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A series of shots using the C1 and C2 options today. Quite extremely bright conditions (which we don't often get!) with very high contrast:-

C1 = EXR, Auto 400ASA, Dynamic Range 1600, Medium Image Size
C2 = Shutter priority Auto 400ASA Dynamic Range 400, Large Image Size

+ A couple of panoramas.

http://x10.pikfu.net

Pete
 
A little lens flare in some of those shots. Looks like the X10 could use a hood, or try to shade it with your free hand.
 
Yes

Some were directly into the sun to test out the DR1600.. Some I did shade. But I wasn't being too careful, just seeing how far I could go.

What I did notice was that I could recover highlight detail in all but the most extreme conditions. Shadow detail was fine.

Pete T
 
On the first shots I've had the Dynamic thing set to Auto up to 400, didn't like (night shots).

Yesterday I tried a little more, like it in some shots, where they really worked (400 also)... how do you like it up there in 1600???
Did you compare with and w/o?
 
I've put a tag under each image now to say which is which (DR 400% or 1600%)

Pete
 
I enjoy occasionally incorporating flare and ghosting in my shots:







 
Niiice flares... I like'em too on my pics... just don't like when they show up uninvited :)
 
jeracravo said:
On the first shots I've had the Dynamic thing set to Auto up to 400, didn't like (night shots).

Yesterday I tried a little more, like it in some shots, where they really worked (400 also)... how do you like it up there in 1600???
Did you compare with and w/o?
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Bear in mind that DR200 and DR400 are meant for low contrast scenes, such as dusk, overcast and some night scenes.

DR800 and DR1600 are meant for bright, contrasty scenes which would normally have crushed blacks and blown highlights.

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Trevor G

http://www.computerwyse.com
 
Trevor G said:
Bear in mind that DR200 and DR400 are meant for low contrast scenes, such as dusk, overcast and some night scenes.
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Untrue. That is what DR100 is for. You only use DR > 100 if the subject has more contrast than the camera can capture at lower DR.

If you use Auto for DR, then the camera will select DR100 a high proportion of the time.

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john carson
 
John Carson said:
Trevor G said:
Bear in mind that DR200 and DR400 are meant for low contrast scenes, such as dusk, overcast and some night scenes.
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Untrue. That is what DR100 is for. You only use DR > 100 if the subject has more contrast than the camera can capture at lower DR.
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I love our little tussles. ;-)

Have you read your manual?

Which manual shall I copy the information from, 550, 600 or X10?

They're all basically the same, so I chose the X10 manual:





I'm sure I'll get something wrong one day, so you are welcome to correct me then, OK? ;-)

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Cheers

Trevor G

http://www.computerwyse.com
 
Trevor G said:
John Carson said:
Trevor G said:
Bear in mind that DR200 and DR400 are meant for low contrast scenes, such as dusk, overcast and some night scenes.
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Untrue. That is what DR100 is for. You only use DR > 100 if the subject has more contrast than the camera can capture at lower DR.
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I love our little tussles. ;-)

Have you read your manual?

Which manual shall I copy the information from, 550, 600 or X10?

They're all basically the same, so I chose the X10 manual:





I'm sure I'll get something wrong one day, so you are welcome to correct me then, OK? ;-)
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The manual is quite confused on this point — quite possibly as a result of a bad Japanese-English translation.

The point of the EXR DR settings above 100% is to decrease the contrast in the final image, not increase it.

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john carson
 
Trevor G said:
I'm sure I'll get something wrong one day, so you are welcome to correct me then, OK? ;-)
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Maybe I got this wrong, and 200 and 400 reduce highlights too. I gotta find me some RAW samples... ;-)

If you have the proof, John, let me have it, please!

EDIT: I prepared this post straight after my previous one and forgot to send it.

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Cheers

Trevor G

http://www.computerwyse.com
 
Trevor G said:
Maybe I got this wrong, and 200 and 400 reduce highlights too. I gotta find me some RAW samples...
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Trevor, I believe that description is a sliding scale. Meaning that both do both, just that one is a higher priority at 100, and the other is a higher priority at 400.

You may both be right.
 
Wonderfull pictures. There is actually even software to imitate the light effects (Knoll Light Factory, for example) but it is like with vanilla: the genuine thing is the best.
Brooks Lester said:
I enjoy occasionally incorporating flare and ghosting in my shots:







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Trevor G said:
John Carson said:
Trevor G said:
Bear in mind that DR200 and DR400 are meant for low contrast scenes, such as dusk, overcast and some night scenes.
Click to expand...
Untrue. That is what DR100 is for. You only use DR > 100 if the subject has more contrast than the camera can capture at lower DR.
Click to expand...
I love our little tussles. ;-)

Have you read your manual?

Which manual shall I copy the information from, 550, 600 or X10?

They're all basically the same, so I chose the X10 manual:





I'm sure I'll get something wrong one day, so you are welcome to correct me then, OK? ;-)

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Cheers

Trevor G

http://www.computerwyse.com
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OK !

It's what is written even if i have a bad English!
so use dr100 for low contrasty scene (because it increase contrast)

and DR200 and more for High contrasty scène, because it decrease contrast and keep detail in ighlight and shadows...
 
le_alain said:
It's what is written even if i have a bad English!
so use dr100 for low contrasty scene (because it increase contrast)

and DR200 and more for High contrasty scène, because it decrease contrast and keep detail in ighlight and shadows...
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DR100 doesn't increase contrast. DR100 involves no special dynamic range processing at all. That only happens at DR200 and above.

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john carson
 
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