You have a point and I agree.
Steve Throndson in the post above has removed the branch, looks much better.
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Paulo Matos
Leading Member
LOL! Of course not!
For Paulo Matos,
Just for fun - hope you don't mind.
I really enjoyed the image.
And I was also wandering what if I had increased DOF.
It looses some sense of depth, but...
Paulo Matos
Leading Member
Indeed, Barty (and Jean-Marie)!
That's why I took two pictures, and even then, I was undecided about which I liked more.
Great job from Steve.
If not for the branch, which do you prefer, with a deep or shallow DOF?
(because I will return there and take that branch out, if it didn't fell already, LOL)
mirrorrorrim
Well-known member
I think in many cases, the result of an inverted bell curve (many low votes and also many high votes) is that the image is a strong one but doesn't fit exactly with the challenge theme. Some will vote high for the image, other will vote it low because they feel it compromised the challenge theme. This seems to apply to many of the examples and comments in this thread.
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BartyLobethal
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Shallower DOF will help draw attention to the main object of interest, be it the wall or be it the house. A deep DOF can be used if you want to draw attention to the detail in both house and wall, but I think photos which have one main point of interest with lots of detail, and just the suggestion of other elements work better than photos which draw the eye everywhere but nowhere in particular. Therefore I think it would be better to choose either the wall OR the house as your main object of interest and select an aperture and focus point which best highlights your choice.
If you do try to get both wall and house in focus, given the amount of distance between the two you will need to use such a small aperture that diffraction could start to cause softening of the image - it depends on the particular lens, but tests on sites like DXo Mark and Photozone show lens sharpness starting to decline after f11 for most lenses. There is a way around this if you have the right software and a tripod. Select an aperture which will allow you to have all the wall in focus, then take two photos using the tripod in the same position 1) focus on the house, then 2) focus on the wall. Then using your software, lay the second image over the first and scrub away the blurry house to reveal the sharp one. This will create a surreal level of detail across the frame, but might not work for the reasons outlined in my first paragraph.
Also, I suspect that if you want to make the wall the (or a) focus of interest, then it may work better if it has some direct light on it. Conversely, if you want to draw attention to the house then it could work better if the house is well lit but the wall is in shadow - think of the house in brilliant sunshine with the shaded and slightly out of focus wall as a frame.
The best approach, of course, is to try as many combinations and compositions as time, conditions and your patience allow.
And yes, Steve did an excellent job.
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Paulo Matos
Leading Member
I really appreciated your comments.
I wish every photo I had submitted in challenges could be so well evaluated and criticized.
I wish every photo I had submitted in challenges could be so well evaluated and criticized.
Mike Ronesia
Senior Member
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=457067
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=509343
Here are a couple. The second one was disapointing because I like the shot so much.
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It's easier to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=509343
Here are a couple. The second one was disapointing because I like the shot so much.
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It's easier to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.
Its a very nice dramatic picture, and yes, it is a portrait - be it an unusual one.
The blue tube is quite distracting, being all bright and blue and leading straight outside the image. Thats a big compositional no - but it's not like you get to stage this exactly like you want I guess? Can be tweaked in photoshop though.
The facial mask has probably caused you some low votes.
In a portrait that is a bit of a problem - allthough here, it is of course a very essential part of it.
Having won the slug contest myself, I'm sorry you were disappointed with the outcome.
FWIW, I did like your entry, and didnt think I'd stand a chance against it. I gave it my highest vote together with a couple other ones.
Same as with the diver image, its unusual. Unusual is good, but doesnt get you high scores easily - very much in tune with the subject of this thread.
I find your underwater images remarkable for being clean, detailed and richly coloured - and envy you for getting to dive and making lovely underwater pictures as well.
Havent got a clue how hard underwater photography is - but I guess it is.
In contrast, all I had to do for my winning Slug, was bow down, point the camera (m43 too btw) and push the button...
Its not fair - but I see you had a couple winners yourself, so that's ok
fireplace33
Veteran Member
I think this one qualifies here.
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=467389
I wasn't too surprised, I like the effect produced by the conversion to B&W with the GIMP c2g tool it really bumps up the contrast and can make things look dramatic , but the result is not to everybody's liking, as shown clearly by the voting in this challenge.
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=467389
I wasn't too surprised, I like the effect produced by the conversion to B&W with the GIMP c2g tool it really bumps up the contrast and can make things look dramatic , but the result is not to everybody's liking, as shown clearly by the voting in this challenge.
Paulo Matos
Leading Member
I have a new one, this time more controversial:
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=535027
I strictly followed both challenge theme and rules, not only in the picture, but also in the description. Any comment would be much appreciated.
Steve Throndson
Senior Member
Paulo,
Your photo for 'Hard Sun' should have done better - in my opinion. I've no idea what that song was really about, but if I were to guess, I'd say it was about Mankind's relationship with Mother Earth, possibly with a warning message for us all - and I think your interpretation was along those lines. dianoda's #10 was my favorite in the challenge - it had a similar interpretation.
Why yours got low votes, I can't say. Perhaps voters were unaware of the song's 'meaning', and simply voted for the most vivid sunset. I gave your entry 3.5.
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Your photo for 'Hard Sun' should have done better - in my opinion. I've no idea what that song was really about, but if I were to guess, I'd say it was about Mankind's relationship with Mother Earth, possibly with a warning message for us all - and I think your interpretation was along those lines. dianoda's #10 was my favorite in the challenge - it had a similar interpretation.
Why yours got low votes, I can't say. Perhaps voters were unaware of the song's 'meaning', and simply voted for the most vivid sunset. I gave your entry 3.5.
. . . . Steve
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ConanFuji
Guest
My evergreen entry. I love to show it when the opportunity arises.
Mike Ronesia
Senior Member
I gave it a 3.5 which tied for my second highest score for this challenge from me. I did give my only 4 to the winner.
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Paulo Matos
Leading Member
Thank you Steve and Mike!
I'm glad with your comments, but still curious about the low scores, especially if they have been given by users who could provide me some guidance.
I'm glad with your comments, but still curious about the low scores, especially if they have been given by users who could provide me some guidance.
Paulo Matos
Leading Member
I agree with you, I also like the effect, but maybe would score the picture a little because it is a bit exaggerated.
Paulo Matos
Leading Member
It seems you got the votes you wished for.
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ConanFuji
Guest
I don't care about votes.
It seems you got the votes you wished for.
Paulo Matos
Leading Member
The yellow circle says just the opposite.
It seems you got the votes you wished for.
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ConanFuji
Guest
I was just following the original poster.
You're quite full of yourself.
You're quite full of yourself.
It seems you got the votes you wished for.
Paulo Matos
Leading Member
Maybe it is just a problem with my understanding of English language, but what you are saying doesn't make sense for me and I don't understand your dislike for my comments.
I was recognizing the impact of your photograph, which led to controversial votes. The discussion here is about votes and for people who care about them, not about people.
I was recognizing the impact of your photograph, which led to controversial votes. The discussion here is about votes and for people who care about them, not about people.
It seems you got the votes you wished for.
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