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I have a sneaking suspicion that this adaptor's release has been delayed intentionally. Why, I'm not certain. But given that a substantial component of the market (principally for the V1) has to be DSLR owners who would like the option of using F mount lenses on a compact body, it seems a very strange omission. I don't think I'm the only person who would like to see what snaps from 200 - 500mm lenses look like on this sensor - stability issues acknowledged.

I narrowly avoided impulse-buying a V1 yesterday. Assuming that this format isn't DOA, which it apparently isn't, despite initial howling, I think it's at least one sensor update, and probably two, before the system is capable of the sort of performance that most serious photographers had hoped for.

Roy
 
From what I'm hearing, it sounds like the FT1 as shown was a "run it up the flag pole and see who salutes" copy. I haven't seen any shots pop-up from this device yet, even from those with access to Nikon's toy chests.
 
I'm too waiting for the FT-1 (before Christmas?), especially to dock the 60 micro and the 18-200... the rest of my FX/DX Nikkors can live without missing the J1, I think.
DezM said:
Could be that they want to sell a few Nikon 1 lenses first.
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That's why I opt for the simplest kit of all (10-30mm.)... and I have to report that it's not a pro lens, but it is NOT a toy neither:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1058&message=39737068
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DezM said:
Could be that they want to sell a few Nikon 1 lenses first.
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I wouldn't have thought that this would be a conflict. I can't imagine that many people would be likely to buy a V1 body only (is that even available?) and use F mount lenses exclusively - whereas many people might hold off buying the camera until reports of its performance with F lenses emerge. The very least most people would buy is a prime, and more likely the kit zoom. That's judging other people by myself of course.

I understand that the adaptor will only accommodate G lenses. A real p1sser that I can't put manual lenses on it. How does this square with Nikon's assertion (as I understand) that any Nikon lens made "in the last 50 years" will mount?

I still think it's odd that this adaptor is delayed.
Roy
 
At least AF-S and AF-I lenses, G AND non-G will be compatible according to the nikon brochure.

AF and AF-D will not auto-focus (no motor in the FT1), and maybe the camera will not allow to shoot pictures with. Same for AI, AI-S, with less probability of compatibility as they have no CPU.
 
Vertigo_101 said:
At least AF-S and AF-I lenses, G AND non-G will be compatible according to the nikon brochure.

AF and AF-D will not auto-focus (no motor in the FT1), and maybe the camera will not allow to shoot pictures with. Same for AI, AI-S, with less probability of compatibility as they have no CPU.
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I didn't expect it to mount screw drive lenses however it would be nice if it could accommodate Ai/S primes.
Roy
 
Mechanically, all F-mount lenses will mount.

As there's no motor, it's evident that AF lenses will not autofocus, but the v1 could at least meter and allow to shoot, as a D40 does. There are many AF lenses that do not exist in AF-S but would be a joy to use on the v1, even with manual focussing.

Think 180/2.8, 200/4 micro, etc ...

Even AI lenses work on a D40. Manual focus, manual exposure, ok, so what ? For macro work, it's no problem. The v1 should allow the same. If Nikon has voluntarily blocked these functionnalities on a commercial basis, then it's a pity.

Wait and see ...
 
... the AF Nikkor 80~200mm f/2.8D 1 ring, mounted in a FT-1 it wiil be almost a 600mm f/2.8 J1 :), while ignoring its new resolution, the manual focus and have to go with a good tripod everywhere :(.
Hope they'd include the AF's motor in the FT-1.
Enjoy Nikon 1.
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I wouldn't hold your breath for a motor in the FT-1. I think we'll be lucky if they somehow allow non-AF-S/I lenses to still be usable at this point. We have to remember, this first outing is aimed at the P&S upgrade crowd and they still might be thinking like that. I suspect that Nikon doesn't want to deal with all of the people buying the cheapest Nikon lens they can find to slap onto this and then coming back whining about how the 50 1.8D doesn't focus for them. ;) Putting a motor into the FT-1 would probably be very tricky and a huge battery drain too.
 
Thanks Ole, interesting
  • there's a mechanical lever to control aperture, means that there is at least electro-mechanics inside
  • no AF motor
  • there's a switch detecting that the aperture ring is on fee for non-G lenses.
  • there's no AI coupling ring.
Strange that those official pictures present traces of use.
 
Probably they have only one build yet!?!
 
chimphappyhour said:
I wouldn't hold your breath for a motor in the FT-1. I think we'll be lucky if they somehow allow non-AF-S/I lenses to still be usable at this point. We have to remember, this first outing is aimed at the P&S upgrade crowd and they still might be thinking like that. I suspect that Nikon doesn't want to deal with all of the people buying the cheapest Nikon lens they can find to slap onto this and then coming back whining about how the 50 1.8D doesn't focus for them. ;) Putting a motor into the FT-1 would probably be very tricky and a huge battery drain too.
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I'm stubborn and still holding my breath. My reason is that there is a bulge on the left side of the adapter (as you face it) and a spot on the mount exactly where the screw drive would be. Why would this spot be there otherwise? Also there wouldn't be any more battery drain on this than on a D50,70,80,90,300,700,etc. as the V1 has a battery of the same size and capacity
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Vertigo_101 said:
Thanks Ole, interesting
  • there's a mechanical lever to control aperture, means that there is at least electro-mechanics inside
  • no AF motor
  • there's a switch detecting that the aperture ring is on fee for non-G lenses.
  • there's no AI coupling ring.
Strange that those official pictures present traces of use.
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Yes it's the first picture I've seen you really can see all these details.

The traces of use probably comes from the Nikon launch presentation, where one of the beautiful models (probably the ballet dancer) tried to mock the 10mm f2.8 into the FT1 :-)

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Perhaps someone who has a Vi can tell us if there is a menu that allows entry of information for non-CPU F lenses. This will help understand the capability of the FT1 adapter with non-CPU F mount lenses.
 
Unfortunately, there's little chance that such an advanced feature (not even available on a D40) would be available on the V1.

Note that the absence of this feature on a D40 does not prevent from shooting in manual mode with no metering.

to be confirmed by a V1 owner ...
 
You CAN shoot the V1 with no lens attached but full manual mode only (including a fixed ISO setting)

I could not engage the manual focus feature and therefore the viewfinder magnification was not available. Manual focusing without the viewfinder magnification or some other focusing aids will be challenging

As a conclusion, third party adapters can certainly be made available for various lenses but to allow stop-down metering or engaging the viewfinder magnification to aid manual focusing will require the adapter to be chipped or the camera fooled some other way to think there's a lens mounted.
 
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