far from that threshold so the lens are the main issue here. 16 MP are extremely demanding on lens quality and not all lenses perform decently at these resolution. And Sony released a 24 MP sensor that puts into difficulty even their best lenses.

As 10 MP are more than enough for most users having much more than that is just an invitation for worse results unless the lens and shooting technique improve significantly.
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It depends on what you want to achieve. There are advantages and disadvantages to both set-ups. There are situations where both would be not the best.

In particular small sensors allow you to build a small camera with a large zoom range in a compact body. Large sensors can't be used to do that. For many purposes the small sensor with a good zoom in a compact body is a better choice in practical terms than a large sensor with a larger body and a larger lens covering less range. However small sensor cameras offer limited control of depth of field for compositional purposes,, something you might want.

Horses for courses.

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This results in larger sensels (pixels) which are more sensitive to light giving the ability to capture an image in less light. There are large sensors with lots of pixels (as many as the small sensors), and they perform better at higher ISO's because the pixels are larger.
A fifty dollar bill is worth more than a five dollar bill, therefore the same sum of money converted to another currency as fifty dollar bills, is automatically worth more, than if it had been converted as five dollar bills - is that your logic? It's certainly true that ten fifties are worth more than ten fives - but that's a different matter. What one needs to compare, when working out the value of a bill, is how much do I get for one fifty dollar bill, as compared to how much do I get, for ten five dollar bills - IOW, keeping the notional total amount artificially the same for purposes of comparison.
And this has what to do with pixel size?
In sensors, the "notional amount" is the effective area of the sensor. This varies for different cameras, just as real amounts of money vary. In some circumstances or respects a $50 bill is more desirable to the foreign money-changer than the $5 bill - or less - and so fetches a higher street price - or a lower one - per dollar . So there are two things to consider: how many dollars face value, and made up of what cash bills.
Ditto!
The actuality, AFAICT, is that small sensored cameras typically use smaller pixels that are more physically efficient (across a given area) than the larger pixels typically used in large sensored cameras are (across the same area).
"No" there are not "more" efficient.
But going back to the money analogy: say I am bidding for an item in some exotic marketplace, using my $5 bills (which I get a relatively good exchange rate for, per dollar). Some other person comes along with a big sheaf of $50 bills (which he gets a relatively poor exchange rate for, per dollar) - but the sheer quantity of dollars he has, will still outbid my slender wallet.

RP
If "you" have a problem with what I posted say so. Don't be ignorant with an analogy that doesn't make sense.
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If you can't follow along, consider photons = pennies - now, which is better one $50 or ten $5?

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a question about megapixels, sensor size and quality.
I agree with most everyone here by and large. Some things were missed entirely, though, but generally speaking, a larger sensor with larger pixels will allow for a better IQ. The larger photo wells allow better color depth and better dynamic range. So, you want the largest sensor you can afford with a conservative amount of megapixels.

Example: My Nikon D300 has a smaller APS-C crop sensor with 12 megapixels. My Nikon D700 has a much larger full frame sensor but also has 12 megapixels. Under the technology at the time of these two cameras release, the D700 full frame camera produces a much better RAW image file than the D300 does with considerably more headroom to work with.

On the other hand, the smaller D300's sensor allows me to concentrate more pixels on the subject. Why might this be an advantage? What if I'm shooting a bird with my 500 f/4 lens and that bird is still a bit too far away? With more pixels on that bird I can crop closer and blow the bird up better.

So, a higher megapixel small sensor can be advantagous in those conditions where I need to do severe cropping. I might rather the larger sensor, but absolutely have to use the smaller under this condition. That's why I own both and why I want a big boost in megapixels in the future. But, for beauty and quality, give me the largeer sensor with nice large pixels (photo-wells).

The point is that there are always compromises and for all the rules there are ones that must be broken. You have to know the use you're putting it to.

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Sensor size is, all other things being equal, better than megapixels.

However, there's a variable that's critical here that you're not getting into the equation: quality of the sensor technology. Recent sensor technology is very noticeably better than older sensor technology, to the extent that the most recent APS-C sensors are in the same league as the current, older design full-frame sensors. (But of course, when the next generation of full-frame sensors comes along it'll probably change everything again.)

Two things I would advice you:
  • Don't pay much attention to megapixels. All cameras today have more than enough pixels for nearly every photographer. (And contrary to what a lot of people will mistakenly tell you, more pixels doesn't mean worse images—newer sensors have both more pixels and better image quality.)
  • Don't overestimate the need for a larger sensor. We're almost at the point where nearly all interchangeable lens cameras have excellent sensors, even at the smaller sensor sizes like the Nikon One and Micro Four Thirds systems. Larger sensors are certainly even better for image quality, but don't underestimate the advantage of smaller cameras and lenses. I'd very much rather pack a Panasonic GH2 and four lenses for a vacation trip overseas than a Nikon D700 and equivalent lenses.
 
The 24MP Sony A65 with $60 (that's what it costs here, but less than $200 either way) kitlens already outresolves the 18MP 7D with the 15-85. Meaning that even the worst and cheapest lens sees some benefit. Obviously the better glass shows more benefit though.

The reason Canon went with "just" 18 MP in their new flagship FF camera seems to have more to do with data throughput.
 

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